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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 25% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 75% ★★★- Good game (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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On April 10 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 21:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 10 2014 21:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Paralyze 4-0s, Cure 0-4s
Mkay
Didn't see that coming Did you legitimately expect Cure to beat anyone in this group? :S Ofc. - Only playing TvP - Done well in SPL recently - Seemingly good TvP - Low- mid tier protoss group Figured he'd come first
BO1 is very different from BO3, only playing 1 MU doesn't always matter if the players have vastly different styles. Cure never struck me as a good TvP player either, just as a guy that got some lucky breaks in his last couple of games. Apart from Super I kind of agree on the mid tier toss part, but its not like Cure was any stronger then them either.
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seriously fuck all these long-ass games man. that took almost 5 minutes.
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On April 10 2014 21:18 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On April 10 2014 21:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 10 2014 21:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Paralyze 4-0s, Cure 0-4s
Mkay
Didn't see that coming Did you legitimately expect Cure to beat anyone in this group? :S Ofc. - Only playing TvP - Done well in SPL recently - Seemingly good TvP - Low- mid tier protoss group Figured he'd come first That's an interesting viewpoint. Personally I don't see how Super and YongHwa can be construed as low-tier Protosses, and ParalyzE has apparently just proven his worth on top of that. + Show Spoiler [Initial Aligulac prediction] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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YongHwa 63.78% 33.17% 30.62% 21.05% 15.17%
Super 62.55% 32.80% 29.74% 21.09% 16.37%
ParalyzE 48.72% 23.55% 25.17% 27.78% 23.50%
Cure 24.95% 10.48% 14.47% 30.08% 44.96% And for the record Cure's lifetime TvP winrate is 41.67%. 
lifetime winrate isnt such a good indicator for future performance though.
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On April 10 2014 21:14 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 21:12 Qwerty85 wrote:On April 10 2014 21:09 Destructicon wrote:On April 10 2014 21:08 EthanS wrote:On April 10 2014 21:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Also, not sure why he decided to go super eco-greed against Protoss... :S Especially on close spawns. Super eco greed isn't all that bad, but he really didn't take any precautions at all to be safe. Very late bunker on his part and it just ended up snowballing from there. Had he had at least the 1st bunker that whole sequence of events would have looked different. I think it was more a case of super greed with two helions. You must invest into a factory, you must spend 200 minerals on those helions and he even lost them. Fast third with additional rax to get more units out + more bunkers would probably be better. Not sure if he would survive or not but I think it was more about the combo of fast 3rd and helions that killed him. he just got destroyed in every game where he transitioned normally. i think the 3rd ninja cc was just an act of desperation and this will always look silly when its punished i think the idea behind the late bunker is that because he goes for early reactor hellions, protoss should be scared and stay in his base to defend against any more potential hellions that could come. when those 3 stalkers move out there might come 4 unexpected hellions into his base and he loses to that. ofcourse it is risky to rely on protoss being scared to move out but it was a risk he felt needed to win the game
Yeah, he was basically doing a terran equivalent of oracle into fast third base. But helions are not as good for keeping the opponent in your base as an unit like oracle is against terran. Maybe if he waited for 4 helions and got more probe kills it would work but with two helions that just got killed for 4 probes it was actually a terrible situation since protoss knows it is not really a real commitment and he can move out on the map.
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On April 10 2014 21:18 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On April 10 2014 21:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 10 2014 21:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Paralyze 4-0s, Cure 0-4s
Mkay
Didn't see that coming Did you legitimately expect Cure to beat anyone in this group? :S Ofc. - Only playing TvP - Done well in SPL recently - Seemingly good TvP - Low- mid tier protoss group Figured he'd come first That's an interesting viewpoint. Personally I don't see how Super and YongHwa can be construed as low-tier Protosses, and ParalyzE has apparently just proven his worth on top of that. + Show Spoiler [Initial Aligulac prediction] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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YongHwa 63.78% 33.17% 30.62% 21.05% 15.17%
Super 62.55% 32.80% 29.74% 21.09% 16.37%
ParalyzE 48.72% 23.55% 25.17% 27.78% 23.50%
Cure 24.95% 10.48% 14.47% 30.08% 44.96% And for the record Cure's lifetime TvP winrate is 41.67%.
I know. I was going off his recent game viewings rather than long term stats. I liked his play in the match up and figured the patch might change a few things in his favor. He destoyed Super roughly a week ago in the playoffs. Then he gets raped by him here tonight, go figure.
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this group has been hilariously tragic
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On April 10 2014 21:28 Shellshock wrote:
this group has been hilariously tragic
you aint kiddin
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 80% ★★★- Good game (1) 20% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
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(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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You mine dollars? Oh Wolf
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
I hope the WCS EU games can cleanse my eyes after these abominations of games
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On April 10 2014 21:32 Lorning wrote:
I hope the WCS EU games can cleanse my eyes after these abominations of games
Yeah I'm much more excited for the other regions today xD
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On April 10 2014 21:20 absinthfee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 21:18 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 10 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On April 10 2014 21:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 10 2014 21:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Paralyze 4-0s, Cure 0-4s
Mkay
Didn't see that coming Did you legitimately expect Cure to beat anyone in this group? :S Ofc. - Only playing TvP - Done well in SPL recently - Seemingly good TvP - Low- mid tier protoss group Figured he'd come first That's an interesting viewpoint. Personally I don't see how Super and YongHwa can be construed as low-tier Protosses, and ParalyzE has apparently just proven his worth on top of that. + Show Spoiler [Initial Aligulac prediction] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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YongHwa 63.78% 33.17% 30.62% 21.05% 15.17%
Super 62.55% 32.80% 29.74% 21.09% 16.37%
ParalyzE 48.72% 23.55% 25.17% 27.78% 23.50%
Cure 24.95% 10.48% 14.47% 30.08% 44.96% And for the record Cure's lifetime TvP winrate is 41.67%. lifetime winrate isnt such a good indicator for future performance though.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. JYP's PvT is still at 46% even though it's not as abysmal as it once was, and Jaedong's ZvP is still at 53% compared to his 62% ZvT and 74% ZvZ... And these are players that I'd rate higher than Cure, and certainly a lot higher in the latter's case.
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That blink in the middle of zealots was terrible.
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Uggg Yonghwa how are you blowing this...
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Well, at least the game has been sort of back and forth and exciting.
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Balls back in Yonghwa's court again, he better not fumble...
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so sad that one of these mediocre protoss is going to advance...
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EPT
