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Hello, I'm a PR representative from ND Gaming. We're aware of the issues that have been brought up in this post and are working to investigate and bring about speedy solutions to the problem.
Just to clarify, as mentioned in the past two tournament posts, the player Puzzle is not the Puzzle from Slayers and is just a former top 50 Korean GM. He has multiple alternate accounts that he uses and we apologize for not having the tournament admin in the 2nd invitational enforce the sole account rule.
As far as the participation of the former Korean players (Ace, SC, and Free), we were assured by our contact in Korea that they would join the tournament. However, since Golden has brought up a discrepancy, we have sent them a message and are checking to re-confirm their participation.
Finally, to answer Desrow and several other progamers in this post, we originally came up with a list of progamers that we would have liked in the tournament. However, since it is an invitational, it is up to the organization to ultimately decide who gets in or not. If the mentioned retired Korean progamers are indeed unavailable then we will probably replace them with both up & coming and established progamers from the NA scene.
Before criticizing the organization further, we assure you that we will try to provide you with the fastest responses before the tournament starts tomorrow morning. If you have any other questions feel free to PM to this account or reply in this thread.
Thank you
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Update on the event, 1 problem at a time...
Q. Why was Puzzle on Ghost's account at one time?
A. Puzzle and Ghost/Grid are best friends in real life, and sometimes share accounts. Puzzle showed up late to this event and had last logged in as Grid. I told him not to worry about it we had to start. In between matches, he switched back to Puzzle to make things clear. They are not however, the same person.
Q. Why did Grid use a fake person's picture?
A. As No Dice Gaming, we were unaware of this fact and did not know anything about it until brought up by Golden. After talking to Ghost on the subject, he said he was pressured into a picture fast but did not want to give his real picture because he wants to be anonymous, as he as a player doesn't care for prize money or going pro, he just enjoys the game. He apologizes for this and feeling bad and embarrassed has dropped out of the tournament and is considering a possible full retirement.
Q. Have the previous players in the invitationals been paid?
A. Yes they have all been payed the proper amounts. As will the players in this event. We are currently working on contacting the players who have won money in the past in our invitationals to Tweet this fact, and i will update their posts here as they do so. HyuN, Puzzle and Dragon etc have all been paid in full for their successes. If NDG were to fake money, i dont think it'd be very possible for us to continue hosting these events which is our plan, and has been our plan.
https://twitter.com/SC2Dragon1
Jeon YongSoo @SC2Dragon1 51m
@NODICEGAMING i got it 2th prize
The other players we are still trying to gain contact of and will link when we have reached and gotten further confirms.
Q. Why are all of these Korean's being added and then dropping?
A. Our Korean contacts were in charge of organizing the Korean players for participating in the event. The original list NDGame got of players we thought were all confirmed players, but it was a mis-translation. The players they had listed were players they were going to attempt to get, not players who have confirmed. I being the fool, had misunderstood their message and posted them as participating players.
The final player list is updated now and the event should be going on at the appropriate time and day. Any further questions on the matter, feel free to PM me. I understand all the confusion and what not about NDGame and this event right now, and im sincerely sorry. We tried organizing a large scale event in too little time. We plan on continuing these events and we plan on working on them to continue to improve our production and organization. This paints an improper picture of NDG, and we seek to make that up over the course of the event by putting on an amazing show and being able to run the future events better and a lot smoother than this was. Thanks everyone for your understanding <3 Much appreciated. Please PM with further questions and I will get back to you ASAP!
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Good on you guys for being so clear with your methods and directly addressing people's concerns.
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OK, Thank you for the update
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Can anyone, affiliated with NDG or not, confirm whether or not this fake Puzzle (Grid) ever participated in any tournaments under the ID "Gun" or "kok7171"?
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On April 03 2014 11:34 MediKing wrote:
Update on the event, 1 problem at a time...
Q. Why was Puzzle on Ghost's account at one time?
A. Puzzle and Ghost/Grid are best friends in real life, and sometimes share accounts. Puzzle showed up late to this event and had last logged in as Grid. I told him not to worry about it we had to start. In between matches, he switched back to Puzzle to make things clear. They are not however, the same person.
If puzzle and Ghost/Grid isn't same person, why Ghost played tournament on puzzle's account? that was same hotkey, (don't say they using same hotkey by friendship...) and i researched Ghost breaks game due to military 2012 jan to 2013 august. but why puzzle isn't play tournaments around this time? and Ghost's "last" match in tournament is Mar 03 2014 in SYF Gaming Pathfinder Team League and puzzle's "first" participation tournament is Mar 06 2014 in go4sc2 Cup Europe #350. (searched by aligulac). why they aren't play tournament at same time even they are best friends? and why puzzle play tournament suddenly after Ghost gone? you guys should be say truly. or you Ghost still lying to you guys.
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On April 03 2014 11:34 MediKing wrote:
Q. Why are all of these Korean's being added and then dropping?
A. Our Korean contacts were in charge of organizing the Korean players for participating in the event. The original list NDGame got of players we thought were all confirmed players, but it was a mis-translation. The players they had listed were players they were going to attempt to get, not players who have confirmed. I being the fool, had misunderstood their message and posted them as participating players.
I wasn't going to follow up post but since Golden did I will as well.
This one doesn't make any sense. As Golden said, you just need to be honest here. You invited a bunch of players, and if the above was true, then you'd already have known you'd hit your player cap. The fact was, you continued invited players even after getting at the "cap" for the tournament. You gave players a set time limit to respond so they'd get a spot, but even then the tournament was never really "full". If I had to guess, you just contacted a bunch of people and told them they could play. But upon getting in contact with so many people you just decided to pick and choose players even after invites had been extended. I may be wrong here, but the above quote definitely does not seem accurate in the case we experienced.
+ Show Spoiler +The only reason I actually followed up was just to speak on behalf of our Korean players. It's really kind of "meh" for them when they get an invite to a tournament with such a big prize pool and then we have to explain to them that they're not playing anymore for no apparent reason. >.>...
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On April 03 2014 04:14 GreenMash wrote:Disappointing. I was hoping for the return of free 
On April 03 2014 04:21 SilentSC2 wrote:
So sC and free aren't playing
Source ?
EDIT : ok I guess that's
However, since Golden has brought up a discrepancy, we have sent them a message and are checking to re-confirm their participation.
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To organizers:
No bracket and results section ?
Liquipedia shows old results only. Nothing from April 2014 ..
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@Parcelleus The first games will start in about an hour. The tournament has not started yet, therefore there are no results up on Liquipedia.
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On April 03 2014 21:18 NoDiceTV wrote:
@Parcelleus The first games will start in about an hour. The tournament has not started yet, therefore there are no results up on Liquipedia.
No brackets though.
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STREAM UP BRINgON SYMBOL!!
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Stream is playing bly and qxc match
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So i had no clue about this and did a little investigating, we apologize and will fix the past tournament as it was a fake Seed apparently. I am sorry about this.
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On April 03 2014 22:29 MediKing wrote:So i had no clue about this and did a little investigating, we apologize and will fix the past tournament as it was a fake Seed apparently. I am sorry about this.
Last time just contact Promise.
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안상원 @SeedSC2
I play today @NODICEGAMING invitational. many good gamers participate this tournament! watch http://www.twitch.tv/ndtv
7:30 AM - 3 Apr 2014
https://twitter.com/seedsc2
I don't know to post the actual twitter post so copy paste will have to do XD but this is confirm of him playing today.
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On April 03 2014 23:39 MediKing wrote:안상원 @SeedSC2 I play today @NODICEGAMING invitational. many good gamers participate this tournament! watch http://www.twitch.tv/ndtv 7:30 AM - 3 Apr 2014 https://twitter.com/seedsc2I don't know to post the actual twitter post so copy paste will have to do XD but this is confirm of him playing today.
You click on the time that says when it was tweeted, like 20 min for example, then the tweet opens in an extra url and you just copy post that.
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On April 03 2014 23:39 MediKing wrote:안상원 @SeedSC2 I play today @NODICEGAMING invitational. many good gamers participate this tournament! watch http://www.twitch.tv/ndtv 7:30 AM - 3 Apr 2014 https://twitter.com/seedsc2I don't know to post the actual twitter post so copy paste will have to do XD but this is confirm of him playing today.
How did you accidently get a fake seed last week but the real one this week without realizing they weren't the same? :S
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Btw, how exactly does the seeding work? I have the feeling that every player in group A is better than every player in group B (and C except Petraeus). I know, this can result from people droping out and getting replaced, but it seems a bit weird to me.
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