(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good Game (Vote): ★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
God damn PartinG! Down 34 army supply and he blocks that monster attack like a boss, saves his main, all the while counter attacking Classic's natural. Unbelievable...
On March 12 2014 21:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Is there anybody still thinks PvP is boring?
Yep, the potential for good games doesn't ruin the stigma of 3+ years of horrible ones.
How do two or three year old games in entirely different circumstances have any bearing on the amazing PvP that we now have? It's time to let go of those ridiculous stigmas...
I have watched a lot of PvP this year. Tonight's were some of the only ones I have actually enjoyed watching. The stigma survives because good recommendable PvP games are still a rarity.
Can you name any other than tonight's that you can remember that you would recommend from this year or last? I can't. I can't think of a single PvP series from last year that stuck in my mind while I can think of at least 10 TvT series that were amazing from just 2013.
PvP might be better than it has been in the past but it has a LONG way to go before it's anywhere near as good as some of the other match ups.
IMO it's the best mirror right now
There's outliers everywhere, you're clearly one of them.
It's hard to dismiss such a wide majority that disagree.
PvP is the best mirror because it's like playing speed chess. In essence, I see it as a faster-paced TvT.
On March 12 2014 21:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Is there anybody still thinks PvP is boring?
Yep, the potential for good games doesn't ruin the stigma of 3+ years of horrible ones.
How do two or three year old games in entirely different circumstances have any bearing on the amazing PvP that we now have? It's time to let go of those ridiculous stigmas...
I have watched a lot of PvP this year. Tonight's were some of the only ones I have actually enjoyed watching. The stigma survives because good recommendable PvP games are still a rarity.
Can you name any other than tonight's that you can remember that you would recommend from this year or last? I can't. I can't think of a single PvP series from last year that stuck in my mind while I can think of at least 10 TvT series that were amazing from just 2013.
PvP might be better than it has been in the past but it has a LONG way to go before it's anywhere near as good as some of the other match ups.
IMO it's the best mirror right now
There's outliers everywhere, you're clearly one of them.
It's hard to dismiss such a wide majority that disagree.
PvP is the best mirror because it's like playing speed chess. In essence, I see it as a faster-paced TvT.
It's the MU with the most amount of openings/tech options, the most exciting early game macro, different harassment options and really tricky army movement/position. IMO it's probably the most punishing matchup, there are so many small mistakes that can just spiral out of control, so that makes it the best mirror to watch for me, by a pretty long shot.
On March 12 2014 21:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Is there anybody still thinks PvP is boring?
Yep, the potential for good games doesn't ruin the stigma of 3+ years of horrible ones.
How do two or three year old games in entirely different circumstances have any bearing on the amazing PvP that we now have? It's time to let go of those ridiculous stigmas...
I have watched a lot of PvP this year. Tonight's were some of the only ones I have actually enjoyed watching. The stigma survives because good recommendable PvP games are still a rarity.
Can you name any other than tonight's that you can remember that you would recommend from this year or last? I can't. I can't think of a single PvP series from last year that stuck in my mind while I can think of at least 10 TvT series that were amazing from just 2013.
PvP might be better than it has been in the past but it has a LONG way to go before it's anywhere near as good as some of the other match ups.
IMO it's the best mirror right now
There's outliers everywhere, you're clearly one of them.
It's hard to dismiss such a wide majority that disagree.
PvP is the best mirror because it's like playing speed chess. In essence, I see it as a faster-paced TvT.
Except that it is not. There aren't anything in PvP that can scare away the larger army from moving forward like the siege tanks and force them to outmaneuver the opponent instead. PvP could be a good MU if we can reduce the amount of "I have two more stakers than you do so I win" games, but I don't think it is very similar to TvT.
On March 12 2014 21:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Is there anybody still thinks PvP is boring?
Yep, the potential for good games doesn't ruin the stigma of 3+ years of horrible ones.
How do two or three year old games in entirely different circumstances have any bearing on the amazing PvP that we now have? It's time to let go of those ridiculous stigmas...
I have watched a lot of PvP this year. Tonight's were some of the only ones I have actually enjoyed watching. The stigma survives because good recommendable PvP games are still a rarity.
Can you name any other than tonight's that you can remember that you would recommend from this year or last? I can't. I can't think of a single PvP series from last year that stuck in my mind while I can think of at least 10 TvT series that were amazing from just 2013.
PvP might be better than it has been in the past but it has a LONG way to go before it's anywhere near as good as some of the other match ups.
IMO it's the best mirror right now
There's outliers everywhere, you're clearly one of them.
It's hard to dismiss such a wide majority that disagree.
PvP is the best mirror because it's like playing speed chess. In essence, I see it as a faster-paced TvT.
Except that it is not. There aren't anything in PvP that can scare away the larger army from moving forward like the siege tanks and force them to outmaneuver the opponent instead. PvP could be a good MU if we can reduce the amount of "I have two more stakers than you do so I win" games, but I don't think it is very similar to TvT.
The risks involved in early game cutting and getting those two extra stalkers out for that early fight are quite significant though. The mindgames and psychological stunts people pull in PvP is my favorite. TvT is a little similar, but old TvT was mostly a positioning/posturing battle. Still is, in fact.
But for PvP, expansion timings, getting greedy... it truly is the most punishing matchup, which makes it super tense. That's the excitement factor, and that's where I feel mental fortitude really kicks in.
Makes me wish all the more that Flash just played P.
On March 12 2014 21:19 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Is there anybody still thinks PvP is boring?
Yep, the potential for good games doesn't ruin the stigma of 3+ years of horrible ones.
How do two or three year old games in entirely different circumstances have any bearing on the amazing PvP that we now have? It's time to let go of those ridiculous stigmas...
I have watched a lot of PvP this year. Tonight's were some of the only ones I have actually enjoyed watching. The stigma survives because good recommendable PvP games are still a rarity.
Can you name any other than tonight's that you can remember that you would recommend from this year or last? I can't. I can't think of a single PvP series from last year that stuck in my mind while I can think of at least 10 TvT series that were amazing from just 2013.
PvP might be better than it has been in the past but it has a LONG way to go before it's anywhere near as good as some of the other match ups.
IMO it's the best mirror right now
There's outliers everywhere, you're clearly one of them.
It's hard to dismiss such a wide majority that disagree.
Everyone has different opinions, I agree... With that said, I'd hardly call thinking PvP is best mirror is "clearly an outlier". I wouldn't be susprised if many many people agreed, and wouldn't be shocked if that was the majority. You're probably just tired of seeing protoss everywhere, regardless of matchup lol Part of me is too
I think most people can agree that in WoL it was TvT -------->PvP-->ZvZ
In HotS it has changed a lot. TvT and PvP are pretty close overall. If you like Protoss you probably enjoy PvP more and if you like Terran you probably enjoy TvT more. ZvZ is still probably the worst in most people's eyes.
TvT was good but most people loved the tank vs tank wars while I didn't (not enough variety). Of course it was still a good mirror but I may not have been as much of a fan as most people here. Now I definitely enjoy more PvP.
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