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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 02 2014 19:39 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:37 stuchiu wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 opterown wrote:On March 02 2014 19:36 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:35 opterown wrote:
very low chance but if kassia can take this, creator should be able to beat the IM ace Creator PvZ did not look good. He is 5-1 in PvP but in PL, but his other Matchups are not impressive at all actually. eh he beat life 5-1 and DRG as ace it's something He'd need to beat the God Curious or I guess Byul. The thing is now IM could throw any player. They have so much players right now. They could go for ace snipers no ? Kind of risky in the non Allkill format but well... They have the numbers
Curious just took Stats head and smashed it into the doorway along the way to ro16. I think his ZvP is good right now.
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On March 02 2014 19:35 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:33 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote:On March 02 2014 19:31 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:26 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:26 Zealously wrote:On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote:
lol squirtle. Bronze micro. That's a nice hyperbole you got there that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level. Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM? To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin. That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
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On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Even fanta (coming from a fanta fan). He's a scrub  .
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On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
This. Same as how people still go on about old sportsmen who were epic.
Just because they aren't much good now doesn't mean you can't admire their past successes.
Plus Mvp is sexy.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Cause these guys make even men squeal and get wet like girls
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On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Innovation and Flash are also "Code B level."
Btw. no of these current top tier pros didn't even come close to Mvp's results so far.
So yeah, you can admire a legend even if he is not in his prime anymore, that doesn't make his results go away.
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On March 02 2014 19:40 jekku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ? Even fanta (coming from a fanta fan). He's a scrub .
Watch his two PL matches if you haven't. Fanta produced great games.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
This dude Mvp, i heard is playing with 400 apm permanently so i'm scared to see who is 3x faster.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 02 2014 19:40 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:35 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:33 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote:On March 02 2014 19:31 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:26 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:26 Zealously wrote:On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote:
lol squirtle. Bronze micro. That's a nice hyperbole you got there that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level. Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM? To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin. That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much. maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved. On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
I've played on all 3 servers. KR players are better all across the board, even in the lower leagues.
*Its not like an actual league of difference, but if you started two accounts on EU and KR, you'll hit a wall faster on KR.
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On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Boxer because he's the Creator of Korean E-sports
Nada because he is sexy
Oov because he is the best terran coach of all time.
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Thanks Wolf. I never thought I'd ever hear of Redwall ever again. My sister loved those books, and somehow, she didn't turn out to be a furry.
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On March 02 2014 19:42 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:40 jekku wrote:On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ? Even fanta (coming from a fanta fan). He's a scrub . Watch his two PL matches if you haven't. Fanta produced great games.
He did but its gotta last before i'm convinced. And some individual league performances.
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On March 02 2014 19:41 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ? Cause these guys make even men squeal and get wet like girls
That's where i was going 
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On March 02 2014 19:41 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Innovation and Flash are also "Code B level."
lol.
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On March 02 2014 19:42 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ? Boxer because he's the Creator of Korean E-sports Nada because he is sexy Oov because he is the best terran coach of all time.
So yeah, a similar reason then. Legends of their game
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On March 02 2014 19:40 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:35 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:33 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote:On March 02 2014 19:31 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:26 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:26 Zealously wrote:On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote:
lol squirtle. Bronze micro. That's a nice hyperbole you got there that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level. Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM? To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin. That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much. maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved. On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
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On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Mvp 100% winrate in sc2 proleague
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On March 02 2014 19:42 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:40 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now. Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ? Boxer because he's the Creator of Korean E-sports Nada because he is sexy Oov because he is the best terran coach of all time.
MVP because he was the best player in WOL. One a GSL with destroyed wrists
Nestea because he dominated WoL as Zerg for a long time and had a 100% winrate in ZvZ.
There's your answer And also. They are lovable.
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In my limited experience playing on the Korean server, I agree with the sentiment that there are very few true "Bronzies" (at least using the mentality defined by Gheed).
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On March 02 2014 19:43 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 19:40 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:35 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:33 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote:On March 02 2014 19:31 Yello wrote:On March 02 2014 19:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On March 02 2014 19:26 robson1 wrote:On March 02 2014 19:26 Zealously wrote:On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote:
lol squirtle. Bronze micro. That's a nice hyperbole you got there that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level. Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM? To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin. That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much. maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved. On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
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