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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 02 2014 10:49 GMT
#481
On March 02 2014 19:47 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 19:42 robson1 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:41 Qwerty85 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling


why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.


Innovation and Flash are also "Code B level."


lol.


I don't think Flash is better than Mvp tbh


Does Flash have a 100% winrate in Proleague? I didn't think so.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 10:50:39
March 02 2014 10:50 GMT
#482
kassia trapped in his main

e: or not, i rushed out the pun
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 02 2014 10:50 GMT
#483
On March 02 2014 19:48 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 19:46 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:43 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:40 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:33 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:31 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
[quote]

Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p


play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires

So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?


To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.


That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.


maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.

On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though

That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved

Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle


Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown

We live in the wrong country my friend :/


well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.

Were you from Yello?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 02 2014 10:50 GMT
#484
Kassia's misdirection needs better work. He could have completely surrounded Trap's main army with roaches right there.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 02 2014 10:51 GMT
#485
Kessia have no gaz for the muta transition

On March 02 2014 19:49 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 19:47 imrusty269 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:42 robson1 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:41 Qwerty85 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:39 robson1 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling


why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.


Innovation and Flash are also "Code B level."


lol.


I don't think Flash is better than Mvp tbh


Does Flash have a 100% winrate in Proleague? I didn't think so.


haha well played
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 02 2014 10:51 GMT
#486
Werid use of mutas.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 02 2014 10:51 GMT
#487
where's the msc lol
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
March 02 2014 10:51 GMT
#488
On March 02 2014 19:49 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 19:48 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:46 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:43 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:40 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:33 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:31 Yello wrote:
[quote]

play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires

So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?


To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.


That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.


maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.

On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though

That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved

Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle


Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown

We live in the wrong country my friend :/


well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.

ESL is holding some big dota tournament in one of your world cup stadiums in june i think, hopefully will be big


yeah I heard about that. I hope lots of people from all over Europe will fly in because German crowds are usually not that great. But it's in Frankfurt, it's easy to get there by plane from all over the world so it should be successful
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 02 2014 10:51 GMT
#489
awwww man kessia... why suicide lings on canons. You could have killed so much probes while the fight was on
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 02 2014 10:51 GMT
#490
hrmm that looked good for kassia for a bit but too much lost
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 10:53:00
March 02 2014 10:52 GMT
#491
On March 02 2014 19:50 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 19:48 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:46 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:43 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:40 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:33 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:31 Yello wrote:
[quote]

play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires

So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?


To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.


That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.


maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.

On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though

That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved

Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle


Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown

We live in the wrong country my friend :/


well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.

Were you from Yello?


Bremen. There is no SC2 community as far as I know off. We tried to get some barcraft rolling on facebook once but there were only like 15 people who actually saw that and were interested
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 02 2014 10:52 GMT
#492
If those mutas were there earlier that would have been a very different battle
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 02 2014 10:52 GMT
#493
why is trap adding stargates but not using his current one


oh my god worst fpl choice
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 02 2014 10:52 GMT
#494
On March 02 2014 19:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
If those mutas were there earlier that would have been a very different battle


He doesn't have enough gaz...

he's gonna need corrupter if this goes on longer
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 02 2014 10:53 GMT
#495
Flash may have been the best of BW, but Mvp is the king of SC2, long live the king!

Also, man, Trap feels like he has gotten a lot worst since WCS KR S3 of last year.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 10:54:11
March 02 2014 10:53 GMT
#496
On March 02 2014 19:53 Destructicon wrote:
Flash may have been the best of BW, but Mvp is the king of SC2, long live the king!

Also, man, Trap feels like he has gotten a lot worst since WCS KR S3 of last year.


Well apparently Flash is the king of Starcraft according to a certain commentator

Trap have 4 probbes in his geyser
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
March 02 2014 10:54 GMT
#497
great to see kassia playing well!
Dixer_ca^^ | Polt | Byun | MKP | DRG | White-Ra | Beastyqt | Maru | Creator
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 02 2014 10:54 GMT
#498
On March 02 2014 19:52 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 19:50 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:48 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:46 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:43 GumBa wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:40 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:33 Yello wrote:
On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote:
[quote]
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?


To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.


That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.


maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.

On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though

That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved

Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle


Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown

We live in the wrong country my friend :/


well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.

Were you from Yello?


Bremen. There is no SC2 community as far as I know off. We tried to get some barcraft rolling on facebook once but there were only like 15 people who actually saw that and were interested

Damn :/ yeah sc2 is so-so but esports in general is decent. But our crowds suuuuuuck
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 02 2014 10:54 GMT
#499
Trap traded all of his usefulness in team leagues for GSL rankings.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 02 2014 10:54 GMT
#500
On March 02 2014 19:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 19:53 Destructicon wrote:
Flash may have been the best of BW, but Mvp is the king of SC2, long live the king!

Also, man, Trap feels like he has gotten a lot worst since WCS KR S3 of last year.


Well apparently Flash is the king of Starcraft according to a certain commentator


Nonsense!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
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