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Stop whining. This lr is terrible.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 27 2014 00:46 GMT
#621
On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote:
It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling.

Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 27 2014 00:47 GMT
#622
On February 27 2014 09:44 Greendotz wrote:
Is it just me or are casters using a lot of HS terms now? Value, control, tempo, i don't recall these terms been used in SC2 in the past, maybe I'm just noticing it more because of HS.

Tempo and value has been used for as long as I can remember, control not so much
Fhiz
Profile Joined October 2013
361 Posts
February 27 2014 00:47 GMT
#623
Control, value and tempo all have meanings outside of hearthstone o-o
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 27 2014 00:47 GMT
#624
On February 27 2014 09:46 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote:
It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling.

Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying.


Korea must look West, towards TLO
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 27 2014 00:47 GMT
#625
Suppy not wanting to give JD advice makes me sad, he should totally help JD out. He plays the MU just wrong, and it's kind of incumbent on team mates to help each other put. Major is completely right. If he has better results but loses every ZvT, something is wrong.

I'd say ZvT is even zerg favoured right now.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 27 2014 00:47 GMT
#626
Control hasn't been used by itself but "Map control" is common. Maybe HS just helped them drop the "map"
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 27 2014 00:48 GMT
#627
On February 27 2014 09:46 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote:
It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling.

Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying.

Do you think it's a viable standard build or would it just get picked apart if every one was doing it?

Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
February 27 2014 00:48 GMT
#628
Well I guess Bomber just showed us that widow mines indeed suck ass, and that marines are pretty good :D
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
February 27 2014 00:48 GMT
#629
On February 27 2014 09:46 Yorkie wrote:
Wow such unbiased polling results! :D


To be fair, the games were extremely one-sided... Not much room to come back after a single lost engagement against Bomber.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 27 2014 00:48 GMT
#630
On February 27 2014 09:46 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote:
It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling.

Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying.

True, but you cannot seriously argue that JD played well those games. He made some pretty egregious errors and just odd builds that don't work.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 27 2014 00:49 GMT
#631
On February 27 2014 09:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:46 TheDwf wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote:
It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling.

Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying.


Korea must look West, towards TLO

A wise man who shoots at the bomb before it starts ticking.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 00:50:14
February 27 2014 00:49 GMT
#632
On February 27 2014 09:47 Squat wrote:
Suppy not wanting to give JD advice makes me sad, he should totally help JD out. He plays the MU just wrong, and it's kind of incumbent on team mates to help each other put. Major is completely right. If he has better results but loses every ZvT, something is wrong.

I'd say ZvT is even zerg favoured right now.


To be honest it wasn't best JD's matchup in 2013 as well.
He was even consulting with Scarlett a lot about matchup and how to play it.
And Bomber enjoys this kind of game when he can just fight mutalingbane all day.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 27 2014 00:50 GMT
#633
WCS America: Premier

(P)Arthur vs (T)Bomber
0-0


Map: Frost


Arthur spawns in the top left
Bomber spawns in the bottom right
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
February 27 2014 00:50 GMT
#634
On February 27 2014 09:47 Darkhorse wrote:
Control hasn't been used by itself but "Map control" is common. Maybe HS just helped them drop the "map"


What's the context? They use "control" all the time referring to unit control.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18670 Posts
February 27 2014 00:50 GMT
#635
Does Bomber drop a lot?
I almost feel like mutas are a waste of gas against Bomber, better build more banelings
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
February 27 2014 00:51 GMT
#636
On February 27 2014 09:46 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:44 Greendotz wrote:
Is it just me or are casters using a lot of HS terms now? Value, control, tempo, i don't recall these terms been used in SC2 in the past, maybe I'm just noticing it more because of HS.


I thought Value crossed over from dota 2. Tempo was something Artosis always used. Control is definitely HS though.


I guess, maybe I'm just noticing value a lot more now since that's pretty much the soundbite of HS, just find it a little weird when I hear Apollo say "he needs to extract some value out of these Hellions". I have no recollection of Artosis using tempo, but if you say so (I don't get the chance to watch much GSL).
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 27 2014 00:51 GMT
#637
On February 27 2014 09:47 Squat wrote:
Suppy not wanting to give JD advice makes me sad, he should totally help JD out. He plays the MU just wrong, and it's kind of incumbent on team mates to help each other put. Major is completely right. If he has better results but loses every ZvT, something is wrong.

I'd say ZvT is even zerg favoured right now.

His ZvT is still higher rated than his ZvP
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 27 2014 00:51 GMT
#638
On February 27 2014 09:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:47 Squat wrote:
Suppy not wanting to give JD advice makes me sad, he should totally help JD out. He plays the MU just wrong, and it's kind of incumbent on team mates to help each other put. Major is completely right. If he has better results but loses every ZvT, something is wrong.

I'd say ZvT is even zerg favoured right now.


To be honest it wasn't best JD's matchup in 2013 as well.
He was even consulting with Scarlett a lot about matchup and how to play it.
And Bomber enjoys this kind of game when he can just fight mutalingbane all day.

Which was probably a good idea. He should have kept working with her, then maybe both of them would be in the next round.

Sorry, still sour about Scarlett, so bummed. I feel like a dick now.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 27 2014 00:51 GMT
#639
On February 27 2014 09:50 sharkie wrote:
Does Bomber drop a lot?
I almost feel like mutas are a waste of gas against Bomber, better build more banelings


Not as much as Polt or Maru but if he needs he will drop forever.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 27 2014 00:51 GMT
#640
On February 27 2014 09:51 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:46 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:44 Greendotz wrote:
Is it just me or are casters using a lot of HS terms now? Value, control, tempo, i don't recall these terms been used in SC2 in the past, maybe I'm just noticing it more because of HS.


I thought Value crossed over from dota 2. Tempo was something Artosis always used. Control is definitely HS though.


I guess, maybe I'm just noticing value a lot more now since that's pretty much the soundbite of HS, just find it a little weird when I hear Apollo say "he needs to extract some value out of these Hellions". I have no recollection of Artosis using tempo, but if you say so (I don't get the chance to watch much GSL).

Tempo is a classic, its used even in chess.
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