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On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote: It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling. Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying.
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On February 27 2014 09:44 Greendotz wrote: Is it just me or are casters using a lot of HS terms now? Value, control, tempo, i don't recall these terms been used in SC2 in the past, maybe I'm just noticing it more because of HS. Tempo and value has been used for as long as I can remember, control not so much
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Control, value and tempo all have meanings outside of hearthstone o-o
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 27 2014 09:46 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote: It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling. Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying.
Korea must look West, towards TLO
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Suppy not wanting to give JD advice makes me sad, he should totally help JD out. He plays the MU just wrong, and it's kind of incumbent on team mates to help each other put. Major is completely right. If he has better results but loses every ZvT, something is wrong.
I'd say ZvT is even zerg favoured right now.
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United States23455 Posts
Control hasn't been used by itself but "Map control" is common. Maybe HS just helped them drop the "map"
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On February 27 2014 09:46 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote: It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling. Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying. Do you think it's a viable standard build or would it just get picked apart if every one was doing it?
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Well I guess Bomber just showed us that widow mines indeed suck ass, and that marines are pretty good :D
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On February 27 2014 09:46 Yorkie wrote: Wow such unbiased polling results! :D
To be fair, the games were extremely one-sided... Not much room to come back after a single lost engagement against Bomber.
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On February 27 2014 09:46 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote: It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling. Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying. True, but you cannot seriously argue that JD played well those games. He made some pretty egregious errors and just odd builds that don't work.
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On February 27 2014 09:47 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:46 TheDwf wrote:On February 27 2014 09:44 Squat wrote: It's been like this for months now. He just plays ZvT in a way that makes no sense, I have no other way to explain it. It is kind of baffling. Even Soulkey lost to this build from Bomber, almost twice. Just saying. Korea must look West, towards TLO A wise man who shoots at the bomb before it starts ticking.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 27 2014 09:47 Squat wrote: Suppy not wanting to give JD advice makes me sad, he should totally help JD out. He plays the MU just wrong, and it's kind of incumbent on team mates to help each other put. Major is completely right. If he has better results but loses every ZvT, something is wrong.
I'd say ZvT is even zerg favoured right now.
To be honest it wasn't best JD's matchup in 2013 as well. He was even consulting with Scarlett a lot about matchup and how to play it. And Bomber enjoys this kind of game when he can just fight mutalingbane all day.
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your Country52797 Posts
Arthur spawns in the top left Bomber spawns in the bottom right
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On February 27 2014 09:47 Darkhorse wrote: Control hasn't been used by itself but "Map control" is common. Maybe HS just helped them drop the "map"
What's the context? They use "control" all the time referring to unit control.
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Does Bomber drop a lot? I almost feel like mutas are a waste of gas against Bomber, better build more banelings
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On February 27 2014 09:46 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:44 Greendotz wrote: Is it just me or are casters using a lot of HS terms now? Value, control, tempo, i don't recall these terms been used in SC2 in the past, maybe I'm just noticing it more because of HS. I thought Value crossed over from dota 2. Tempo was something Artosis always used. Control is definitely HS though.
I guess, maybe I'm just noticing value a lot more now since that's pretty much the soundbite of HS, just find it a little weird when I hear Apollo say "he needs to extract some value out of these Hellions". I have no recollection of Artosis using tempo, but if you say so (I don't get the chance to watch much GSL).
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United States23455 Posts
On February 27 2014 09:47 Squat wrote: Suppy not wanting to give JD advice makes me sad, he should totally help JD out. He plays the MU just wrong, and it's kind of incumbent on team mates to help each other put. Major is completely right. If he has better results but loses every ZvT, something is wrong.
I'd say ZvT is even zerg favoured right now. His ZvT is still higher rated than his ZvP
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On February 27 2014 09:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:47 Squat wrote: Suppy not wanting to give JD advice makes me sad, he should totally help JD out. He plays the MU just wrong, and it's kind of incumbent on team mates to help each other put. Major is completely right. If he has better results but loses every ZvT, something is wrong.
I'd say ZvT is even zerg favoured right now. To be honest it wasn't best JD's matchup in 2013 as well. He was even consulting with Scarlett a lot about matchup and how to play it. And Bomber enjoys this kind of game when he can just fight mutalingbane all day. Which was probably a good idea. He should have kept working with her, then maybe both of them would be in the next round.
Sorry, still sour about Scarlett, so bummed. I feel like a dick now.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 27 2014 09:50 sharkie wrote: Does Bomber drop a lot? I almost feel like mutas are a waste of gas against Bomber, better build more banelings
Not as much as Polt or Maru but if he needs he will drop forever.
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On February 27 2014 09:51 Greendotz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:46 stuchiu wrote:On February 27 2014 09:44 Greendotz wrote: Is it just me or are casters using a lot of HS terms now? Value, control, tempo, i don't recall these terms been used in SC2 in the past, maybe I'm just noticing it more because of HS. I thought Value crossed over from dota 2. Tempo was something Artosis always used. Control is definitely HS though. I guess, maybe I'm just noticing value a lot more now since that's pretty much the soundbite of HS, just find it a little weird when I hear Apollo say "he needs to extract some value out of these Hellions". I have no recollection of Artosis using tempo, but if you say so (I don't get the chance to watch much GSL). Tempo is a classic, its used even in chess.
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