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Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
February 18 2014 18:27 GMT
#241
Well it's the best foreigner P against a foreigner T... I'd say Naniwa is favored by the factor 10.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 18 2014 18:28 GMT
#242
On February 19 2014 03:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:22 Soda-88 wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:18 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:15 Zheryn wrote:
MC builds are so weird. I'd rage so hard if I faced someone playing like him on the ladder.


MC was always abusive player. Whenever MC shines you can tell protoss has some strong early aggression.
Only reason he gets away with it without hate is because he has an awesome personality.
Most other protoss players would be hated for relying only on "sucker punch" builds.

You mean like HerO? Oh wait


HerO always had interesting and distinct way of playing PvZ.. I always respected him for that.

I missed his series against Polt so I dont know how he played (I will watch them through replay pack), but from what I've seen in his games against Innovation, I see how he could lose some fans after those games...

It is not like protoss is weak against terran late game so he is playing against a clock... I was hoping for a great macro games between 2 good players but he just ruined the experience for me..

Good think there were some other good TvPs at IEM to wash that bitter taste.

He went for some early aggression builds. Had Inno defended them you would have gotten those macro games. Not every player is going to go straight for the late game all the time.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 18 2014 18:30 GMT
#243
On February 19 2014 03:27 Caladan wrote:
Well it's the best foreigner P against a foreigner T... I'd say Naniwa is favored by the factor 10.

what's the formula for that kind of calculation
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
YoloSwaggins
Profile Joined November 2013
Austria236 Posts
February 18 2014 18:30 GMT
#244
On February 19 2014 03:28 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:22 Soda-88 wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:18 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:15 Zheryn wrote:
MC builds are so weird. I'd rage so hard if I faced someone playing like him on the ladder.


MC was always abusive player. Whenever MC shines you can tell protoss has some strong early aggression.
Only reason he gets away with it without hate is because he has an awesome personality.
Most other protoss players would be hated for relying only on "sucker punch" builds.

You mean like HerO? Oh wait


HerO always had interesting and distinct way of playing PvZ.. I always respected him for that.

I missed his series against Polt so I dont know how he played (I will watch them through replay pack), but from what I've seen in his games against Innovation, I see how he could lose some fans after those games...

It is not like protoss is weak against terran late game so he is playing against a clock... I was hoping for a great macro games between 2 good players but he just ruined the experience for me..

Good think there were some other good TvPs at IEM to wash that bitter taste.

He went for some early aggression builds. Had Inno defended them you would have gotten those macro games. Not every player is going to go straight for the late game all the time.


Hero had the exact same style as Sase for example, it wasn't really disctinctive. he used a lot of warp prisms and counterattacks. besides this he was and is just as cheesy as MC. but he is liquid so he gets praised.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 18 2014 18:30 GMT
#245
On February 19 2014 03:24 Waxangel wrote:
rabbit bunny storm!

[image loading]


omg the cutes

where is this from?
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 18 2014 18:30 GMT
#246
I wonder if Bunny can somehow make an upset here. That would be quite an achievement.
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
February 18 2014 18:31 GMT
#247
On February 19 2014 03:30 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:27 Caladan wrote:
Well it's the best foreigner P against a foreigner T... I'd say Naniwa is favored by the factor 10.

what's the formula for that kind of calculation


f*T = 10*f*P

intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 18 2014 18:31 GMT
#248
Naniwa to 2:0 or 3:0.

kiss kiss fall in love
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 18 2014 18:32 GMT
#249
On February 19 2014 03:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
I wonder if Bunny can somehow make an upset here. That would be quite an achievement.


i think he can cause an upset without winning, his opponent gets mad very easily
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
February 18 2014 18:32 GMT
#250
On February 19 2014 03:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
I wonder if Bunny can somehow make an upset here. That would be quite an achievement.


No way. Half-Dane got this one. So easy.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 18 2014 18:32 GMT
#251
On February 19 2014 03:32 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
I wonder if Bunny can somehow make an upset here. That would be quite an achievement.


i think he can cause an upset without winning, his opponent gets mad very easily


Is this played online or offline? Because an offensive handshake could maybe throw off Naniwa.
And if he gets on tilt, everything is possible....
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 18:33:53
February 18 2014 18:33 GMT
#252
On February 19 2014 03:30 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:27 Caladan wrote:
Well it's the best foreigner P against a foreigner T... I'd say Naniwa is favored by the factor 10.

what's the formula for that kind of calculation


FPP or foreign Protoss Power = (Metastrength/10) -1 (-1 comes from being born a foreigner)
FTP or foreign Terran Power = (Metastrength/10) - 2 (-2 comes from being born a foreigner and choosing Terran)

Where metastrength is winrate gathered from Korean games.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 18 2014 18:33 GMT
#253
Anyone LR? :D
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Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
February 18 2014 18:33 GMT
#254
On February 19 2014 03:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
I wonder if Bunny can somehow make an upset here. That would be quite an achievement.


I think he can. Naniwa isn't exactly a regular player.
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 18:34:59
February 18 2014 18:33 GMT
#255
Oh, why Blizzard, why...
Battle.net killing ESPORTS.

IP based sc2 matches would be so good...

It was the same yesterday.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 18 2014 18:33 GMT
#256
C'mon bliiz, I wanna catch some footy tonight
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Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
February 18 2014 18:33 GMT
#257
Just tuning in, that intro is amazing! Love the style and hype that it drives!
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#258
On February 19 2014 03:30 YoloSwaggins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:28 Yorkie wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:22 Soda-88 wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:18 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 19 2014 03:15 Zheryn wrote:
MC builds are so weird. I'd rage so hard if I faced someone playing like him on the ladder.


MC was always abusive player. Whenever MC shines you can tell protoss has some strong early aggression.
Only reason he gets away with it without hate is because he has an awesome personality.
Most other protoss players would be hated for relying only on "sucker punch" builds.

You mean like HerO? Oh wait


HerO always had interesting and distinct way of playing PvZ.. I always respected him for that.

I missed his series against Polt so I dont know how he played (I will watch them through replay pack), but from what I've seen in his games against Innovation, I see how he could lose some fans after those games...

It is not like protoss is weak against terran late game so he is playing against a clock... I was hoping for a great macro games between 2 good players but he just ruined the experience for me..

Good think there were some other good TvPs at IEM to wash that bitter taste.

He went for some early aggression builds. Had Inno defended them you would have gotten those macro games. Not every player is going to go straight for the late game all the time.


Hero had the exact same style as Sase for example, it wasn't really disctinctive. he used a lot of warp prisms and counterattacks. besides this he was and is just as cheesy as MC. but he is liquid so he gets praised.

MC gets praised lol. Aside from that neither player is cheesy. They can both play macro games as well as anyone. The fact that they are very good at early aggression, harassment, and micro shouldn't condemn them.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#259
On February 19 2014 03:33 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
I wonder if Bunny can somehow make an upset here. That would be quite an achievement.


I think he can. Naniwa isn't exactly a regular player.


yeah but when he fails, it is usually to zergs, right? even if he plays against "worst player in the world"...
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#260
On February 19 2014 03:32 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
I wonder if Bunny can somehow make an upset here. That would be quite an achievement.


i think he can cause an upset without winning, his opponent gets mad very easily

Haha, okay that was quite funny
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