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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 23:06:46
February 16 2014 23:06 GMT
#6881
On February 17 2014 08:04 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:02 looken wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 Nebuchad wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:57 looken wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:52 Shellshock wrote:
I think everyone should have to go 4 CC/rax/nexus before rax/pool/gate. only legit way to play

dude, you have more than 50k posts and this is how you have to make fun of me? quite pathetic. all i did was posting MY opinion. i didnt say it is OP, i didnt say hero is a bitch or anything. so whats your problem? if you cant appreciate different opinions maybe you shouldnt read these threads...-.-


Well you know, relativism is good and all, but just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's not ridiculous.

seeing all the posts in these LR after someone just lost to an all in or a cheese really makes me think its not so ridiculous to a lot of ppl on TL but whatever.


Ask any pro who ever had sucsess. He will tell you that cheesing is a viable and vital part of sucsess.

holy fucking shit, for the last time, i said it FEELS SO TO ME, i didnt say IT IS THAT WAY BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE THAT TO ME... cant you ppl read? its the third time now that i say this is my opinion and my problem and it might be a reason why so many ppl complain after said games...
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
February 16 2014 23:06 GMT
#6882
On February 17 2014 07:59 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:58 ImperialFist wrote:
this is why standard reaper expand is a bad build

What do you propose? Seeing as you obviously know better than the majority of the best Terrans in the world..


rofl

Just because a build is bad that does not mean that there is a better one available.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 16 2014 23:06 GMT
#6883
On February 17 2014 08:04 DaedricTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:01 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:56 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:52 Taipoka wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:50 looken wrote:
man, why cant he just play a straight up game? it just doesn't feel legit. every time a foreigner does an all in vs a korean i think "oh well, hes afraid of playing a real game against the korean". guess thats why im so upset with hero. it just doesnt feel legit to me.

Jesus.
And fly your buildings is legit right?

Yes flying your buildings is legit. Can we stop whining about that please?


But...it's not?

Dude you come in here and defend HerO against the waves of bashers after JD, which is admirable, but you shitpost just as hard in the other direction can't you see that?


So, why is being able to draw a game which you've lost, when no other race can do that, fair.

But something like 'cheese' is not?

It seems abusing something 'retarded' is fine as long as it's not Protoss.


The difference is that the lift "problem" is a problem every 5000 games.


Completely irrelevant.

Where is the consistency here? Every race has something retarded about it, yet people only complain when Protoss does it.

Just look at the replies to this thread after the game that was drawed, compared to...well any single game that Protoss has won this tournament (including the ones where they completely outplayed the opponents).


It's not irrelevant. If a retarted problem poisons nearly every game, people get very annoyed, if it happens very rarely, people are not that angry. That's completely justified by the way. And yes the whine against toss is ridiculous right now, it will pass.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
February 16 2014 23:06 GMT
#6884
On February 17 2014 08:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:01 Sokrates wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 Xinzoe wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:58 Kimb3r wrote:
This game is so horrificly unbalanced.. no other race would have had a chance of coming back like HerO did in G5 vs Jaedong.. it's so goddamn sad and no we'll see another Protoss winning a tournament.

User was temp banned for this post.


so being able to comeback through unrealistic micro is unbalanced???


Because there should be no way you could come back. Unreal micro or not.

Most of the time people complain you can't come back in sc2, that is kinda new to me :D


Comming back from allining shouldnt be a thing you should come back from. Rather getting back into a game when you barely held off one etc. But that is just my opinion on that topic, i dont like allins too much even though i used them quite often :D.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
February 16 2014 23:06 GMT
#6885
On February 17 2014 08:04 DaedricTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:01 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:56 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:52 Taipoka wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:50 looken wrote:
man, why cant he just play a straight up game? it just doesn't feel legit. every time a foreigner does an all in vs a korean i think "oh well, hes afraid of playing a real game against the korean". guess thats why im so upset with hero. it just doesnt feel legit to me.

Jesus.
And fly your buildings is legit right?

Yes flying your buildings is legit. Can we stop whining about that please?


But...it's not?

Dude you come in here and defend HerO against the waves of bashers after JD, which is admirable, but you shitpost just as hard in the other direction can't you see that?


So, why is being able to draw a game which you've lost, when no other race can do that, fair.

But something like 'cheese' is not?

It seems abusing something 'retarded' is fine as long as it's not Protoss.


The difference is that the lift "problem" is a problem every 5000 games.


Completely irrelevant.

Where is the consistency here? Every race has something retarded about it, yet people only complain when Protoss does it.

Just look at the replies to this thread after the game that was drawed, compared to...well any single game that Protoss has won this tournament (including the ones where they completely outplayed the opponents).


Can butthurted protoss fanboys stop being butthurted and accept that their race is the most hated?. Complained about flying buildings now? U guys are making things worse for ur race.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6886
Last time I was banned was on 18th of December 2012.. Lets see if I can survive without the ban if HerO wins this :D
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6887
On February 17 2014 08:05 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:01 stuchiu wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:00 Elite_ wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 soon.Cloak wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:54 EmilA wrote:
APOLLO YOUR VOICE IS SO GIRLY STOP IT OH MY GOD

User was warned for this post

How do people have 3000 posts, but still think they won't get a warn/ban for this?

I can't speak for the others, but I've only received 2 warnings on TL over more than a year of posting. ;o


I got one for genocide of mutton.

Was that the horrific dead sheep thing? You should have been extradited to Haag for that.


It was more brutal than that though, I kept a tally of how many sheep were spawned and killed off in that blizzcon thread and then culled all the rest after it was all said and done.

and then a bunch of people got pissed cause they couldnt report you
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 23:07:50
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6888
On February 17 2014 08:06 looken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:04 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:02 looken wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 Nebuchad wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:57 looken wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:52 Shellshock wrote:
I think everyone should have to go 4 CC/rax/nexus before rax/pool/gate. only legit way to play

dude, you have more than 50k posts and this is how you have to make fun of me? quite pathetic. all i did was posting MY opinion. i didnt say it is OP, i didnt say hero is a bitch or anything. so whats your problem? if you cant appreciate different opinions maybe you shouldnt read these threads...-.-


Well you know, relativism is good and all, but just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's not ridiculous.

seeing all the posts in these LR after someone just lost to an all in or a cheese really makes me think its not so ridiculous to a lot of ppl on TL but whatever.


Ask any pro who ever had sucsess. He will tell you that cheesing is a viable and vital part of sucsess.

holy fucking shit, for the last time, i said it FEELS SO TO ME, i didnt say IT IS THAT WAY BECAUSE I FEELS LIKE THAT TO ME... cant you ppl read? its the third time now that i say this is my opinion and my problem and it might be a reason why so many ppl complain after said games...


I can read. And your opinion is just wrong. It's like you say: Green looks pretty red to me, that's just my opinion, you can't point out that I'm wrong.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6889

[UoN]Sentinel was just temp banned for 2 days by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2009-11-23 23:39:52 and had 5164 posts.

Reason: Sniped. Brahwahahaa, suck it Zealously

lol Kadavar
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6890
On February 17 2014 08:05 Happygreek wrote:
I'm sorry I only just arrived to the viewing today. How is it that they decide on the maps for the finals? Polt/Hero get to veto some out of the map pool or is it randomly set?


I think there are only 7 maps, not sure :p
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6891
On February 17 2014 08:03 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:02 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:00 opterown wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:56 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:52 Taipoka wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:50 looken wrote:
man, why cant he just play a straight up game? it just doesn't feel legit. every time a foreigner does an all in vs a korean i think "oh well, hes afraid of playing a real game against the korean". guess thats why im so upset with hero. it just doesnt feel legit to me.

Jesus.
And fly your buildings is legit right?

Yes flying your buildings is legit. Can we stop whining about that please?


But...it's not?

Dude you come in here and defend HerO against the waves of bashers after JD, which is admirable, but you shitpost just as hard in the other direction can't you see that?


So, why is being able to draw a game which you've lost, when no other race can do that, fair.

But something like 'cheese' is not?

It seems abusing something 'retarded' is fine as long as it's not Protoss.

well each race can do something other races can't


Every race can cheese too.


Not against planetery nexus.


Nexus should be allowed to teleport, hatcheries be allowed to burrow. Problem solved
DaedricTV
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom94 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6892
On February 17 2014 08:05 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:04 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:01 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:56 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:52 Taipoka wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:50 looken wrote:
man, why cant he just play a straight up game? it just doesn't feel legit. every time a foreigner does an all in vs a korean i think "oh well, hes afraid of playing a real game against the korean". guess thats why im so upset with hero. it just doesnt feel legit to me.

Jesus.
And fly your buildings is legit right?

Yes flying your buildings is legit. Can we stop whining about that please?


But...it's not?

Dude you come in here and defend HerO against the waves of bashers after JD, which is admirable, but you shitpost just as hard in the other direction can't you see that?


So, why is being able to draw a game which you've lost, when no other race can do that, fair.

But something like 'cheese' is not?

It seems abusing something 'retarded' is fine as long as it's not Protoss.


The difference is that the lift "problem" is a problem every 5000 games.


Completely irrelevant.

Where is the consistency here? Every race has something retarded about it, yet people only complain when Protoss does it.

Just look at the replies to this thread after the game that was drawed, compared to...well any single game that Protoss has won this tournament (including the ones where they completely outplayed the opponents).

oh there's plenty of anti-terran whining about mules and shit and infestors when they were at their height to, it's hardly limited to protoss, just that protoss is the flavor right now


So what you're saying is, that people actually don't care at all about balance, they only care when it's not their race that has the map favour?

Seems a pretty poor community if that's the case.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6893
On February 17 2014 08:05 Happygreek wrote:
I'm sorry I only just arrived to the viewing today. How is it that they decide on the maps for the finals? Polt/Hero get to veto some out of the map pool or is it randomly set?


They only have 7 maps, no vetos. They only choose the order
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6894
On February 17 2014 08:04 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:03 Lorning wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:02 Zealously wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:01 soon.Cloak wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 Vindicare605 wrote:


haha. MC has been on point with this tournament.

Mods can stop of posting diretide, but they can't stop us quoting MC posting diretide :D


Try me

Did you actually ban anyone in the last hour? There were quite a lot of bans

No KadaverBB sniped everything I think
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1690


One of my favourite ban reasons:
Reason: Sniped. Brahwahahaa, suck it Zealously

by none other than KadaverBB of course. lol
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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6895
On February 17 2014 08:06 ImperialFist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:59 Jono7272 wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:58 ImperialFist wrote:
this is why standard reaper expand is a bad build

What do you propose? Seeing as you obviously know better than the majority of the best Terrans in the world..


rofl

Just because a build is bad that does not mean that there is a better one available.

Brilliant.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6896
On February 17 2014 08:04 DaedricTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:01 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:56 DaedricTV wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:53 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:52 Taipoka wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:50 looken wrote:
man, why cant he just play a straight up game? it just doesn't feel legit. every time a foreigner does an all in vs a korean i think "oh well, hes afraid of playing a real game against the korean". guess thats why im so upset with hero. it just doesnt feel legit to me.

Jesus.
And fly your buildings is legit right?

Yes flying your buildings is legit. Can we stop whining about that please?


But...it's not?

Dude you come in here and defend HerO against the waves of bashers after JD, which is admirable, but you shitpost just as hard in the other direction can't you see that?


So, why is being able to draw a game which you've lost, when no other race can do that, fair.

But something like 'cheese' is not?

It seems abusing something 'retarded' is fine as long as it's not Protoss.


The difference is that the lift "problem" is a problem every 5000 games.


Completely irrelevant.

Where is the consistency here? Every race has something retarded about it, yet people only complain when Protoss does it.

Just look at the replies to this thread after the game that was drawed, compared to...well any single game that Protoss has won this tournament (including the ones where they completely outplayed the opponents).


Protoss is the Winning Race right now, Go back a 6 Month and people pooped on Zerg and before that it was Terran. Welcome to the Winners Circle! :D
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Encdalf
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany66 Posts
February 16 2014 23:07 GMT
#6897
On February 17 2014 08:05 Happygreek wrote:
I'm sorry I only just arrived to the viewing today. How is it that they decide on the maps for the finals? Polt/Hero get to veto some out of the map pool or is it randomly set?

They flip a coin and then take turns on deciding which order they want to play the maps
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 16 2014 23:08 GMT
#6898
On February 17 2014 08:07 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:05 stuchiu wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:01 stuchiu wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:00 Elite_ wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:59 soon.Cloak wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:54 EmilA wrote:
APOLLO YOUR VOICE IS SO GIRLY STOP IT OH MY GOD

User was warned for this post

How do people have 3000 posts, but still think they won't get a warn/ban for this?

I can't speak for the others, but I've only received 2 warnings on TL over more than a year of posting. ;o


I got one for genocide of mutton.

Was that the horrific dead sheep thing? You should have been extradited to Haag for that.


It was more brutal than that though, I kept a tally of how many sheep were spawned and killed off in that blizzcon thread and then culled all the rest after it was all said and done.

and then a bunch of people got pissed cause they couldnt report you


But Zealousy was happy. I count that as a victory
Moderator
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 16 2014 23:08 GMT
#6899
I was temp banned once for getting baited into a silly argument by MoP
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
February 16 2014 23:08 GMT
#6900
On February 17 2014 08:07 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:05 Happygreek wrote:
I'm sorry I only just arrived to the viewing today. How is it that they decide on the maps for the finals? Polt/Hero get to veto some out of the map pool or is it randomly set?


They only have 7 maps, no vetos. They only choose the order


Ah, that clears that up. Thank you :D
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