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Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
February 16 2014 00:22 GMT
#121
On February 16 2014 09:20 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:17 Penguinator wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:14 mememolly wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:11 Penguinator wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:10 mememolly wrote:
that sucked, Scarlett clearly the superior player but just got too confident


How can you say that from that game?... I'm not disagreeing with you, but Kane was BEHIND in that game and managed to come back, which is much more difficult than being ahead and securing a victory.


he just camped built static D infestor, i dunno, nothing impressive, scarlett lost that game as opposed to kane winning it


And that makes her the superior player?


muta control and overall dominance does, one engagement after camping doesn't show to me that you're the superior player


He made correct decisions, she didn't.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 16 2014 00:24 GMT
#122
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 00:28:19
February 16 2014 00:27 GMT
#123
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 16 2014 00:27 GMT
#124
He has better ZvZ, that's all we know for now
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 00:31:51
February 16 2014 00:29 GMT
#125
On February 16 2014 09:27 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.


Coming from the biggest Scarlett fanboy, a lot of people overrate scarlett.


Wow that is super GG.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 16 2014 00:32 GMT
#126
On February 16 2014 09:27 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.

Sc2 is highly volatile, anyone can beat anyone in a Bo3 at the pro level, of course those players can and do beat her. Consistency is what matters in a game like this, what you do over a year, or two.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 16 2014 00:32 GMT
#127
Kane is closing this out from 99% to 100%.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 16 2014 00:33 GMT
#128
On February 16 2014 09:27 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.

Kane actually has a winning record against her
1-2
2-0
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 16 2014 00:33 GMT
#129
On February 16 2014 09:32 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:27 stuchiu wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.

Sc2 is highly volatile, anyone can beat anyone in a Bo3 at the pro level, of course those players can and do beat her. Consistency is what matters in a game like this, what you do over a year, or two.


Consistency is a rare quality to find in most players.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 00:35:05
February 16 2014 00:34 GMT
#130
On February 16 2014 09:32 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:27 stuchiu wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.

Sc2 is highly volatile, anyone can beat anyone in a Bo3 at the pro level, of course those players can and do beat her. Consistency is what matters in a game like this, what you do over a year, or two.


Sadly is seems like she doesnt have a ton of consistency when playing NA players. She plays better against better players.
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 00:35:49
February 16 2014 00:34 GMT
#131
So easy to say X is the better player, so easy to judge :/

Yes Kane won this but both played superb, Scarlett had tremendous mental pressure from the Hitman story (who appeared in the last damn minute) but still managed to win flawlessly vs him and put up a serious fight against Kane.

GG BOTH!
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
February 16 2014 00:34 GMT
#132
Clearly a showcase of the EU advantage.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
February 16 2014 00:36 GMT
#133
On February 16 2014 09:27 Squat wrote:
He has better ZvZ, that's all we know for now


zvz is incredibly volatile, i wouldn't go so far as to say i have better zvz. she 3-0'd life and i got 0-3'd by life. it's just an incredibly stupid matchup in my opinion
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 16 2014 00:37 GMT
#134
On February 16 2014 09:36 mYiKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:27 Squat wrote:
He has better ZvZ, that's all we know for now


zvz is incredibly volatile, i wouldn't go so far as to say i have better zvz. she 3-0'd life and i got 0-3'd by life. it's just an incredibly stupid matchup in my opinion


Well you seemed to be pretty dominant in those games so I wouldn't say it was luck or anything.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 16 2014 00:38 GMT
#135
While on break.

If
Jjakji
Polt
Rain
Patience
Classic
Hero

were all DBZ characters, who would they be?

Jaedong is Vegeta
Innovation is Metal Freiza
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 00:40:00
February 16 2014 00:39 GMT
#136
On February 16 2014 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:32 Squat wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:27 stuchiu wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.

Sc2 is highly volatile, anyone can beat anyone in a Bo3 at the pro level, of course those players can and do beat her. Consistency is what matters in a game like this, what you do over a year, or two.


Consistency is a rare quality to find in most players.

Well yes, that's why it's the metric we use. She'll drop out of this tournament after some uninspired play and some pretty big mistakes, and that will bring out the imbeciles who think this means she is no longer a good player and yaddah yaddah. This does not change the fact that no other NA player has done jack shit on the international scene against Koreans in all of HotS.

People in this game really overvalue a bad tournament performance. She lost in bad fashion to Kane today. How many big tournament results does Kane have? Consistency is the only reliable indicator of ability.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 00:40:42
February 16 2014 00:40 GMT
#137
On February 16 2014 09:38 stuchiu wrote:
While on break.

If
Jjakji
Polt
Rain
Patience
Classic
Hero

were all DBZ characters, who would they be?

Jaedong is Vegeta
Innovation is Metal Freiza

jjakji - gohan
polt - piccolo
rain - android 18
patience - yamcha
classic - bulma
hero - krillin
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 16 2014 00:42 GMT
#138
On February 16 2014 09:39 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:32 Squat wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:27 stuchiu wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.

Sc2 is highly volatile, anyone can beat anyone in a Bo3 at the pro level, of course those players can and do beat her. Consistency is what matters in a game like this, what you do over a year, or two.


Consistency is a rare quality to find in most players.

Well yes, that's why it's the metric we use. She'll drop out of this tournament after some uninspired play and some pretty big mistakes, and that will bring out the imbeciles who think this means she is no longer a good player and yaddah yaddah. This does not change the fact that no other NA player has done jack shit on the international scene against Koreans in all of HotS.

People in this game really overvalue a bad tournament performance. She lost in bad fashion to Kane today. How many big tournament results does Kane have? Consistency is the only reliable indicator of ability.


But does Scarlett really have consistency? After going 4-0 against major last MLG she loses 2-1 here and then loses to Kane. I would say scarlett's play actuallly varies more than most players. Sometimes she's the best foreigner, other times she loses to Hitman and Incontrol. I don't know, maybe I'm being overly critical and bitter. I just hate to see my favorite player lose like that :/
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 16 2014 00:44 GMT
#139
On February 16 2014 09:39 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:32 Squat wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:27 stuchiu wrote:
On February 16 2014 09:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So Kane confirmed for best NA zerg?


I think I said in the last thread that Major and Kane were both players who could beat Scarlett and were comparable. Happy to see them do it.

Sc2 is highly volatile, anyone can beat anyone in a Bo3 at the pro level, of course those players can and do beat her. Consistency is what matters in a game like this, what you do over a year, or two.


Consistency is a rare quality to find in most players.

Well yes, that's why it's the metric we use. She'll drop out of this tournament after some uninspired play and some pretty big mistakes, and that will bring out the imbeciles who think this means she is no longer a good player and yaddah yaddah. This does not change the fact that no other NA player has done jack shit on the international scene against Koreans in all of HotS.

People in this game really overvalue a bad tournament performance. She lost in bad fashion to Kane today. How many big tournament results does Kane have? Consistency is the only reliable indicator of ability.


Kind of an interesting dichotomy. Fans in the west value consistency more which is why we awarded Protoss of the year to Dear over sOs and Terran of the year to Taeja over Maru.

But in Korea they did the opposite giving it to sOs over Dear and Maru over Taeja.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 16 2014 00:46 GMT
#140
I mean going 141-37 (79.2%) in maps and 63-8 (88.7%) in BoX against NA seems like pretty good consistency especially in sc2.
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