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On February 05 2014 06:43 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 06:38 Aeromi wrote:
If ForGG had Dayshi's TvZ he would be a top player. In Asus ROG forGG showed brilliant TvZ superior to that of Dayshi. Personal opinion but I guess I am pretty fair about it. It used to be forGG's weak spot, but it didn't look like that in ASUS.
On February 05 2014 06:43 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 06:38 Aeromi wrote:
If ForGG had Dayshi's TvZ he would be a top player. Didnt ForGG beat JD at asus?
He played great games during ASUS ROG but I don't know if he really improved his TvZ. If his TvZ is equal to his TvP he can aim a top 4 in WCS EU.
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On February 05 2014 06:43 NovaMB wrote:Poll: Recommend Dayshi vs. hOpe Game 2?Excellent Game (2) 67% Good Game (1) 33% Meh Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dayshi vs. hOpe Game 2? (Vote): Excellent Game
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On February 05 2014 06:43 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 06:40 Niko_Thien wrote:On February 05 2014 06:38 NovaMB wrote:On February 05 2014 06:37 Niko_Thien wrote:On February 05 2014 06:31 NovaMB wrote:
Please for the better of your tournament Blizzard, either use GameHeart or atleast copy the features already. So much this! But I somehow doubt it for this season :/ Yeah, it annoys me to no end that they wont use something that improves your product by so much with so little effort. Hell its even availible as an extension mod, its literally only 2 clicks away. I tweeted to ESL_UK for the first playday of CL, they said sth like: "some things wont change" or some stuff like that :/ Is there any sensible reason why? Is this some asinine attempt to promote the incredibly shitty standard UI? Some absurd, misguided sense of pride? Just plain stupidity? I've been trying to put myself in the shoes of a multi-billion dollar company and justify going "nu uh!", but I'm coming up blank.
The only thing I can imagine that it isnt directly from Blizzard, therefore they are not using it. That would be stupid, but everything makes even less sense.
edit: found the original tweet:
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Glorious game.
It's a bit sad to see hope not doing much with his mutas (nearly undefended bases, no harass, losing sight of them sometimes)
The only really good move (apart from his army control) is when he took out the PF with banelings
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sometimes ppl dont want to admit they are wrong, and/or their ui sucks
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
so drunk diamond zerg is like sober gold
good to know
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On February 05 2014 06:41 Heartland wrote:
Did hope lose because he wasted all his banes on the PF and then didn't have the army to withstand the counterattack?
Short version: Kind of.
Long version: Yes, trading banes for SCVs and PFs in the later stages of the game is usually a bad idea unless solidly ahead. Overall Dayshi just had better positioning and micro, and Hope was not frugal enough with his mutas. Over-aggression with mutas is the best way to lose ZvT very quickly.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On February 05 2014 06:46 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 06:41 Heartland wrote:
Did hope lose because he wasted all his banes on the PF and then didn't have the army to withstand the counterattack? Short version: Kind of. Long version: Yes, trading banes for SCVs and PFs in the later stages of the game is usually a bad idea unless solidly ahead. Overall Dayshi just had better positioning and micro, and Hope was not frugal enough with his mutas. Over-aggression with mutas is the best way to lose ZvT very quickly.
short version covers it
In a close game never trade an army for a base
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On February 05 2014 06:46 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 06:41 Heartland wrote:
Did hope lose because he wasted all his banes on the PF and then didn't have the army to withstand the counterattack? Short version: Kind of. Long version: Yes, trading banes for SCVs and PFs in the later stages of the game is usually a bad idea unless solidly ahead. Overall Dayshi just had better positioning and micro, and Hope was not frugal enough with his mutas. Over-aggression with mutas is the best way to lose ZvT very quickly.
Yeah, it just seems like one of those times when it's pretty clear. If a Zerg bombs 20-30 banelings on a PF and a Terran counterattacks straight away then Zerg will probably have a bad time if micro, positioning and eco is otherwise relatively equal.
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Still i thought it was a pretty cool move to bomb the pf. hOpe knew that Dayshi didn't have much more than one mining base at this point, apart form the one he took out. 
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On February 05 2014 06:51 BaneRiders wrote:Still i thought it was a pretty cool move to bomb the pf. hOpe knew that Dayshi didn't have much more than one mining base at this point, apart form the one he took out.
The thing, usually the PF will be at the fourth, meaning terran will have 3 orbitals available. With triple mule, losing even 15+ SCVs isn't a very big deal, and you will typically be mined out or close to it in your main at this point, so you can float your main CC, or simply have extras which many terrans make. It looks awesome, but more often than not, you just traded hundreds of gas for a brief mining interruption.
Also, Dayshi is completely outplaying Hope here, his engagements and control are just superior.
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Pretty much expected. Dayshi's very calm and doesn't make any stupid decisions in this matchup! I like it.
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Poll: Recommend Dayshi vs. hOpe Game 3?Meh Game (2) 50% Good Game (2) 50% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dayshi vs. hOpe Game 3? (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Dayshi vs. hOpe Game 4?Meh Game (3) 60% Good Game (2) 40% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dayshi vs. hOpe Game 4? (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Dayshi vs. hOpe Game 5?Meh Game (4) 80% Good Game (1) 20% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dayshi vs. hOpe Game 5? (Vote): Excellent Game
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Solid game. He deserves it and now I'm sad for hOpe. 
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congratz to dayshi!!! To bad for hope, but there is no denying that the better player won.
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Do any European Ts have better TvZ than Dayshi or am I just fortunate with the games of his that I get to catch? He looks damn strong in the matchup
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Can't wait for Zanster's game tomorrow and SortOf on thursday.
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On February 05 2014 07:09 Wombat_NI wrote:
Do any European Ts have better TvZ than Dayshi or am I just fortunate with the games of his that I get to catch? He looks damn strong in the matchup
He has the better TvZ in Europe, maybe the best foreign TvZ.
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On February 05 2014 07:09 Wombat_NI wrote:
Do any European Ts have better TvZ than Dayshi or am I just fortunate with the games of his that I get to catch? He looks damn strong in the matchup
He has the best bio TvZ by miles, maybe the best outside Korea. Some terrans have better mech, but Dayshi hates playing mech so it's hardly surprising. He is one of few foreigners to have unlocked the ancient, secret art of multitasking.
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EPT
