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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 06:47:48
January 21 2014 06:34 GMT
#21
Happy 3-1 ABomB
Strelok 3-2 FireCake
HeroMarine 3-0 Starbuck
NaNiwa 3-1 stakimaN

I love how stakimaN is crushing NaNiwa in the Heart poll despite i wager 90%+ of voters never having heard of stakimaN prior to his qualifiers run. I added to it.

I don't think Strelok vs FireCake will be as bad as people fear; Strelok is certainly a macro player but he typically doesn't turtle as much as MaNa or Goody. I think Strelok could do very well this season with the recent mech buffs. Strelok is really good with mech. Also as we have seen in PL recently, Swarm Hosts aren't as good against Terran mech as against Protoss (unless you're Maru and keep trying to advance unsieged tanks into waves of locusts).
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
January 21 2014 06:36 GMT
#22
On January 21 2014 13:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Here's what WCS Predictor says about these matches and how it affects these players' chances for making the top 16 for season 1.
[image loading]

http://sc2.4ever.tv


Die4Ever, maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't losing bring your chances of making Premier League top 16 down to 0.00% since if you lose you can't get into Premier League at all...? How come some of the players are still showing a slightly greater than 0% chance to get there even if they lose?
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 21 2014 06:45 GMT
#23
Holy shit can't wait for tonight :D
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
zerotol
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium508 Posts
January 21 2014 08:33 GMT
#24
On January 21 2014 15:36 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 13:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Here's what WCS Predictor says about these matches and how it affects these players' chances for making the top 16 for season 1.
[image loading]

http://sc2.4ever.tv


Die4Ever, maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't losing bring your chances of making Premier League top 16 down to 0.00% since if you lose you can't get into Premier League at all...? How come some of the players are still showing a slightly greater than 0% chance to get there even if they lose?


because you can qualify by getting points in other tournaments?
Now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds
rhin0x
Profile Joined February 2013
Poland21 Posts
January 21 2014 08:44 GMT
#25
I love Starcraft and I know this is a stupid question but I have to ask. What is the whole WCS structure I mean the qualifiers and the whole challenger league?
Butcher them Cash, cut them up, beat them down, choke the f*****g life out of them.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 08:59:25
January 21 2014 08:55 GMT
#26
On January 21 2014 17:44 rhin0x wrote:
I love Starcraft and I know this is a stupid question but I have to ask. What is the whole WCS structure I mean the qualifiers and the whole challenger league?

Blizzard changed things around a bit for this year.Last year Challenger League structure was similar to Code A from the GSL.

This year, Challenger League is a single bo5, Winner goes to Premier League (Code S if you want), Loser falls to nothing(Code B).

Premier League is structured like Code S, 32 players, 2 group stages. Players that dont make top8 fall to Challenger and have to play a bo5 again. Players falling from Premier play the newly qualified players

Everyone that loses their Challenger match has to requalify. 24 spots per season are up for qualifiers.
rhin0x
Profile Joined February 2013
Poland21 Posts
January 21 2014 09:21 GMT
#27
On January 21 2014 17:55 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 17:44 rhin0x wrote:
I love Starcraft and I know this is a stupid question but I have to ask. What is the whole WCS structure I mean the qualifiers and the whole challenger league?

Blizzard changed things around a bit for this year.Last year Challenger League structure was similar to Code A from the GSL.

This year, Challenger League is a single bo5, Winner goes to Premier League (Code S if you want), Loser falls to nothing(Code B).

Premier League is structured like Code S, 32 players, 2 group stages. Players that dont make top8 fall to Challenger and have to play a bo5 again. Players falling from Premier play the newly qualified players

Everyone that loses their Challenger match has to requalify. 24 spots per season are up for qualifiers.



Thank you very much. I've found this http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/about, so to sum it up (acording to the article) first there's the qualifier to find the best 16 to challenge the 'worst' 16 from the last premiere league after which the winning 16 get(back) to the premiere? The numbers are a little different from those that you've mentioned?
Butcher them Cash, cut them up, beat them down, choke the f*****g life out of them.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 21 2014 09:24 GMT
#28
On January 21 2014 18:21 rhin0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 17:55 NovaMB wrote:
On January 21 2014 17:44 rhin0x wrote:
I love Starcraft and I know this is a stupid question but I have to ask. What is the whole WCS structure I mean the qualifiers and the whole challenger league?

Blizzard changed things around a bit for this year.Last year Challenger League structure was similar to Code A from the GSL.

This year, Challenger League is a single bo5, Winner goes to Premier League (Code S if you want), Loser falls to nothing(Code B).

Premier League is structured like Code S, 32 players, 2 group stages. Players that dont make top8 fall to Challenger and have to play a bo5 again. Players falling from Premier play the newly qualified players

Everyone that loses their Challenger match has to requalify. 24 spots per season are up for qualifiers.



Thank you very much. I've found this http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/about, so to sum it up (acording to the article) first there's the qualifier to find the best 16 to challenge the 'worst' 16 from the last premiere league after which the winning 16 get(back) to the premiere? The numbers are a little different from those that you've mentioned?

There are 48 total players in challenger so the winning 24 (6 days of 4 matches) go to premier to make it 32 in the premier league
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Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
January 21 2014 09:27 GMT
#29
On January 21 2014 17:33 zerotol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 15:36 Yakikorosu wrote:
On January 21 2014 13:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Here's what WCS Predictor says about these matches and how it affects these players' chances for making the top 16 for season 1.
[image loading]

http://sc2.4ever.tv


Die4Ever, maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't losing bring your chances of making Premier League top 16 down to 0.00% since if you lose you can't get into Premier League at all...? How come some of the players are still showing a slightly greater than 0% chance to get there even if they lose?


because you can qualify by getting points in other tournaments?


But it says chances for Season 1 to which there are no longer any season finals.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
January 21 2014 09:30 GMT
#30
On January 21 2014 18:27 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 17:33 zerotol wrote:
On January 21 2014 15:36 Yakikorosu wrote:
On January 21 2014 13:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Here's what WCS Predictor says about these matches and how it affects these players' chances for making the top 16 for season 1.
[image loading]

http://sc2.4ever.tv


Die4Ever, maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't losing bring your chances of making Premier League top 16 down to 0.00% since if you lose you can't get into Premier League at all...? How come some of the players are still showing a slightly greater than 0% chance to get there even if they lose?


because you can qualify by getting points in other tournaments?


But it says chances for Season 1 to which there are no longer any season finals.

it's top 16 in points for season 1
"Expert" mods4ever.com
rhin0x
Profile Joined February 2013
Poland21 Posts
January 21 2014 09:30 GMT
#31
On January 21 2014 18:24 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 18:21 rhin0x wrote:
On January 21 2014 17:55 NovaMB wrote:
On January 21 2014 17:44 rhin0x wrote:
I love Starcraft and I know this is a stupid question but I have to ask. What is the whole WCS structure I mean the qualifiers and the whole challenger league?

Blizzard changed things around a bit for this year.Last year Challenger League structure was similar to Code A from the GSL.

This year, Challenger League is a single bo5, Winner goes to Premier League (Code S if you want), Loser falls to nothing(Code B).

Premier League is structured like Code S, 32 players, 2 group stages. Players that dont make top8 fall to Challenger and have to play a bo5 again. Players falling from Premier play the newly qualified players

Everyone that loses their Challenger match has to requalify. 24 spots per season are up for qualifiers.



Thank you very much. I've found this http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/about, so to sum it up (acording to the article) first there's the qualifier to find the best 16 to challenge the 'worst' 16 from the last premiere league after which the winning 16 get(back) to the premiere? The numbers are a little different from those that you've mentioned?

There are 48 total players in challenger so the winning 24 (6 days of 4 matches) go to premier to make it 32 in the premier league


Ok, there's a mentioning of this further on the WCS page . Thanks again.
Butcher them Cash, cut them up, beat them down, choke the f*****g life out of them.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
January 21 2014 09:34 GMT
#32
On January 21 2014 18:30 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 18:27 Dinotramp wrote:
On January 21 2014 17:33 zerotol wrote:
On January 21 2014 15:36 Yakikorosu wrote:
On January 21 2014 13:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Here's what WCS Predictor says about these matches and how it affects these players' chances for making the top 16 for season 1.
[image loading]

http://sc2.4ever.tv


Die4Ever, maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't losing bring your chances of making Premier League top 16 down to 0.00% since if you lose you can't get into Premier League at all...? How come some of the players are still showing a slightly greater than 0% chance to get there even if they lose?


because you can qualify by getting points in other tournaments?


But it says chances for Season 1 to which there are no longer any season finals.

it's top 16 in points for season 1


Wait, I'm really confused now. What happens to the top 16 in points for Season 1?
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
January 21 2014 09:37 GMT
#33
On January 21 2014 18:34 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 18:30 Die4Ever wrote:
On January 21 2014 18:27 Dinotramp wrote:
On January 21 2014 17:33 zerotol wrote:
On January 21 2014 15:36 Yakikorosu wrote:
On January 21 2014 13:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Here's what WCS Predictor says about these matches and how it affects these players' chances for making the top 16 for season 1.
[image loading]

http://sc2.4ever.tv


Die4Ever, maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't losing bring your chances of making Premier League top 16 down to 0.00% since if you lose you can't get into Premier League at all...? How come some of the players are still showing a slightly greater than 0% chance to get there even if they lose?


because you can qualify by getting points in other tournaments?


But it says chances for Season 1 to which there are no longer any season finals.

it's top 16 in points for season 1


Wait, I'm really confused now. What happens to the top 16 in points for Season 1?

They're just in a good place to get top 16 for the end of the year and thus qualify for the global finals (Blizzcon). If I do probabilities for the full year it gets kinda weird cause it's so far in advance to look and anything can happen. Also there are no tournaments announced for season 2 and 3 besides the main WCS ones, so it'll be way off.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
January 21 2014 10:07 GMT
#34
On January 21 2014 18:37 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 18:34 Dinotramp wrote:
On January 21 2014 18:30 Die4Ever wrote:
On January 21 2014 18:27 Dinotramp wrote:
On January 21 2014 17:33 zerotol wrote:
On January 21 2014 15:36 Yakikorosu wrote:
On January 21 2014 13:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Here's what WCS Predictor says about these matches and how it affects these players' chances for making the top 16 for season 1.
[image loading]

http://sc2.4ever.tv


Die4Ever, maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't losing bring your chances of making Premier League top 16 down to 0.00% since if you lose you can't get into Premier League at all...? How come some of the players are still showing a slightly greater than 0% chance to get there even if they lose?


because you can qualify by getting points in other tournaments?


But it says chances for Season 1 to which there are no longer any season finals.

it's top 16 in points for season 1


Wait, I'm really confused now. What happens to the top 16 in points for Season 1?

They're just in a good place to get top 16 for the end of the year and thus qualify for the global finals (Blizzcon). If I do probabilities for the full year it gets kinda weird cause it's so far in advance to look and anything can happen. Also there are no tournaments announced for season 2 and 3 besides the main WCS ones, so it'll be way off.


That makes a lot of sense! Cheers for doing this!
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12700 Posts
January 21 2014 14:32 GMT
#35
hope happy goes far, such a great solid terran player
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3390 Posts
January 21 2014 15:54 GMT
#36
This new format results in pretty lopsided matches.
At least they look this way on paper.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
January 21 2014 15:55 GMT
#37
i have 3 hours set aside, i'm ready for firecake vs. mech
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10108 Posts
January 21 2014 17:02 GMT
#38
im just voting for all the Terrans and nani
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 21 2014 17:02 GMT
#39
Here we go!

Go Terrans and stakimaN!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 21 2014 17:03 GMT
#40
Gogo Happy, Strelok, Heromarine, and Naniwa.
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