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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 14 2014 22:22 GMT
#481
On January 15 2014 07:18 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 04:49 Zealously wrote:
On January 15 2014 04:16 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Sora isn't the CJ ace, herO is. Sora just seems inconsistent


If you say so

It hasn't even been a full round yet. CJ was a major disappointment in this round for sure, but given how good their players actually are (yes, fucking Hydra too), I don't see them not shaping up eventually. I'm of the opinion that many SC2 fans are too quick to judge - lose a few games and you're suddenly a bad player, no matter how good you were just weeks ago. Give it time, CJ'll shape up because there is no way they won't.

I actually agree with you for once. Kt has had worse starts in pl than cj this season and still been able to win it all.


For once? I'm hurt! I thought you'd like me more after I defended JD for you
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 14 2014 22:29 GMT
#482
On January 15 2014 07:18 Elroi wrote:

But they are morons or antifans...

Mhm, no they are not. While i agree that he has (probably) huge potential, his play is not all that impressive and his results show that too
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 14 2014 22:57 GMT
#483
On January 15 2014 07:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 07:18 Elroi wrote:

But they are morons or antifans...

Mhm, no they are not. While i agree that he has (probably) huge potential, his play is not all that impressive and his results show that too


We could probably list all the players that have been forced to put up with three or more groups of death in god damn GSL Ro16 (which means he advanced in the first place, not exactly unimpressive on its own) and it would be a very short list. Flash is not the Terran, but on the same note there aren't that many that are better than him. At least not as many as people would have it seem.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 14 2014 23:04 GMT
#484
On January 15 2014 07:57 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 07:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 15 2014 07:18 Elroi wrote:

But they are morons or antifans...

Mhm, no they are not. While i agree that he has (probably) huge potential, his play is not all that impressive and his results show that too


We could probably list all the players that have been forced to put up with three or more groups of death in god damn GSL Ro16 (which means he advanced in the first place, not exactly unimpressive on its own) and it would be a very short list. Flash is not the Terran, but on the same note there aren't that many that are better than him. At least not as many as people would have it seem.

Just check his winrates vs koreans in offline events in the last half year, he just makes around 50%
Even the games he won this proleague weren't all that impressive and he could have lost at least 2 if the opponents would not have been brain afk^^
I know that reads like i hate on him, i don't want to, but a lot of people still seem to think his BW success will carry over, it clearly won't
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 14 2014 23:10 GMT
#485
I don't know man Soulkey, Bogus, Jangbi, Flash, Jaedong, Baby, soO, sometimes Fantasy (and Hydra, ZerO, free depending on how high your expectations are) all turned out to be really fucking good - saying they all would make the cut in Code S isn't a long shot at all, and being Code S level pretty much means you're really good. I wouldn't stretch to BW skill = SC2 skill but it's undeniable that many people who were good in BW are good (or better) in SC2.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 23:14:11
January 14 2014 23:13 GMT
#486
On January 15 2014 08:10 Zealously wrote:
I don't know man Soulkey, Bogus, Jangbi, Flash, Jaedong, Baby, soO, sometimes Fantasy (and Hydra, ZerO, free depending on how high your expectations are) all turned out to be really fucking good - saying they all would make the cut in Code S isn't a long shot at all, and being Code S level pretty much means you're really good. I wouldn't stretch to BW skill = SC2 skill but it's undeniable that many people who were good in BW are good (or better) in SC2.

Nah i agree that Flash is pretty good, he wouldn't be in code s (well he has to qualify first this season..^^) otherwise, but i don't see him winning a tournament anytime soon.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
January 15 2014 05:33 GMT
#487
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
January 15 2014 12:26 GMT
#488
Ouch. Can't believe not one of Hydra, Sora, or Effort could pull out a win :|
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