But if CJ Entus gonna lose, they will have 0-3 and it's kinda sad. With SKT T1 and IM ahead especially, it might really be 2-5 or 3-4 and no playoffs in round 1.
On January 07 2014 02:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Terminator < Hydra Maru > herO Rogue < Trust sOs > Sora
And sOs will win ace match. I BELIEVE IN MY GUY <33
Tbh, all of this game basically is on Maru's shoulders. If he can beat herO, sOs will play for sure. And Rogue definitely have edge against Trust.
Out of curiousity, when did you last watch Trust play?
Guess, you caught me off-guard. Never, since the last Proleague. But i barely remember had he won at least once, Rogue has already won against Protoss last week and it will be first Trust's appearance in this SPL.
On January 07 2014 02:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Terminator < Hydra Maru > herO Rogue < Trust sOs > Sora
And sOs will win ace match. I BELIEVE IN MY GUY <33
Tbh, all of this game basically is on Maru's shoulders. If he can beat herO, sOs will play for sure. And Rogue definitely have edge against Trust.
Out of curiousity, when did you last watch Trust play?
Guess, you caught me off-guard. Never, since the last Proleague. But i barely remember had he won at least once, Rogue has already won against Protoss last week and it will be first Trust's appearance in this SPL.
I think Trust will surprise you. His PvZ is somewhere around 70% and I believe he's on a 14-map win streak in the match-up right now. He also went 1-2 against Life (whose ZvP is really good) in Code A, and although that doesn't say much in itself I don't think he's got any significant nerve issues. Rogue may still win don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's necessarily a clear-cut match.
On January 07 2014 02:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Terminator < Hydra Maru > herO Rogue < Trust sOs > Sora
And sOs will win ace match. I BELIEVE IN MY GUY <33
Tbh, all of this game basically is on Maru's shoulders. If he can beat herO, sOs will play for sure. And Rogue definitely have edge against Trust.
Out of curiousity, when did you last watch Trust play?
Guess, you caught me off-guard. Never, since the last Proleague. But i barely remember had he won at least once, Rogue has already won against Protoss last week and it will be first Trust's appearance in this SPL.
I think Trust will surprise you. His PvZ is somewhere around 70% and I believe he's on a 14-map win streak in the match-up right now. He also went 1-2 against Life (whose ZvP is really good) in Code A, and although that doesn't say much in itself I don't think he's got any significant nerve issues. Rogue may still win don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's necessarily a clear-cut match.
I know what is Life ZvP :D Guess then it will be amazing game. Thanks for clarifying.
Still doesn't change a lot tbh, if Maru wins, then all pressure in on sOs again. Hope he's gonna find his stride finally.
No CJ terrans : Seems like Bbyong , Skyhigh and Bunny are doing quite poorly and after seeing Effort's performance against Shine i guess it makes sence that he isn't fielded twice this week as well . I hope coach Park knows what he is doing , i am not gonna question his autority , but quite frankly i am really dissapointed in the performance of CJ so far . There are as good as team as any ... well maybe not SKT , but i hope they can take the win here .
On January 07 2014 04:45 raga4ka wrote: No CJ terrans : Seems like Bbyong , Skyhigh and Bunny are doing quite poorly and after seeing Effort's performance against Shine i guess it makes sence that he isn't fielded twice this week as well . I hope coach Park knows what he is doing , i am not gonna question his autority , but quite frankly i am really dissapointed in the performance of CJ so far . There are as good as team as any ... well maybe not SKT , but i hope they can take the win here .
Dude, 26 games at least ahead :D Something like 200~ points might be really enough to achieve top-4 after Round 4.
Basically, there are SKT, 5 teams, MVP and Prime right now.
On January 07 2014 04:45 raga4ka wrote: No CJ terrans : Seems like Bbyong , Skyhigh and Bunny are doing quite poorly and after seeing Effort's performance against Shine i guess it makes sence that he isn't fielded twice this week as well . I hope coach Park knows what he is doing , i am not gonna question his autority , but quite frankly i am really dissapointed in the performance of CJ so far . There are as good as team as any ... well maybe not SKT , but i hope they can take the win here .
I traded Bbyong for Dream, MVP is one of the few teams that can't run only Protoss and Zerg.
I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
Well, Maru plays TvP very differently from everyone else, so if they plan to beat him with a Protoss, they're gonna have to prepare well. Proleague makes for the perfect place to do that, but I still think Maru is looking exceptional in TvP at the moment, and I would probably favor him against any Protoss.
On January 07 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote: I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
On January 07 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote: I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
if it goes to ace match i think it will be Maru vs Sora that would be epic TvP! :D
He does, actually. To both herO (0-2) and Rain (0-2). Fairly recently, too. Playing in an offline setting is vastly different from online, sure, but herO certainly has the potential to beat him and if he does then so, I'd wager, does Sora. But yes, if it goes to an ace it should be great!
Is there no KT-Samsung thread? Or my eyes are just lying to me lol.
And why aren't JinAir landing Pigbaby? He wasn't bad in last CodeS, i guess. Probably will see him later with tricore being unchanged through whole season.
On January 07 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote: I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
zealosuy pls. like, i am impressed by sora to, but favoring him against the top two TvP player in the world is rather dubious. his showing against roro wasnt very impressive and if he does the mistakes he did against flash, than a player like maru is gonna murder him.
On January 07 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote: I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
zealosuy pls. like, i am impressed by sora to, but favoring him against the top two TvP player in the world is rather dubious. his showing against roro wasnt very impressive and if he does the mistakes he did against flash, than a player like maru is gonna murder him.
Whose PvT would you rate higher, herO's or Sora's?
On January 07 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote: I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
zealosuy pls. like, i am impressed by sora to, but favoring him against the top two TvP player in the world is rather dubious. his showing against roro wasnt very impressive and if he does the mistakes he did against flash, than a player like maru is gonna murder him.
Whose PvT would you rate higher, herO's or Sora's?
i know that herO recently won against maru 2:0. that doesnt change the fact that Marus TvP is just above the PvT from herO or Sora. and i would rate theri PvT equally high
On January 07 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote: I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
zealosuy pls. like, i am impressed by sora to, but favoring him against the top two TvP player in the world is rather dubious. his showing against roro wasnt very impressive and if he does the mistakes he did against flash, than a player like maru is gonna murder him.
Whose PvT would you rate higher, herO's or Sora's?
i know that herO recently won against maru 2:0. that doesnt change the fact that Marus TvP is just above the PvT from herO or Sora. and i would rate theri PvT equally high
herO also beat him 2-1 a few weeks before that for a grand total of 4-1. I don't know, Maru definitely has the advantage in name value and his micro (the marauder splits were beyond insane) is second to none, but honestly, comparing his TvP record over the last three months to that of Sora (whose record is the least impressive by level of opponents alone) or herO, his record isn't particularly impressive relative to the other two. Naturally, statistics don't tell the whole story, but personally I wouldn't rate Maru far above either.
On January 07 2014 06:20 Pirfiktshon wrote: The Only thing I don't like about proleague....... It starts at 5 am and I have to go to work by 6 am
I <3 proleague even though Terrans recently are doing so bad I still believe in you maru... Do Terran Justice my young friend
Out of 9 matches, not a single Protoss has won a non-mirror this week ^^
On January 07 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote: I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
zealosuy pls. like, i am impressed by sora to, but favoring him against the top two TvP player in the world is rather dubious. his showing against roro wasnt very impressive and if he does the mistakes he did against flash, than a player like maru is gonna murder him.
Whose PvT would you rate higher, herO's or Sora's?
i know that herO recently won against maru 2:0. that doesnt change the fact that Marus TvP is just above the PvT from herO or Sora. and i would rate theri PvT equally high
herO also beat him 2-1 a few weeks before that for a grand total of 4-1. I don't know, Maru definitely has the advantage in name value and his micro (the marauder splits were beyond insane) is second to none, but honestly, comparing his TvP record over the last three months to that of Sora (whose record is the least impressive by level of opponents alone) or herO, his record isn't particularly impressive relative to the other two. Naturally, statistics don't tell the whole story, but personally I wouldn't rate Maru far above either.
On January 07 2014 06:20 Pirfiktshon wrote: The Only thing I don't like about proleague....... It starts at 5 am and I have to go to work by 6 am
I <3 proleague even though Terrans recently are doing so bad I still believe in you maru... Do Terran Justice my young friend
Out of 9 matches, not a single Protoss has won a non-mirror this week ^^
They were both online though. Maru has a better win rate in TvP offline but it should still be pretty close. Could see it going either way for Maru vs herO
On January 07 2014 05:38 Zealously wrote: I don't see Sora losing to Maru to be honest. Yes I may be a little biased but he looks better in PvT than herO does most of the time, although the latter is probably the one who would be sent out for an ace match anyway.
I have a hard time favouring anyone over Maru. Not to say that he'll win every game but going into 99% of games I'll see Maru as a favourite. And not just because I remember him crushing my dreams of seeing Morrow in code S back in the day and thinking: wow this kid is good.
On January 07 2014 10:38 Shellshock wrote: I use 1 monitor and just make the game like a little more than half the screen and then enough room to type some stuff for LR and post polls
i'm really looking forward to maru vs. herO, it'd be his toughest opponent yet probably, although the ease with which he despatched parting in the pre-season is comforting
On January 07 2014 17:45 GreenMash wrote: sOs plz win D: Stop breaking my heart T___________T
He's killing my FPL as well. Why is he my captain
On January 07 2014 17:38 opterown wrote: i'm really looking forward to maru vs. herO, it'd be his toughest opponent yet probably, although the ease with which he despatched parting in the pre-season is comforting
On January 07 2014 10:35 Zealously wrote: Only thing I'm worried about is forgetting that I'm actually handling the thread once the games start
I can help if you want Zealously, i was going to post the thread last night but forgot as i was in a rage with FIFA xD then got to work this morning and you had them up so :D
On January 07 2014 17:38 opterown wrote: i'm really looking forward to maru vs. herO, it'd be his toughest opponent yet probably, although the ease with which he despatched parting in the pre-season is comforting
Maru vs good protosses is the shit!
Because you thought that he will be the cheesiest mastermind after Parting? As I did
Hmm, maruuuuuuuuuu vs herO... should be interesting
(P)Terminator < Star Station TE > (Z)Hydra (T)Maru < Frost LE > (P)herO (Z)Rogue (CliMax,Savage) < Yeonsu LE > (P)Trust (P)sOs < Sejong Research Station > (P)Sora
On January 07 2014 18:59 Fjodorov wrote: (P)Terminator < Star Station TE > (Z)Hydra (T)Maru < Frost LE > (P)herO (Z)Rogue (CliMax,Savage) < Yeonsu LE > (P)Trust (P)sOs < Sejong Research Station > (P)Sora
ace: maru vs sora
Don't you date tease us with a Maru vs Sora!!!!! God that would be best game EVER!!
Hey people. First things first, last night I beat Darklordolli on ladder. I am willing to sell his strats for the LR league for esports dollars.
Secondly, I am having a weird issue with my computer. My Internet started stuttering and just giving up. I remain logged into most messengers, but I am occasionally logged out of a few and then back in. I've tried using only the wireless, and then only the ground line but the issue remains. I've also tried both firefox and chrome. Sometimes when I reboot the computer the internet works fine. The rest of the apartment still has internet. Anyone has any ideas what might be the problem?
Last season, Coach Park led EGTL to a glorious 8th place finish. This round, under his stellar leadership, CJ is firmly Parked at the bottom of the table. Will the Coach Park effect continue? Let us find out in Jin Air vs CJ.
On January 07 2014 19:09 Pangpootata wrote: Last season, Coach Park led EGTL to a glorious 8th place finish. This round, under his stellar leadership, CJ is firmly Parked at the bottom of the table. Will the Coach Park effect continue? Let us find out in Jin Air vs CJ.
didnt he come in mid season for egtl and they actually improved after his arrival?
And dont forget that this proleague is very long season.
Can anyone link me to a VOD where Terminator played a good/smart game? I only remember being disappointed by his play. (I don't mean it as a bash, I'm curious)
On January 07 2014 19:09 Pangpootata wrote: Last season, Coach Park led EGTL to a glorious 8th place finish. This round, under his stellar leadership, CJ is firmly Parked at the bottom of the table. Will the Coach Park effect continue? Let us find out in Jin Air vs CJ.
On January 07 2014 19:09 Pangpootata wrote: Last season, Coach Park led EGTL to a glorious 8th place finish. This round, under his stellar leadership, CJ is firmly Parked at the bottom of the table. Will the Coach Park effect continue? Let us find out in Jin Air vs CJ.
Leading a team full of bad players to 8th place isn't really impressive. What he's doing so far this season is. I mean 2-6 \o/
On January 07 2014 19:09 Pangpootata wrote: Last season, Coach Park led EGTL to a glorious 8th place finish. This round, under his stellar leadership, CJ is firmly Parked at the bottom of the table. Will the Coach Park effect continue? Let us find out in Jin Air vs CJ.
Leading a team full of bad players to 8th place isn't really impressive. What he's doing so far this season is. I mean 2-6 \o/
Hydra played wayyyy to passive. He had such a strong economy and the ability to switch tech quickly to a different composition when he had the chance. For the longest time Terminator had a shitty ground army carried by a massive phoenix count.
On January 07 2014 19:34 SniXSniPe wrote: Hydra played wayyyy to passive. He had such a strong economy and the ability to switch tech quickly to a different composition when he had the chance. For the longest time Terminator had a shitty ground army carried by a massive phoenix count.
On January 07 2014 19:34 SniXSniPe wrote: Hydra played wayyyy to passive. He had such a strong economy and the ability to switch tech quickly to a different composition when he had the chance. For the longest time Terminator had a shitty ground army carried by a massive phoenix count.
On January 07 2014 19:40 Big J wrote: lost all my respect for Hydra after that and the other game vs Mech... Guy has simply no clue what to do in endgame ZvX.
He's really fucking good in early and midgame but for some reason he keeps wanting to play lategame tt
On January 07 2014 19:40 Big J wrote: lost all my respect for Hydra after that and the other game vs Mech... Guy has simply no clue what to do in endgame ZvX.
Say more bad things about Hydra and Snute will hunt you down, so beware!
On January 07 2014 19:40 Big J wrote: lost all my respect for Hydra after that and the other game vs Mech... Guy has simply no clue what to do in endgame ZvX.
It really looked like he was paralyzed. he was supplyblocked at 174 a huge bank. Nothing in production tab... then after a while 2 creep tumours appears on production tab... I mean that was so weird
On January 07 2014 19:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: If Coach Park thinks that Hydra is the best Zerg on CJ Entus, i don't even wanna know how bad Effort has to be.
Rumours have it the coach may know better than you
On January 07 2014 19:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: If Coach Park thinks that Hydra is the best Zerg on CJ Entus, i don't even wanna know how bad Effort has to be.
Rumours have it the coach may know better than you
On January 07 2014 19:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: If Coach Park thinks that Hydra is the best Zerg on CJ Entus, i don't even wanna know how bad Effort has to be.
Rumours have it the coach may know better than you
Well if it that is really true (Hydra > Effort) then it is really sad. Whatever Coach Park is overhyped nonetheless.
On January 07 2014 19:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: If Coach Park thinks that Hydra is the best Zerg on CJ Entus, i don't even wanna know how bad Effort has to be.
Rumours have it the coach may know better than you
Well if it that is really true (Hydra > Effort) then it is really sad. Whatever Coach Park is overhyped nonetheless.
On January 07 2014 19:54 Pandemona wrote: Maru so fucking good :3
No, hero is just so fucking stupid.
Nooo, why else go cloak banshee. Maru clearly knew how herO was going to play with greedy expand build or some greedy non robo based build. You have no reason to go banshee in TvP these days unless you know your opponent.
Thats 9 straight wins for T vs P/Z in proleague.. I do somewhat think that the only Ts on a whole new tier (thats balance immune) are playing hence being so lopsided.
On January 07 2014 19:59 Xxio wrote: lol did he take off his shoes for the game?
He's taken his shoes off for every Proleague game... lol
Yep, when players practice at the teamhouse they are barefooted, so some find playing with shoes on a weird feeling. A few other palyers are known to do that too.
On January 07 2014 19:59 Xxio wrote: lol did he take off his shoes for the game?
He's taken his shoes off for every Proleague game... lol
Yep, when players practice at the teamhouse they are barefooted, so some find playing with shoes on a weird feeling. A few other palyers are known to do that too.
Like ByuL, who also have a habit of winning games this round
On January 07 2014 20:01 Lorning wrote: CJ pulling an EGTL: #1 in pre-season power ranks, hiring Coach Park, ending last.
meh, they will have only easy opponents now. besides SKT that is. They will end up with 3-4 unfortunately, which will be either tied for 4th spot or 5th spot. And they were never #1 on any power rank.
On January 07 2014 20:03 Elite_ wrote: Zealously confirmed worst OP EU. Not even updating results or putting polls in the recommended games section. He's so bad.
wow last edited ages ago, zealously reported for communication abuse
On January 07 2014 20:03 Elite_ wrote: Zealously confirmed worst OP EU. Not even updating results or putting polls in the recommended games section. He's so bad.
Confirmed, on top of his amazing pro league predictions All be it to early to decide the fate of any team
On January 07 2014 20:03 Jono7272 wrote: I missed the start of the game, what was the banshee build he did? Gas first or a 2 base one?
He scouted a fast third from herO and decided to go for banshees/widow mines on 2 bases instead of taking a third himself. Probably because he studied herO's replays and knows that herO doesn't get robo quickly after 3 bases, which proved correct as herO tried to do a blink timing with many gateways.
hey zealously, if you don't have the time to update ops: I'm back from university now, I am home for the rest of the day and can keep the LR threads updated if you message an admin
On January 07 2014 20:03 Jono7272 wrote: I missed the start of the game, what was the banshee build he did? Gas first or a 2 base one?
Two base one. He somehow knew a 2 base blink aggression (on top of an expand by P) was coming along so instead of the usual 2 medivac after cc first 3 rax to starport, he went banshee with cloak and killed 19 probes while defending the blink counter handily.
Im not sure why its not mentioned but widow mines in TvP?? o_O Maru is doing some radical things from the standard meta like the mech TvP game.
lol all the prime fanboys cheer for GW, banshee bo-wins the game, probes forgotten for an hour, 5 star game!
You missed the part where Maru scouted that herO wouldn't have a robo for a while and went for Banshees in response to what he scouted.
He cannot know from a fast third if herO is going to build a robo or not. First has quick third builds that get a robo. He was probably metagaming herO as from his fact placement in the corner of his base, it seems he was going to build those Banshees anyway.
On January 07 2014 20:03 Jono7272 wrote: I missed the start of the game, what was the banshee build he did? Gas first or a 2 base one?
Two base one. He somehow knew a 2 base blink aggression (on top of an expand by P) was coming along so instead of the usual 2 medivac after cc first 3 rax to starport, he went banshee with cloak and killed 19 probes while defending the blink counter handily.
Im not sure why its not mentioned but widow mines in TvP?? o_O Maru is doing some radical things from the standard meta like the mech TvP game.
We've seen widow mines in TvP here and there.
Though now that I try to remember, I think it's mostly Maru that I've seen using mines in TvP...
Quick Shellbot pscreen/bookmark that post so we can use against him :3
To be fair all banter aside, i agree with you i think CJ just over practiced/over streamed and are getting found out too easy they should bounce back...but if they don't ahahahha
On December 16 2013 21:59 Zealously wrote: Pre-season 2 ez
Jin Air and SKT should've been flipped. Joke power rank.
Hey at least #1 didn't end up #8
Nah I stand by my prediction that CJ will finish at least top 3
Not in the first round though. The best they can do now is 3-4. 2 free wins against MVP and Prime and then SKT+IM will be 1W 1L I am pretty sure. All depends, but Top4 for R1 imo will be SKT, KT, Samsung and JinAir.
I have trust on my team because I needed a 1 point filler. I expected CJ to win and just farm points that way but I guess he can actually play from time to time
On January 07 2014 20:03 Jono7272 wrote: I missed the start of the game, what was the banshee build he did? Gas first or a 2 base one?
Two base one. He somehow knew a 2 base blink aggression (on top of an expand by P) was coming along so instead of the usual 2 medivac after cc first 3 rax to starport, he went banshee with cloak and killed 19 probes while defending the blink counter handily.
Im not sure why its not mentioned but widow mines in TvP?? o_O Maru is doing some radical things from the standard meta like the mech TvP game.
We've seen widow mines in TvP here and there.
Though now that I try to remember, I think it's mostly Maru that I've seen using mines in TvP...
I mean for mine drops yes.. but in a direct engagement where more than 2 is being used (there was 6)?? Ive never seen it before.
On January 07 2014 20:03 Jono7272 wrote: I missed the start of the game, what was the banshee build he did? Gas first or a 2 base one?
Two base one. He somehow knew a 2 base blink aggression (on top of an expand by P) was coming along so instead of the usual 2 medivac after cc first 3 rax to starport, he went banshee with cloak and killed 19 probes while defending the blink counter handily.
Im not sure why its not mentioned but widow mines in TvP?? o_O Maru is doing some radical things from the standard meta like the mech TvP game.
We've seen widow mines in TvP here and there.
Though now that I try to remember, I think it's mostly Maru that I've seen using mines in TvP...
I mean for mine drops yes.. but in a direct engagement where more than 2 is being used (there was 6)?? Ive never seen it before.
Maru used them in direct engagements against a protoss on whirlwind before. I can't remember but maybe it was vs either MC or duckdeok at Blizzcon?
Park "yongun" Yong Woon: He joined SK Telecom T1 in 2008. Upon becoming SKT's Head Coach, he established a number of changes to that team that brought it from a period of decline to a period of dominance, with SKT reaching the Proleague finals four years in a row.
1st 2011-2012 SK Planet Proleague Season 1 2nd 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League 1st 2010 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 2nd 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2009 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 1st 2009 Minor League 1st 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2008 Proleague Rivals Battle
1st 2011-2012 SK Planet Proleague Season 1 2nd 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League 1st 2010 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 2nd 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2009 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 1st 2009 Minor League 1st 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2008 Proleague Rivals Battle
1st 2011-2012 SK Planet Proleague Season 1 2nd 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League 1st 2010 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 2nd 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2009 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 1st 2009 Minor League 1st 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2008 Proleague Rivals Battle
On January 07 2014 20:15 Xxio wrote: Park "yongun" Yong Woon: He joined SK Telecom T1 in 2008. Upon becoming SKT's Head Coach, he established a number of changes to that team that brought it from a period of decline to a period of dominance, with SKT reaching the Proleague finals four years in a row.
all you haters...
Coach Park didn't win PL. $$$ won PL. Poor MBC lost their best player around 2008, when Coach Park joined.
1st 2011-2012 SK Planet Proleague Season 1 2nd 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League 1st 2010 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 2nd 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2009 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 1st 2009 Minor League 1st 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2008 Proleague Rivals Battle
Prime
1st GSTL Las Vegas
Only thing that matters
best GSTL season ever
those finals were amazing. that game vs Bomber. just wow
On January 07 2014 20:17 Xxio wrote: i don't recognize many people in the forums these days so i honestly didn't know if you guys were aware of his success in BW
1st 2011-2012 SK Planet Proleague Season 1 2nd 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League 1st 2010 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 2nd 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2009 GyeongNam STX Masters Cup 1st 2009 Minor League 1st 2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague 1st 2008 Proleague Rivals Battle
How much of that was Coach Park and how much of it was SKT being fucking rich?
Great play by Rogue, I love his ZvP. It is always the same, Burrow-movement Roaches with Swarm Hosts, but he is always playing like this, attacking everywhere, have solid Multitasking, and Protoss that aren't top tier just fall apart. Well played!
On January 07 2014 20:27 Dodgin wrote: I should have picked Rogue instead of Coca
The play sort of scared me from Rogue though; If Trust had just macroed instead of trying to do attacks that work versus a three base zerg, his counter attacks wouldn't have worked.
On January 07 2014 20:38 Big-t wrote: Am I really the only who is upset abut Terminator not being the MVP? I haven´t watched the first 10 mins of the Maru game, did I miss something?
Maru won vs herO, who is considered the best player on CJ i guess, and to be quite honest, that first game was just bad play from both players most of the time.
On January 07 2014 20:38 Big-t wrote: Am I really the only who is upset abut Terminator not being the MVP? I haven´t watched the first 10 mins of the Maru game, did I miss something?
Maru won vs herO, who is considered the best player on CJ i guess, and to be quite honest, that first game was just bad play from both players most of the time.
On January 08 2014 04:21 Zealously wrote: In my defense, there was no way to know beforehand that CJ would start off like a trainwreck tt
There was no reason to hype them that hard either, i think hero and sora will start to deliver (somewhat), but that are only 2 players.
Before Proleague started, with the recent performances of CJ (Sora, herO, Effort, Bbyong, Hydra) in mind, would you really have placed them below top 2?
On January 08 2014 04:21 Zealously wrote: In my defense, there was no way to know beforehand that CJ would start off like a trainwreck tt
It was a reasonable assumption, it could be argued about the #1 placement of the team, but they should have been easily in the top, now they're at the absolute bottom, makes no damn sense. I mean right now they're below Prime and MVP. They can improve a bit still, but damn. All the players who did so well in individual leagues are underperforming.
On January 08 2014 04:21 Zealously wrote: In my defense, there was no way to know beforehand that CJ would start off like a trainwreck tt
There was no reason to hype them that hard either, i think hero and sora will start to deliver (somewhat), but that are only 2 players.
Before Proleague started, with the recent performances of CJ (Sora, herO, Effort, Bbyong, Hydra) in mind, would you really have placed them below top 2?
On January 08 2014 04:21 Zealously wrote: In my defense, there was no way to know beforehand that CJ would start off like a trainwreck tt
There was no reason to hype them that hard either, i think hero and sora will start to deliver (somewhat), but that are only 2 players.
Before Proleague started, with the recent performances of CJ (Sora, herO, Effort, Bbyong, Hydra) in mind, would you really have placed them below top 2?
Hm that is a good question, i thought they will fight for a top 4 placement (with SKT, Jinair; KT and CJ) and i still think they will manage that. But i don't think that either of them has any "godlike" status (not even SKT, i don't think they will have a big lead in the end). But yeah Bbyong, Hydra and Effort aren't really on my "wow" list.
On January 08 2014 04:21 Zealously wrote: In my defense, there was no way to know beforehand that CJ would start off like a trainwreck tt
There was no reason to hype them that hard either, i think hero and sora will start to deliver (somewhat), but that are only 2 players.
Before Proleague started, with the recent performances of CJ (Sora, herO, Effort, Bbyong, Hydra) in mind, would you really have placed them below top 2?
i dno i feel EGTL had more hype value than CJ
Because of the level of their players or because they were a foreign team fusion created by, arguably, the two most popular teams in the world?
On January 08 2014 04:21 Zealously wrote: In my defense, there was no way to know beforehand that CJ would start off like a trainwreck tt
There was no reason to hype them that hard either, i think hero and sora will start to deliver (somewhat), but that are only 2 players.
Before Proleague started, with the recent performances of CJ (Sora, herO, Effort, Bbyong, Hydra) in mind, would you really have placed them below top 2?
i dno i feel EGTL had more hype value than CJ
Because of the level of their players or because they were a foreign team fusion created by, arguably, the two most popular teams in the world?
both. look at what peoople were saying back then without bias and you'll see that most people thought EGTL players like hero and taeja would be far too much to handle.
Zeaulously hyped Trust for me :D And then Trust pulled up Stats derp mode from 2 days before.
First game was amazing, Hydra is such emperor in creep spread and threw game into nowhere again. And Wolf was cute with those screams about "wtf is this unit". Sadly sOs hadn't won this time at least he hadn't lost, so it's something already <3
And Maru is so Maru. Poor herO.
CJ Entus are out of playoffs in Round 1 seems like, time to comeback in next rounds.
On January 08 2014 04:21 Zealously wrote: In my defense, there was no way to know beforehand that CJ would start off like a trainwreck tt
There was no reason to hype them that hard either, i think hero and sora will start to deliver (somewhat), but that are only 2 players.
Before Proleague started, with the recent performances of CJ (Sora, herO, Effort, Bbyong, Hydra) in mind, would you really have placed them below top 2?
i dno i feel EGTL had more hype value than CJ
Because of the level of their players or because they were a foreign team fusion created by, arguably, the two most popular teams in the world?
I think that in this format, it's more important to have some superstars than a plethora of good players. SKT virtually can't lose a match, as we know, and KT and JinAir's top players are on paper superior players, imo (Well, this assertion is kind of a gamble on TY's potential godliness :D). A few unlucky matchup-ups and CJ's top dogs get their asses sniped by superior top players on the other side (like TY vs herO, or Maru vs herO) and then it's kinda random in matchups between mid-range players.
I'm not surprised by CJ's position, but I think they'll go back up. It's just a bit of bad luck on their part (or misallocation of matchups and maps, if you don't want to consider that as luck) and not being having as good of a top as the 3 current first teams.
My god, such brilliance by Maru. He completely got Hero's number there.
On a side note, I feel really sad for Wolf who was trying to make jokes about seeing a Mother ship (no core) and a carrier, and Moonglade completely not getting the joke, or at least not taking the bait. I think the duo could benefit from moonglade being less serious and interact better with wolf.
But making a single carrier is such a brilliant idea. I really enjoy this thinking outside the box !
On January 09 2014 02:27 hfsrj wrote: My god, such brilliance by Maru. He completely got Hero's number there.
On a side note, I feel really sad for Wolf who was trying to make jokes about seeing a Mother ship (no core) and a carrier, and Moonglade completely not getting the joke, or at least not taking the bait. I think the duo could benefit from moonglade being less serious and interact better with wolf.
But making a single carrier is such a brilliant idea. I really enjoy this thinking outside the box !
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