EPTOn December 05 2013 21:06 opterown wrote:
honestly soulkey's ZvT is not that strong, pity.
honestly soulkey's ZvT is not that strong, pity.
Maybe - Bomber is playing better than Soulkey is playing poorly though for sure
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
Maybe - Bomber is playing better than Soulkey is playing poorly though for sure | ||
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Lorch
Germany3684 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:05 LimitSEA wrote: You mean Soulkey making himself look like a fool, building roaches. He did well, but jeez why not get infestors or more banelings? Fix'd that for ya. Gotta appreciate bombers large amount of builds and strats, especially since we don't get to watch MVP play a lot anymore. | ||
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RoranRock
France294 Posts
 My zerg soul is being hurt right now | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:05 Fjodorov wrote: Shouldnt SK have been more aggressive harassing bombers bases with his mutas? Muta vs pure bio isnt very good, sure picking off medivacs is nice but he could have been doing more dmg harassing. Bomber is typically very late with his expos, he seems to want to keep a tight cluster of bases that are easy to defend, and then rely on macro to overwhelm the zerg before he needs more bases. Anyway, seeing this kind of puts Scarlett's wins at red bull and IEM over Bomber into perspective. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:05 Calthrash wrote: So Bomber goes to lose to Scarlett in two tournaments and then pops up in here and destroys Soulkey? Guess that is the consistancy of Bomber for you  Well, Scarlett's ZvT is definitely up there. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:07 liberate71 wrote: Maybe - Bomber is playing better than Soulkey is playing poorly though for sure soulkey's ZvT is by far his weakest, and it's a bit overrated | ||
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VKCA
Canada391 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:05 LimitSEA wrote: You mean Soulkey making himself look like a fool, building roaches vs pure bio. He did well, but jeez why not get infestors or more banelings? in soulkey's defense, I'm sure he was kind of surprised when when bomber continued to push into him even though he could see like 40 morphing banelings + 25 more already made | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:06 liberate71 wrote: Too much gas cost I guess with Mutas. Mutas much better vs drops so can't go Infestor only for that I feel like when he stopped muta production to make the roaches he should've been going with infestors. Hold down the bio so he can't split and connect with extra banelings instead of attacking with roaches and maybe he takes a few more fights efficiently, especially if he doesn't lose any of the infestors. | ||
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
Edit: And it's not even like they were good games either, Bomber just absolutely crushed SoulKey, he's looking like some random Korean zerg today. Really disappointed in these games so far. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote: when banelings don't work cause terrans are too good at spliting, Zerg has a very hard time dealing with bio^^ dunno, i kinda hate the design of tvz nowadays, it creates sometimes cool matches, but Zerg has just no good and "save" way of dealing with these big bio armies if the terran doesnt just amove It's more than not A-moving though, you said it yourself - you have to split, and split gooderer than 99% of other terrans | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote: when banelings don't work cause terrans are too good at spliting, Zerg has a very hard time dealing with bio^^ dunno, i kinda hate the design of tvz nowadays, it creates sometimes cool matches, but Zerg has just no good and "save" way of dealing with these big bio armies if the terran doesnt just amove TIL: Bomber quality splits = a little better than A move. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:07 marvellosity wrote: Indisputable evidence that Scarlett > Soulkey Bomber is very inconsistent player. Not sure if any conclusions can be made when someone beats/loses to Bomber. It all depends on which Bomber shows up. | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:06 The_Red_Viper wrote: when banelings don't work cause terrans are too good at spliting, Zerg has a very hard time dealing with bio^^ dunno, i kinda hate the design of tvz nowadays, it creates sometimes cool matches, but Zerg has just no good and "save" way of dealing with these big bio armies if the terran doesnt just amove banelings work perfect against pure bio if you're not a-moving your banelings. he also made roaches which was like the worst choice he could have possibly made. at least he tried to flank but he spent so much money getting out useless roaches he basically killed himself | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:08 VKCA wrote: in soulkey's defense, I'm sure he was kind of surprised when when bomber continued to push into him even though he could see like 40 morphing banelings + 25 more already made True that I suppose. But if you know you're playing Bomber, a Terran with a penchant for having more shit than other Terrans would following a push, you'd probably have that in the back of your mind. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:09 LimitSEA wrote: I feel like when he stopped muta production to make the roaches he should've been going with infestors. Hold down the bio so he can't split and connect with extra banelings instead of attacking with roaches and maybe he takes a few more fights efficiently, especially if he doesn't lose any of the infestors. Yeah it seems like that wouldve been the way to go, but I'd have to assume he's used that kinda of play before and had some success with it, he probably just didn't expect such ridiculous macro like bombers to tear his army down. | ||
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:05 tomwizz wrote: I'm curious why zerg player don't make infestor vs bio anymore? It's hard to do it in the phase where terran is on 3 bases and pushing the 4th of zerg, or when it becomes a long MMMM vs MutaLingBling fight, if you use the gas/minerals to transition it gives terran a chance to overwhelm you when the unit stream is reduced. You can transition if it goes to a later game though (Or if terran isn't parade pushing) | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:09 LimitSEA wrote: I feel like when he stopped muta production to make the roaches he should've been going with infestors. Hold down the bio so he can't split and connect with extra banelings instead of attacking with roaches and maybe he takes a few more fights efficiently, especially if he doesn't lose any of the infestors. Infestors can shoot fungal once every ~150s, which equals 12 marines off 1 reactor barracks... If Terran sees infestors he might be surprised ONCE, after that, drops and presplits nulify infestors. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:09 liberate71 wrote: It's more than not A-moving though, you said it yourself - you have to split, and split gooderer than 99% of other terrans I like that use of gooderer | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
On December 05 2013 21:09 ArTiFaKs wrote: Everyone recommending these boring ass TvZ's ? You kidding me? Same thing over and over the past 3 games, not to mention the past 4 months. Such a shame, thank god there won't be a TvZ finals. Please stop looking at the polls then. That game featured PURE bio. No mines. It was electrifying Terran play and zergs don't deal with it every darn game. You saw he looked a little confused. Please. | ||
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