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Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:46:15
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4881
Meh counter attacking and killing scvs all day against 3+ orbital terran wont win the game in the long run
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3756 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4882
Wins 7 premier tournaments in Europe but plays WCS AM o_O Congrats
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:46:25
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4883
On December 01 2013 08:44 Adreme wrote:
I don't understand the current ZvT meta it just doesn't make sense to me why zergs bet everything on winning in mid game instead of developing there army.


The only thing you can really add are infestors.

Marines destroy Ultralisks and Brood Lords, too.

Speedvacs are pretty damned good.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4884
On December 01 2013 08:45 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:42 Sabu113 wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:41 Ramiz1989 wrote:
No matter how Terran's economy is crippled, he will still be on feet because of Mules and better upgrades, so I don't know what is Life trying.


and a 75/75 great splash unit that comes out in two?

Just always see zergs bleeding gas. They need somehting like lurkers to be able to hold ground semi-effectively or make it painful to push into some places.

Zergs need to go Hive tech earlier.

Life did in game 1. Didn't work out so well.
halfaspider
Profile Joined August 2013
United States31 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4885
turns out mules win games. who knew.

User was warned for this post
whatup
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4886
On December 01 2013 08:45 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:44 Adreme wrote:
I don't understand the current ZvT meta it just doesn't make sense to me why zergs bet everything on winning in mid game instead of developing there army.

Their end-game army isn't mobile enough to keep up with the terran.


That, and it's also difficult to invest the time/resources into infestation pit and hive and survive against constant pressure. Personally I'd love to see 3/3 at infestation tech.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4887
Life
I think Taeja is definitely the best player in the world.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4888
Glad he overcame the desk.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4889
On December 01 2013 08:44 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:34 rinnnedor321 wrote:
i dont get it


life... you really cant just beat normal standard bio mine ???

ugh i was looking to you for answers. like maybe a fast ultra build or something


Normal standard biomine as played by Taeja is too good for all but a few zergs. Despite widow mine nerf it's still a super efficient composition.


The best way for Zerg to counter that is to develop better creep spread, so you can have more map control against the MMMM. Without them, Terran would have a much easier time outmaneuvering the zerg units especially the banelings!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44267 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4890
Zealously its ok .
this is a quote
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4891
On December 01 2013 08:45 JerKy wrote:
LOL I love how she says it in english then korean

As opposed to...?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:46:49
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4892
Poeple whinning on Mines, seriously?
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#4893
He really wanted those dollars
All I do is Stim.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#4894
really good finals. I guess the key to killing Life is always keeping a solid defence whilst attacking, and mixing in those thors.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#4895
On December 01 2013 08:46 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:44 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:34 rinnnedor321 wrote:
i dont get it


life... you really cant just beat normal standard bio mine ???

ugh i was looking to you for answers. like maybe a fast ultra build or something


Normal standard biomine as played by Taeja is too good for all but a few zergs. Despite widow mine nerf it's still a super efficient composition.


The best way for Zerg to counter that is to develop better creep spread, so you can have more map control against the MMMM. Without them, Terran would have a much easier time outmaneuvering the zerg units especially the banelings!


It's MMMMM!
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#4896
DREAMHACK
owned by Liquid

Every year Liquid wins 2 Dreamhacks for 3 years in a row now.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#4897
On December 01 2013 08:46 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:45 JerKy wrote:
LOL I love how she says it in english then korean

As opposed to...?

saying it in swahili and then in chinese.
The Bomber boy
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#4898
this is perfectly lined up for the darude gig
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Davkaus
Profile Joined October 2013
United Kingdom368 Posts
November 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#4899
On December 01 2013 08:46 Jono7272 wrote:
Glad he overcame the desk.


Terran 4 - 2 Desks.

Buff desks, plz, Blizz.
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
November 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#4900
I've been watching Taeja since those Korean weekly tournaments that Orb casted, and man I love this guy
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
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