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[DreamHack] Winter Day 3 2013 - Page 226

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_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:12:37
November 30 2013 23:11 GMT
#4501
TvT is arguably the best match up in the game. It's clearly the best mirror. ZvZ and PvP probably worst match ups in the game. TvZ is pretty good but I wish we saw more varied compositions. WoL TvZ before BL infestor was the best match up SC2 has seen yet in it's history.
Red and yellow are all I see
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:12:01
November 30 2013 23:11 GMT
#4502
didnt get any first person view yet. Production probably just busy watching the awesome games :D
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44281 Posts
November 30 2013 23:11 GMT
#4503
On December 01 2013 08:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
Back in time. Exciting final so far?

game 1,2,3 are a must too see .. too crazy
this is a quote
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 30 2013 23:11 GMT
#4504
So assuming Life wins the rest of the games he will defeat Taeja with an end score of 4-4 in the tournament against him. That is just so dumb for the finals.
QO Feasting
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 30 2013 23:12 GMT
#4505
On December 01 2013 08:11 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TvT is arguably the best match up in the game.


T v Z at top GSL level is normally better but T v T can be just as good for sure. I think everyone can agree they're the two best matchups
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
November 30 2013 23:12 GMT
#4506
Bomber versus any race = best matchups.


admit it.
The Bomber boy
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
November 30 2013 23:12 GMT
#4507
On December 01 2013 08:04 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:03 Dinotramp wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:01 goody153 wrote:
On December 01 2013 07:59 Dinotramp wrote:
In order of excitingness

T v Z
T v T
Z v P
T v P
Z v Z
P v P

Any disagreements?

i think tvp and zvp are on the same spot .. tvp produces the most nailbitting shit at times whenever we it doesnt involve in all-ins from toss ...

like

that long macro game taeja vs rain on whirlwind
or flash vs parting on akilon waste


Slight problem there, "When it isn't all-ins" All in for toss is like 95% of the time.

yep thats why its rare .. tvp when the toss all-ins mostly makes everyone hates the game .. but long macro games produce crazy micro


i'd order it in terms of excitingness like this:

Z v P
T v Z
T v T
P v P
T v P
Z v Z

ZvP edges out TvZ because it has way more variability in strategy. TvZ is more action packed but it's virtually always the 4m vs mutaling stuff. ZvP has quite a bit of action too, many different openings and lots of strategies on both sides. TvT is just a great mirror, multiple possible strats and tons of openings. TvP is awful, it's always the same stuff and usually just P defending and trying to avoid action as much as possible until lategame save the occasional cheese from P. PvP is ok, quite some varied actions but get's a bit stale after the early game. ZvZ is the worst especially with the trend of gasless into roaches, pure roach or roach/hydra fights are really boring.
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
November 30 2013 23:12 GMT
#4508
TvT is really good as long as long as at least one player plays Bio.

Banshee vs. Banshee is bad, Mech vs. Mech is horrible.
Have a nice day!
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 30 2013 23:12 GMT
#4509
On December 01 2013 08:11 bourne117 wrote:
So assuming Life wins the rest of the games he will defeat Taeja with an end score of 4-4 in the tournament against him. That is just so dumb for the finals.


Its not one long series during the entire tournament. THe final is the final
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 30 2013 23:12 GMT
#4510
On December 01 2013 08:12 Wintex wrote:
Bomber versus any race = best matchups.


admit it.


Especially when he gets wiped by a foreigner.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
November 30 2013 23:13 GMT
#4511
On December 01 2013 08:12 Wintex wrote:
Bomber versus any race = best matchups.


admit it.

Indeed. Bomber <3!! :3
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
November 30 2013 23:13 GMT
#4512
Twitch dieing on me -.-
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 30 2013 23:13 GMT
#4513
On December 01 2013 08:12 Wintex wrote:
Bomber versus any race = best matchups.


admit it.

haha. didn't need to look at the username to know who wrote it.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:13:37
November 30 2013 23:13 GMT
#4514
On December 01 2013 08:11 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
Back in time. Exciting final so far?

Best final in a while imo.


It's been a long time since we had a Finals that wasn't just a 4-0 / 4-1 walkover, IEM NY with Nani vs Life comes to mind but Life had that one in the bag
The curse is real
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 30 2013 23:13 GMT
#4515
On December 01 2013 08:12 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:12 Wintex wrote:
Bomber versus any race = best matchups.


admit it.


Especially when he gets wiped by a foreigner.

dat BURN
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
November 30 2013 23:13 GMT
#4516
On December 01 2013 08:12 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:12 Wintex wrote:
Bomber versus any race = best matchups.


admit it.


Especially when he gets wiped by a foreigner.

Jesus, too soon..
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 30 2013 23:13 GMT
#4517
On December 01 2013 08:11 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
TvT is arguably the best match up in the game. It's clearly the best mirror. ZvZ and PvP probably worst match ups in the game. TvZ is pretty good but I wish we saw more varied compositions. WoL TvZ before BL infestor was the best match up SC2 has seen yet in it's history.

Everything you said differs from opinion to opinion.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 30 2013 23:14 GMT
#4518
On December 01 2013 08:11 bourne117 wrote:
So assuming Life wins the rest of the games he will defeat Taeja with an end score of 4-4 in the tournament against him. That is just so dumb for the finals.

I always wonder why people look at it like that. Different rounds reset the score, seems so obvious.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44281 Posts
November 30 2013 23:14 GMT
#4519
On December 01 2013 08:12 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:04 goody153 wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:03 Dinotramp wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:01 goody153 wrote:
On December 01 2013 07:59 Dinotramp wrote:
In order of excitingness

T v Z
T v T
Z v P
T v P
Z v Z
P v P

Any disagreements?

i think tvp and zvp are on the same spot .. tvp produces the most nailbitting shit at times whenever we it doesnt involve in all-ins from toss ...

like

that long macro game taeja vs rain on whirlwind
or flash vs parting on akilon waste


Slight problem there, "When it isn't all-ins" All in for toss is like 95% of the time.

yep thats why its rare .. tvp when the toss all-ins mostly makes everyone hates the game .. but long macro games produce crazy micro


i'd order it in terms of excitingness like this:

Z v P
T v Z
T v T
P v P
T v P
Z v Z

ZvP edges out TvZ because it has way more variability in strategy. TvZ is more action packed but it's virtually always the 4m vs mutaling stuff. ZvP has quite a bit of action too, many different openings and lots of strategies on both sides. TvT is just a great mirror, multiple possible strats and tons of openings. TvP is awful, it's always the same stuff and usually just P defending and trying to avoid action as much as possible until lategame save the occasional cheese from P. PvP is ok, quite some varied actions but get's a bit stale after the early game. ZvZ is the worst especially with the trend of gasless into roaches, pure roach or roach/hydra fights are really boring.


wow people really have different opinions although i agree with zvz .. roachwars are too boring. I missed the lingbling wars only already
this is a quote
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 30 2013 23:14 GMT
#4520
these last 4 games have been nothing short of amazing. Taeja holding on in game 3 to win it. Life winning with aggression. The ending of the first game(only one I missed so far lol).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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