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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 10:04 GMT
#841
On November 30 2013 19:03 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:03 stuchiu wrote:
Jim 2-1 Soulkey.


Wat


Two macro games.
Moderator
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
November 30 2013 10:04 GMT
#842
On November 30 2013 16:51 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 16:49 Cheren wrote:
This weekend I've been obsessed with casters' little phrases like:

Idra - "conscientious"
Incontrol - "bad news bears"
Nathanias - "for all intents and purposes"

I thought Nathanias' catch-phrase was "shove". Everybody shoves everything in his casts.


inb4 nathanias literally uses neither of these phrases today \o/ :D
CommentatorNever give up, Never surrender
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
November 30 2013 10:05 GMT
#843
On November 30 2013 19:01 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 18:54 Xoronius wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:53 Schelim wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
bomber lost to scarlett again? T_T

yup :D

this is becoming a serious rivalry. i just wish Bomber would be more on the winning side t.t

He was today, technically. Unfortunately he won the 3 games, that were less worth than the other 3 games.


Why do we always have people whining about the GSL group format, when their favorite player loses? Can you just face it that there is no optimal solution and that everything can be used to argue that "X lost because of bad format"?

- round robin groups cause meaningless games for some players. Thus, a player who gets to play someone who doesn't care anymore, gets an advantage and the outcome is dependent on the luck in the order the games are played.

- pure single elimination tourneys are completely dependent on the luck of the draw for the oponent

- any other system takes either too long or is completely messed up for the viewer


Well, he isn't wrong. It didn't come across as whining to me, just observation.
My wife for hire! - Zealot
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 30 2013 10:05 GMT
#844
On November 30 2013 19:01 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 18:54 Xoronius wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:53 Schelim wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
bomber lost to scarlett again? T_T

yup :D

this is becoming a serious rivalry. i just wish Bomber would be more on the winning side t.t

He was today, technically. Unfortunately he won the 3 games, that were less worth than the other 3 games.


Why do we always have people whining about the GSL group format, when their favorite player loses? Can you just face it that there is no optimal solution and that everything can be used to argue that "X lost because of bad format"?

- round robin groups cause meaningless games for some players. Thus, a player who gets to play someone who doesn't care anymore, gets an advantage and the outcome is dependent on the luck in the order the games are played.

- pure single elimination tourneys are completely dependent on the luck of the draw for the oponent

- any other system takes either too long or is completely messed up for the viewer

Because Plexa told me in various tournament, not to have this discussion in the LR; would you be interested in getting a PM with my detailed thoughts about it? I´d be open for that, but it takes time to write it, so I would only invest the effort, if you are interested.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 30 2013 10:06 GMT
#845
On November 30 2013 19:04 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:03 Dodgin wrote:
On November 30 2013 19:03 stuchiu wrote:
Jim 2-1 Soulkey.


Wat


Two macro games.


It's bo5 though right? Soulkey hasn't lost yet?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 30 2013 10:07 GMT
#846
On November 30 2013 19:04 Nathanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 16:51 Ctesias wrote:
On November 30 2013 16:49 Cheren wrote:
This weekend I've been obsessed with casters' little phrases like:

Idra - "conscientious"
Incontrol - "bad news bears"
Nathanias - "for all intents and purposes"

I thought Nathanias' catch-phrase was "shove". Everybody shoves everything in his casts.


inb4 nathanias literally uses neither of these phrases today \o/ :D


You can't use "literally" either. Ha.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 10:07 GMT
#847
On November 30 2013 19:06 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:04 stuchiu wrote:
On November 30 2013 19:03 Dodgin wrote:
On November 30 2013 19:03 stuchiu wrote:
Jim 2-1 Soulkey.


Wat


Two macro games.


It's bo5 though right? Soulkey hasn't lost yet?


Right game 4 starting.
Moderator
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
November 30 2013 10:07 GMT
#848
Ya bo5
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 30 2013 10:08 GMT
#849
On November 30 2013 19:05 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:01 opisska wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:54 Xoronius wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:53 Schelim wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
bomber lost to scarlett again? T_T

yup :D

this is becoming a serious rivalry. i just wish Bomber would be more on the winning side t.t

He was today, technically. Unfortunately he won the 3 games, that were less worth than the other 3 games.


Why do we always have people whining about the GSL group format, when their favorite player loses? Can you just face it that there is no optimal solution and that everything can be used to argue that "X lost because of bad format"?

- round robin groups cause meaningless games for some players. Thus, a player who gets to play someone who doesn't care anymore, gets an advantage and the outcome is dependent on the luck in the order the games are played.

- pure single elimination tourneys are completely dependent on the luck of the draw for the oponent

- any other system takes either too long or is completely messed up for the viewer

Because Plexa told me in various tournament, not to have this discussion in the LR; would you be interested in getting a PM with my detailed thoughts about it? I´d be open for that, but it takes time to write it, so I would only invest the effort, if you are interested.


Isn't there a good thread to dicsuss this somewhere then? I kinda feel it wasteful faving you write a PM just for me to read, but I would gladly join a conversation in a relevant thread.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
November 30 2013 10:12 GMT
#850
On November 30 2013 19:05 HystericaLaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:01 opisska wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:54 Xoronius wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:53 Schelim wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
bomber lost to scarlett again? T_T

yup :D

this is becoming a serious rivalry. i just wish Bomber would be more on the winning side t.t

He was today, technically. Unfortunately he won the 3 games, that were less worth than the other 3 games.


Why do we always have people whining about the GSL group format, when their favorite player loses? Can you just face it that there is no optimal solution and that everything can be used to argue that "X lost because of bad format"?

- round robin groups cause meaningless games for some players. Thus, a player who gets to play someone who doesn't care anymore, gets an advantage and the outcome is dependent on the luck in the order the games are played.

- pure single elimination tourneys are completely dependent on the luck of the draw for the oponent

- any other system takes either too long or is completely messed up for the viewer


Well, he isn't wrong. It didn't come across as whining to me, just observation.


Maybe we can come up with some sort of system where the games played previously help you out if you face the same player again. Instead of playing two separate series, their record could carry over, and it would be like they were in a single series that was extended. I can't think of a good name for it, but I bet the whole community would really get behind that format.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 10:12:43
November 30 2013 10:12 GMT
#851
On November 30 2013 19:08 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:05 Xoronius wrote:
On November 30 2013 19:01 opisska wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:54 Xoronius wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:53 Schelim wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 30 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
bomber lost to scarlett again? T_T

yup :D

this is becoming a serious rivalry. i just wish Bomber would be more on the winning side t.t

He was today, technically. Unfortunately he won the 3 games, that were less worth than the other 3 games.


Why do we always have people whining about the GSL group format, when their favorite player loses? Can you just face it that there is no optimal solution and that everything can be used to argue that "X lost because of bad format"?

- round robin groups cause meaningless games for some players. Thus, a player who gets to play someone who doesn't care anymore, gets an advantage and the outcome is dependent on the luck in the order the games are played.

- pure single elimination tourneys are completely dependent on the luck of the draw for the oponent

- any other system takes either too long or is completely messed up for the viewer

Because Plexa told me in various tournament, not to have this discussion in the LR; would you be interested in getting a PM with my detailed thoughts about it? I´d be open for that, but it takes time to write it, so I would only invest the effort, if you are interested.


Isn't there a good thread to dicsuss this somewhere then? I kinda feel it wasteful faving you write a PM just for me to read, but I would gladly join a conversation in a relevant thread.


I don't think theirs a thread for that :o
Moderatorlickypiddy
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 30 2013 10:12 GMT
#852
Grubby hwaiting!!!!!
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 30 2013 10:13 GMT
#853
WTF who stole Idra!? I will have him restored immediately, or bukkake will follow.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
November 30 2013 10:14 GMT
#854
On November 30 2013 19:13 Squat wrote:
WTF who stole Idra!? I will have him restored immediately, or bukkake will follow.


o.o what? Against who?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 10:14 GMT
#855
On November 30 2013 19:14 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:13 Squat wrote:
WTF who stole Idra!? I will have him restored immediately, or bukkake will follow.


o.o what? Against who?


Someone in Sweden I'd think.
Moderator
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 30 2013 10:16 GMT
#856
On November 30 2013 19:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:14 Heartland wrote:
On November 30 2013 19:13 Squat wrote:
WTF who stole Idra!? I will have him restored immediately, or bukkake will follow.


o.o what? Against who?


Someone in Sweden I'd think.


bukkake isn't a Swedish name though
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 30 2013 10:17 GMT
#857
On November 30 2013 19:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:14 Heartland wrote:
On November 30 2013 19:13 Squat wrote:
WTF who stole Idra!? I will have him restored immediately, or bukkake will follow.


o.o what? Against who?


Someone in Sweden I'd think.

I have a passport. There is no place to hide.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
November 30 2013 10:17 GMT
#858
Hey, as long as it's consensual, go for it.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 30 2013 10:19 GMT
#859
I'm like Borat, consent is not required.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 30 2013 10:21 GMT
#860
this is taking quite a while to start
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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