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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 06:43:27
November 30 2013 06:42 GMT
#401
On November 30 2013 15:40 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 15:36 leo23 wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:35 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:33 ChoDing wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:32 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:27 leo23 wrote:
Completely outplayed holy moly dream is tier d korean lol

Don't talk


why not, when it's true...dream had this game in his ballz.

"Completely outplayed" lol no
"Dream is tier D Korean" lol no


how is being 50 supply up with 3+ 3+ marines and the zerg has only 2 bases and you end up losing not outplayed?

tier D is just nomenclature I guess I am wrong on that

you should play the game more

I play the game plenty enough thank you very much.
I don't want to get too much into this because it's just going to devolve into a balance whine. But the way Scarlett used her mutas was very indicative of Zerg's ability to abuse air units. Back in the BW days, Terran could hold mutas because of valkyries. In SC2, Terran doesn't really have anything that can hold against mutas. Thors and widow mines are all ground-related defenses, are slow, and can't hold when mutas are in large numbers. Therefore, Dream couldn't do anything against Scarlett's muta abuse.


She won that game through muta MICRO

We NEVER see that. She doesn't just camp over production facilities, in fact she rarely did that. She used her muta ball to snipe stuff, pull back, even individual marines.

When it gets to that skill level, it's not abuse or anything, it's beauty.

I cannot believe you would even call it abuse when there's no one else who's on that level
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 06:44:29
November 30 2013 06:42 GMT
#402
On November 30 2013 15:40 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 15:36 leo23 wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:35 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:33 ChoDing wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:32 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:27 leo23 wrote:
Completely outplayed holy moly dream is tier d korean lol

Don't talk


why not, when it's true...dream had this game in his ballz.

"Completely outplayed" lol no
"Dream is tier D Korean" lol no


how is being 50 supply up with 3+ 3+ marines and the zerg has only 2 bases and you end up losing not outplayed?

tier D is just nomenclature I guess I am wrong on that

you should play the game more

I play the game plenty enough thank you very much.
I don't want to get too much into this because it's just going to devolve into a balance whine. But the way Scarlett used her mutas was very indicative of Zerg's ability to abuse air units. Back in the BW days, Terran could hold mutas because of valkyries. In SC2, Terran doesn't really have anything that can hold against mutas. Thors and widow mines are all ground-related defenses, are slow, and can't hold when mutas are in large numbers. Therefore, Dream couldn't do anything against Scarlett's muta abuse.


And I agree with you. But don't you agree that dream had a HUGE timing, but he just let it slip because of his fear of mutas(when they had not reached a critical mass)?

EDIT: And abuse might not be the right word, although I do cringe when zerg players bunch up all their mutas and get 2 widow mines on them and all they have to do is wait 45 secs to get them healed up. But well it is sc2
banelings
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 30 2013 06:43 GMT
#403
On November 30 2013 15:40 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 15:36 leo23 wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:35 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:33 ChoDing wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:32 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:27 leo23 wrote:
Completely outplayed holy moly dream is tier d korean lol

Don't talk


why not, when it's true...dream had this game in his ballz.

"Completely outplayed" lol no
"Dream is tier D Korean" lol no


how is being 50 supply up with 3+ 3+ marines and the zerg has only 2 bases and you end up losing not outplayed?

tier D is just nomenclature I guess I am wrong on that

you should play the game more

I play the game plenty enough thank you very much.
I don't want to get too much into this because it's just going to devolve into a balance whine. But the way Scarlett used her mutas was very indicative of Zerg's ability to abuse air units. Back in the BW days, Terran could hold mutas because of valkyries. In SC2, Terran doesn't really have anything that can hold against mutas. Thors and widow mines are all ground-related defenses, are slow, and can't hold when mutas are in large numbers. Therefore, Dream couldn't do anything against Scarlett's muta abuse.

darn, tried to report this for balance whining but couldn't On a more serious note, you make a good note. There is no air to air splash unit although widow mines do a good job against mass mutas if they are clumped. At one point, a widow mine hit got Scarlett's mutas down to yellow, all of them at once so no valkyries, but at least wm play some role as well.


On November 30 2013 15:42 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 15:40 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:36 leo23 wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:35 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:33 ChoDing wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:32 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:27 leo23 wrote:
Completely outplayed holy moly dream is tier d korean lol

Don't talk


why not, when it's true...dream had this game in his ballz.

"Completely outplayed" lol no
"Dream is tier D Korean" lol no


how is being 50 supply up with 3+ 3+ marines and the zerg has only 2 bases and you end up losing not outplayed?

tier D is just nomenclature I guess I am wrong on that

you should play the game more

I play the game plenty enough thank you very much.
I don't want to get too much into this because it's just going to devolve into a balance whine. But the way Scarlett used her mutas was very indicative of Zerg's ability to abuse air units. Back in the BW days, Terran could hold mutas because of valkyries. In SC2, Terran doesn't really have anything that can hold against mutas. Thors and widow mines are all ground-related defenses, are slow, and can't hold when mutas are in large numbers. Therefore, Dream couldn't do anything against Scarlett's muta abuse.


And I agree with you. But don't you agree that dream had a HUGE timing, but he just let it slip because of his fear of mutas(when they had not reached a critical mass)?

she had 30 mutas though. That's quite a bit lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 06:43 GMT
#404
Triple drop into up 50 supply. Now can he channel his inner July?
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 06:44:08
November 30 2013 06:44 GMT
#405
enjoying this series ^^
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
November 30 2013 06:44 GMT
#406
wow dreams macro is incredible, how is he at 160 before the 13 minute mark while also managing 4 different drops?
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 06:44 GMT
#407
Wow, much better by Dream.
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blinken
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada368 Posts
November 30 2013 06:44 GMT
#408
Wtf did I just watch?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 06:44 GMT
#409
Poll: Recommend Scarlett vs Dream g2

Yes (3)
 
50%

If you have time (2)
 
33%

No (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Dream g2

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#410
herp derp dream is tier d korean
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#411
On November 30 2013 15:36 leo23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 15:35 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:33 ChoDing wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:32 Seeker wrote:
On November 30 2013 15:27 leo23 wrote:
Completely outplayed holy moly dream is tier d korean lol

Don't talk


why not, when it's true...dream had this game in his ballz.

"Completely outplayed" lol no
"Dream is tier D Korean" lol no


how is being 50 supply up with 3+ 3+ marines and the zerg has only 2 bases and you end up losing not outplayed?

tier D is just nomenclature I guess I am wrong on that

you should play the game more

outplayed
Long live the King of Wings
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#412
lol scarlett is such a tier D foreigner
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whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#413
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees thank you Dream!
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#414
Just admit it, he played like Innovation that game.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#415
Dream has some of the best macro I've ever seen.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 06:45:59
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#416
On November 30 2013 15:45 Yhamm wrote:
lol scarlett is such a tier D foreigner

rofl. I see what you did there.

So, leo, is dream tier D there? That was quite brutal though. Looked away and he's already triple dropping while attacking the front. Love that style of terran.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Regorr
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#417
wow that was so fucking impressive gogo dream
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#418
Wow dream really sharpened up his play between games. That execution was amazing
My wife for hire! - Zealot
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
November 30 2013 06:45 GMT
#419
On November 30 2013 15:45 Squat wrote:
Dream has some of the best macro I've ever seen.


the impressive part is how hard he was macroing behind that drop harass
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
November 30 2013 06:46 GMT
#420
On November 30 2013 15:45 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 15:45 Yhamm wrote:
lol scarlett is such a tier D foreigner

rofl. I see what you did there.

So, leo, is dream tier D there?


i see where this is going
banelings
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