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[DreamHack] Winter 2013 Day 2 Knock Out Rounds - Page 59

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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 29 2013 15:37 GMT
#1161
On November 30 2013 00:36 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:33 Squat wrote:
I think we'll be seeing an JD vs Innovation rematch. JD should be able to beat any combination of TL/ForGG/JYP/Leenock/Nani, though Nani is by no means certain, and I really think Life will beat Innovation.

Does dream hack use extended series? How about the final, does the loser bracket guy have to win 2 bo's?


Dont think so and sure as hell hope not. I hate extended series. Just give the winnerbracket winner a cash prize instead
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12462 Posts
November 29 2013 15:38 GMT
#1162
On November 30 2013 00:37 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:33 Cereb wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:23 broodmann wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:22 Dark.Carnival wrote:
seems like an odd map to do that build on, also didn't help having the robo at the wall so it gets insta-scouted ;x


Sure, but if you aren't going to all-in, what do you do on that map?



DTs, Blink stalker all in, voids, pheonixes, fast third, warp prism into ramp force field, oracles, proxy, cannon rush....Basically anything other than a force field based strategy :p

It's still Zerg favored of course but it doesn't help to use the weakest strategy for the map.


...imo!


Any build that expands on that map is really super weak for Protoss. You can't forcefield(that's been established) and you can't defend at the bottom of the ramp because it gives your opponent a concave with the outlay of the map. Zerg has to let you have that base and just decide to basically be nice, or screw up horribly


I didn't get that impression when I watched Dear demolish Soulkey on it...
No will to live, no wish to die
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
November 29 2013 15:38 GMT
#1163
On November 30 2013 00:37 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:36 ThePlagueJG wrote:
Close games, always suck to see my favorite player lose, but thanfully he's not out yet atleast .

No worries, ForGG or Leenock will fix that problem.


Yeah by being nice and losing to NaNi ;D
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 29 2013 15:39 GMT
#1164
On November 30 2013 00:36 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:33 Squat wrote:
I think we'll be seeing an JD vs Innovation rematch. JD should be able to beat any combination of TL/ForGG/JYP/Leenock/Nani, though Nani is by no means certain, and I really think Life will beat Innovation.

Does dream hack use extended series? How about the final, does the loser bracket guy have to win 2 bo's?

I actually don't know, but I suspect not, it seemed to be an MLG only thing.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
November 29 2013 15:39 GMT
#1165
On November 30 2013 00:32 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:31 Spinoza wrote:
What do you guys think is the upper limit for TLO in this tournament? How far can he go considering he's got decent mechanics, reasonably good game sense and the wild-card unpredictability he is known for.


imo he can definitely beat JYP but I cant ever see him beating JD


I think so too and agree that hitting JD will be the end of the line unless, and this is highly unlikely, JD just does not give it his all. I don't think I have ever seen JD throw a game ever. He is an amazing player and seems to be the only one of the golden BW stock to still be relevant.

Can Jaedong really win the whole thing?
FanTaSy | Flash | Movie | Leta | Stork | Map:Destination[BW]
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 29 2013 15:40 GMT
#1166
TLO out in about 30 min
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 15:41:57
November 29 2013 15:41 GMT
#1167
On November 30 2013 00:36 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:33 Squat wrote:
I think we'll be seeing an JD vs Innovation rematch. JD should be able to beat any combination of TL/ForGG/JYP/Leenock/Nani, though Nani is by no means certain, and I really think Life will beat Innovation.

Does dream hack use extended series? How about the final, does the loser bracket guy have to win 2 bo's?


I would guess two series for the player from the lower. I think that's the standard for a double elimination.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16840 Posts
November 29 2013 15:41 GMT
#1168
On November 30 2013 00:38 ThePlagueJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:37 Wintex wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:36 ThePlagueJG wrote:
Close games, always suck to see my favorite player lose, but thanfully he's not out yet atleast .

No worries, ForGG or Leenock will fix that problem.


Yeah by being nice and losing to NaNi ;D

So naive.
The Bomber boy
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
November 29 2013 15:41 GMT
#1169
On November 30 2013 00:40 Noonius wrote:
TLO out in about 30 min


Let's hope not though ...
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
November 29 2013 15:41 GMT
#1170
On November 30 2013 00:39 Spinoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:32 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:31 Spinoza wrote:
What do you guys think is the upper limit for TLO in this tournament? How far can he go considering he's got decent mechanics, reasonably good game sense and the wild-card unpredictability he is known for.


imo he can definitely beat JYP but I cant ever see him beating JD


I think so too and agree that hitting JD will be the end of the line unless, and this is highly unlikely, JD just does not give it his all. I don't think I have ever seen JD throw a game ever. He is an amazing player and seems to be the only one of the golden BW stock to still be relevant.

Can Jaedong really win the whole thing?


Wel Jeadong was called Jaethrow some time ago so you missed quite some PL games

But i want him to trumps Life in the final.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10116 Posts
November 29 2013 15:42 GMT
#1171
On November 30 2013 00:41 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:38 ThePlagueJG wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:37 Wintex wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:36 ThePlagueJG wrote:
Close games, always suck to see my favorite player lose, but thanfully he's not out yet atleast .

No worries, ForGG or Leenock will fix that problem.


Yeah by being nice and losing to NaNi ;D

So naive.

he has a decent chance though
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 29 2013 15:42 GMT
#1172
On November 30 2013 00:39 Spinoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:32 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:31 Spinoza wrote:
What do you guys think is the upper limit for TLO in this tournament? How far can he go considering he's got decent mechanics, reasonably good game sense and the wild-card unpredictability he is known for.


imo he can definitely beat JYP but I cant ever see him beating JD


I think so too and agree that hitting JD will be the end of the line unless, and this is highly unlikely, JD just does not give it his all. I don't think I have ever seen JD throw a game ever. He is an amazing player and seems to be the only one of the golden BW stock to still be relevant.

Can Jaedong really win the whole thing?


TLO does have some funky moves so you never really know I guess but you are right about JD always giving it his best. Even though im a taeja/forgg/leenock/nani fanboy at heart I will be rooting for JD to take this DH. Something about the look on his face. Feels like he is looking at me and will round kick my head off if I defy him. Im rooting for him out of fear
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
November 29 2013 15:42 GMT
#1173
On November 30 2013 00:41 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:38 ThePlagueJG wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:37 Wintex wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:36 ThePlagueJG wrote:
Close games, always suck to see my favorite player lose, but thanfully he's not out yet atleast .

No worries, ForGG or Leenock will fix that problem.


Yeah by being nice and losing to NaNi ;D

So naive.


This guy wants to kill esports
Im better than Stefan
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12462 Posts
November 29 2013 15:42 GMT
#1174
On November 30 2013 00:39 Spinoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:32 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:31 Spinoza wrote:
What do you guys think is the upper limit for TLO in this tournament? How far can he go considering he's got decent mechanics, reasonably good game sense and the wild-card unpredictability he is known for.


imo he can definitely beat JYP but I cant ever see him beating JD


I don't think I have ever seen JD throw a game ever.


Seriously?
No will to live, no wish to die
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 29 2013 15:43 GMT
#1175
On November 30 2013 00:39 Spinoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:32 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:31 Spinoza wrote:
What do you guys think is the upper limit for TLO in this tournament? How far can he go considering he's got decent mechanics, reasonably good game sense and the wild-card unpredictability he is known for.


imo he can definitely beat JYP but I cant ever see him beating JD


I think so too and agree that hitting JD will be the end of the line unless, and this is highly unlikely, JD just does not give it his all. I don't think I have ever seen JD throw a game ever. He is an amazing player and seems to be the only one of the golden BW stock to still be relevant.

Can Jaedong really win the whole thing?

I see it as not beyond reason, but still quite unlikely. This tournament has several players who have defeated him rather handily in the past. This does not mean, as some of the less rational members of this site have suggested, that he is not a top tier zerg.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
November 29 2013 15:43 GMT
#1176
On November 30 2013 00:41 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:36 Zenbrez wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:33 Squat wrote:
I think we'll be seeing an JD vs Innovation rematch. JD should be able to beat any combination of TL/ForGG/JYP/Leenock/Nani, though Nani is by no means certain, and I really think Life will beat Innovation.

Does dream hack use extended series? How about the final, does the loser bracket guy have to win 2 bo's?


I would guess two series for the player from the lower. I think that's the standard for a double elimination.

According to liquipedia:
"Loser's Finals is Best-of-5 and Grand Finals is best-of-7 with no advantage for the Winner Bracket finalist."
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 29 2013 15:43 GMT
#1177
Wtf! Another white dude on the main stage on day two! What is this madness?
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
November 29 2013 15:44 GMT
#1178
On November 30 2013 00:41 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:39 Spinoza wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:32 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:31 Spinoza wrote:
What do you guys think is the upper limit for TLO in this tournament? How far can he go considering he's got decent mechanics, reasonably good game sense and the wild-card unpredictability he is known for.


imo he can definitely beat JYP but I cant ever see him beating JD


I think so too and agree that hitting JD will be the end of the line unless, and this is highly unlikely, JD just does not give it his all. I don't think I have ever seen JD throw a game ever. He is an amazing player and seems to be the only one of the golden BW stock to still be relevant.

Can Jaedong really win the whole thing?


Wel Jeadong was called Jaethrow some time ago so you missed quite some PL games

But i want him to trumps Life in the final.


Thanks for taking me down a notch (he did look somewhat shakey in some PL games), but yeah I soo want him to win against Life. Silly me.
FanTaSy | Flash | Movie | Leta | Stork | Map:Destination[BW]
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 29 2013 15:45 GMT
#1179
On November 30 2013 00:37 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 00:33 Cereb wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:23 broodmann wrote:
On November 30 2013 00:22 Dark.Carnival wrote:
seems like an odd map to do that build on, also didn't help having the robo at the wall so it gets insta-scouted ;x


Sure, but if you aren't going to all-in, what do you do on that map?



DTs, Blink stalker all in, voids, pheonixes, fast third, warp prism into ramp force field, oracles, proxy, cannon rush....Basically anything other than a force field based strategy :p

It's still Zerg favored of course but it doesn't help to use the weakest strategy for the map.


...imo!


Any build that expands on that map is really super weak for Protoss. You can't forcefield(that's been established) and you can't defend at the bottom of the ramp because it gives your opponent a concave with the outlay of the map. Zerg has to let you have that base and just decide to basically be nice, or screw up horribly


The third is pretty alright to wall off and defend with cannons, but it is of course still z favored =)
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 29 2013 15:45 GMT
#1180
On November 30 2013 00:43 Cereb wrote:
Wtf! Another white dude on the main stage on day two! What is this madness?


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