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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
November 29 2013 21:32 GMT
#2621
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bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 29 2013 21:32 GMT
#2622
On November 30 2013 06:28 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:26 bourne117 wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:23 Noc- wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:19 Davkaus wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:17 monkybone wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:14 Noc- wrote:
On November 30 2013 05:42 Musicus wrote:
What did you guys do to Goswser? I wasn't here for his games, but he seems upset.



Lmao this guy really wants to be a crybaby. Serious mental problems I believe.

https://twitter.com/Millgoswser

I mean just look at his tweets. Not a surprise he isnt winning shit with thinking like that. How about manning the shit up and growing some balls. I dont mean to be rude, thats just an advice. First, ignore reddit trolls and else. (not me lol)


Crying about what reddit says... that's sad

incontrol actually dealt with the reddit morons properly



There was one guy who posted that SoS made Goswser look like he was in diamond. He wasn't trashtalking Goswser, just highlighting the evident gulf in class.

Performers need to have a thick skin, making a huge deal out of such tame criticism makes him look like a drama queen.


I guess Goswser doesnt care. Now he is just whining of Koreans and foreigners not having a chance, infrastructure and shit. Lmao.

Can someone explain to me how the infrastructure is suppose to be the cause of a massive difference in pure mechanics? Like the difference between a Korean Terran and a foreign terran is just absurd because of this.

A ladder game vs Soulkey is not the same as a game vs Starbuck.

I get that. But pure mechanics are the same regardless of who you are playing. Watching Taeja or Innovation then watching some foreign terran you just see a MASSIVE difference in that. You can work on dropping in 2-3 places at once regardless of who you are playing or work on any other mechanic. That was my point.
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MiraMax
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany532 Posts
November 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#2623
On November 30 2013 06:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On November 30 2013 06:24 MiraMax wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:20 Darkhoarse wrote:
So just wondering, why is it called a "consolidation final" instead of a "consolation final"?


Isn't a consolation final the match for 3rd/4th place?

Yes. And that's what it is haha.


Really? I thought the winner of the consolidation final still has a shot to win it all!?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#2624
On November 30 2013 06:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:20 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:18 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:18 Maghetti wrote:
Great, the winners final between two of the main people I was rooting against and all 3 of the people im rooting for now crammed into the losers.

But but... your tag is Slayers.

He wanted to change it to ZeNEX i think.

But then Life though.

Life was ZeNEX's ace, ffs.

I'm aware.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#2625
Go TaeJa
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
November 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#2626
On November 30 2013 06:30 ANLProbe wrote:
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On November 30 2013 06:25 HeadlessWonder wrote:
Fuck Inno why did you have to go and lose to Life?
TaeJa can beat you! I don't know if he has ever beaten Life. Life was the end of the summer of TaeJa last year.
Let's hope it's different in 2013.

Taeja is 14-8 against Life.

Oh man! Didn't know that. I just remember last year as Life rose he beat Taeja a lot as he rose to best player in the world and Taeja declined. Thanks for breaking out the stats and setting me straight :D
CIS Doto
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 21:33:48
November 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#2627
On November 30 2013 06:32 shid0x wrote:
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On November 30 2013 06:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:23 shid0x wrote:
Life please,i can't take anymore of no soul taeja winning.
please please please.

Not a fan of the clap?


The image he left me after winning HSC is something i take as offensive as an sc2 fan, stephano played for money too but at least he gave us a show.


so because incontrol likes to make fun of people you don't like taeja?

there was nothing wrong with his reaction, he's in a room with only him and the guy he just beat easily 4-0.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#2628
Please Taeja surprise me and take out Life..
The curse is real
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#2629
On November 30 2013 06:33 MiraMax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:24 MiraMax wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:20 Darkhoarse wrote:
So just wondering, why is it called a "consolidation final" instead of a "consolation final"?


Isn't a consolation final the match for 3rd/4th place?

Yes. And that's what it is haha.


Really? I thought the winner of the consolidation final still has a shot to win it all!?

The "consolidation final" on their bracket that they were showing on stream seemed to be a 3/4 match. I dunno
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#2630
On November 30 2013 06:29 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:27 Elite_ wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:23 Noc- wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:19 Davkaus wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:17 monkybone wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:14 Noc- wrote:
On November 30 2013 05:42 Musicus wrote:
What did you guys do to Goswser? I wasn't here for his games, but he seems upset.

https://twitter.com/Millgoswser/statuses/406521109052260352


Lmao this guy really wants to be a crybaby. Serious mental problems I believe.

https://twitter.com/Millgoswser

I mean just look at his tweets. Not a surprise he isnt winning shit with thinking like that. How about manning the shit up and growing some balls. I dont mean to be rude, thats just an advice. First, ignore reddit trolls and else. (not me lol)


Crying about what reddit says... that's sad

incontrol actually dealt with the reddit morons properly



There was one guy who posted that SoS made Goswser look like he was in diamond. He wasn't trashtalking Goswser, just highlighting the evident gulf in class.

Performers need to have a thick skin, making a huge deal out of such tame criticism makes him look like a drama queen.


I guess Goswser doesnt care. Now he is just whining of Koreans and foreigners not having a chance, infrastructure and shit. Lmao.





Doesn't Mill have a gaming house? I'm sure he is welcome there if he wants. In fact, didn't he train there for a while?

He lives in the gaming house, he's just a crybaby...

Training with EU/NA pro's won't get you up the level of koreans, you need to train on the Korean server, to do that you have to train in Korea.

And to do that, you need to have people willing to send you there.

Or you could get a real job and buy a ticket yourself.

I've said it before, everyone who works in esports in any capacity should spend at least 6-8 months working any regular fucking job to learn what is actually expected in the adult world, and get some perspective on just how lucky they are that they can even do this full time on the the first place.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 29 2013 21:34 GMT
#2631
On November 30 2013 06:33 MiraMax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:24 MiraMax wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:20 Darkhoarse wrote:
So just wondering, why is it called a "consolidation final" instead of a "consolation final"?


Isn't a consolation final the match for 3rd/4th place?

Yes. And that's what it is haha.


Really? I thought the winner of the consolidation final still has a shot to win it all!?


It's the "consolidation final" because it consolidates the loser bracket with the winner bracket to produce the grand finals.

At least, that's what I think it is.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
November 29 2013 21:34 GMT
#2632
Hopefully this is going to be a sick match!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2013 21:34 GMT
#2633
On November 30 2013 06:32 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:23 shid0x wrote:
Life please,i can't take anymore of no soul taeja winning.
please please please.

Not a fan of the clap?


The image he left me after winning HSC is something i take offensive as an sc2 fan, stephano played for money too but at least he gave us a show.

He would've looked kind of douchey, making a big show in an empty room with no live audience after he ROLLED his opponent in the finals. He is much happier in front of a live audience.
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
November 29 2013 21:34 GMT
#2634
On November 30 2013 06:14 Noc- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 05:42 Musicus wrote:
What did you guys do to Goswser? I wasn't here for his games, but he seems upset.

https://twitter.com/Millgoswser/statuses/406521109052260352


Lmao this guy really wants to be a crybaby. Serious mental problems I believe.

https://twitter.com/Millgoswser

I mean just look at his tweets. Not a surprise he isnt winning shit with thinking like that. How about manning the shit up and growing some balls. I dont mean to be rude, thats just an advice. First, ignore reddit trolls and else. (not me lol)


Lol he has a terrible attitude reading his twitter. Excuses after excuses. Zero sympathy for a bm player like him.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 29 2013 21:35 GMT
#2635
On November 30 2013 06:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:30 ANLProbe wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:25 HeadlessWonder wrote:
Fuck Inno why did you have to go and lose to Life?
TaeJa can beat you! I don't know if he has ever beaten Life. Life was the end of the summer of TaeJa last year.
Let's hope it's different in 2013.

Taeja is 14-8 against Life.


Most of those wins coming before 2012, irrelevant to the discussion.

i sense a slight bias from TL writers.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 29 2013 21:35 GMT
#2636
Gogo Life!
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
November 29 2013 21:35 GMT
#2637
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SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
November 29 2013 21:35 GMT
#2638
On November 30 2013 06:33 Tobblish wrote:
Please Taeja surprise me and take out Life..


He will do it easy
-,-
Davkaus
Profile Joined October 2013
United Kingdom368 Posts
November 29 2013 21:36 GMT
#2639
On November 30 2013 06:32 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:31 Davkaus wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:29 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:27 Elite_ wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:23 Noc- wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:19 Davkaus wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:17 monkybone wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:14 Noc- wrote:
[quote]

Lmao this guy really wants to be a crybaby. Serious mental problems I believe.

https://twitter.com/Millgoswser

I mean just look at his tweets. Not a surprise he isnt winning shit with thinking like that. How about manning the shit up and growing some balls. I dont mean to be rude, thats just an advice. First, ignore reddit trolls and else. (not me lol)


Crying about what reddit says... that's sad

incontrol actually dealt with the reddit morons properly



There was one guy who posted that SoS made Goswser look like he was in diamond. He wasn't trashtalking Goswser, just highlighting the evident gulf in class.

Performers need to have a thick skin, making a huge deal out of such tame criticism makes him look like a drama queen.


I guess Goswser doesnt care. Now he is just whining of Koreans and foreigners not having a chance, infrastructure and shit. Lmao.

https://twitter.com/Millgoswser/status/406527053119254528

https://twitter.com/Millgoswser/status/406522451397312512


Doesn't Mill have a gaming house? I'm sure he is welcome there if he wants. In fact, didn't he train there for a while?

He lives in the gaming house, he's just a crybaby...

Training with EU/NA pro's won't get you up the level of koreans, you need to train on the Korean server, to do that you have to train in Korea.

And to do that, you need to have people willing to send you there.


Then he should be raising this with his team, or moving, not bitching about how unfair the world is on Twitter.

Frankly, he's not done anything to justify a team investing in sending him to Korea.

What do you have to do to justify that? Beat a bunch of Koreans? But isn't that what training in Korea is supposed to enable you to do? Sometimes you have to make an investment.


Many foreigners have done well without going to Korea, going on good runs in tournaments with Koreans in them, and in some cases have been sent to Korea on the back of this, after proving their worth.

Goswser in years of play has won $5k in prize money. I wouldn't pay to send him to Korea either.
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 29 2013 21:36 GMT
#2640
On November 30 2013 06:32 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 06:24 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 06:23 shid0x wrote:
Life please,i can't take anymore of no soul taeja winning.
please please please.

Not a fan of the clap?


The image he left me after winning HSC is something i take offensive as an sc2 fan, stephano played for money too but at least he gave us a show.

What image? Winning convincingly against an inferior opponent? Is he suppose to play down to his opponent?
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