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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
November 28 2013 20:33 GMT
#2501
Can't wait for Taeja vs forGG. :D
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 28 2013 20:33 GMT
#2502
I hope they don't wait 27 minutes.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
November 28 2013 20:34 GMT
#2503
Oh my... Out of the scene for a few months and yet still non stop balance whines. I hate protoss as much as anyone, but apparently our years of whining hasn't worked.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 28 2013 20:34 GMT
#2504
Taeja is in great spot for 1st place.. already 2-0 and he still has Sjow.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 28 2013 20:34 GMT
#2505
Well, Leenock's first hatchery starts when HerO's cannon and gateway are already started, nexus halfway through. Nice start there
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 28 2013 20:34 GMT
#2506
On November 29 2013 05:33 hipo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:30 Jer99 wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now?


Look at top elo on TL
Look at top elo on aligulac

????

He's been the best for a while

We will start including him in the conversation about best player in the world when he will win GSL :D

Innovation never won a GSL but was constantly called the best player in the world.
QO Feasting
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 28 2013 20:34 GMT
#2507
On November 29 2013 05:33 hipo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:30 Jer99 wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now?


Look at top elo on TL
Look at top elo on aligulac

????

He's been the best for a while

We will start including him in the conversation about best player in the world when he will win GSL :D


You don't have to win the GSL to be the best in the world. I don't think Taeja is it, though, but still.
AdministratorBreak the chains
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 20:36:44
November 28 2013 20:34 GMT
#2508
On November 29 2013 05:34 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Oh my... Out of the scene for a few months and yet still non stop balance whines. I hate protoss as much as anyone, but apparently our years of whining hasn't worked.

Well, they keep buffing Protoss

+ Show Spoiler +
Its a joke, dont complain pls
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 28 2013 20:34 GMT
#2509
On November 29 2013 05:33 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:30 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:26 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:25 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:23 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:21 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:21 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:19 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:16 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:14 Zebb wrote:
[quote]

Opening straight to templar is already risky imo. Doing so after building a robo is just asking to be run over by stim.

... Please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426047

Someone should send that article to sOs, I'm sure it'll be extremely useful to him!

sOs knows that you can perfectly play Templar first after robo.

Obviously, or he wouldn't have done it. Doesn't mean there is no risk.

There is no risk...

Then you don't understand the concept of risk.

You're the one not understanding why sOs lost. It had nothing to do with the old anthem of "Templar first is more unsafe than Colossus first," a myth proven wrong a long time ago.

Proven by who lol? It's a fact that Colossus openings are safer. Hell, recently on Meta Artosis asked some Protoss players about how they choose between Templar/Colossus openings and they all obviously said Colossus is safer. And I remember Parting saying in an interview a few months ago that he's started opening Templar because Classic helped him make Templar openings safer.

Must be why Templar first is the most common opening in top level PvT, HotS Protoss surely needs to take some risks to beat HotS Terran! But right, I should have phrased it more carefully: people used to say that it was not viable because it was too unsafe.

Ok
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 28 2013 20:35 GMT
#2510
On November 29 2013 05:31 hipo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:26 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:25 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:23 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:21 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:21 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:19 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:16 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:14 Zebb wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
How did sOs even manage to lose despite taking so little damage from TaeJa's 1-1-1 pressure?


Opening straight to templar is already risky imo. Doing so after building a robo is just asking to be run over by stim.

... Please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426047

Someone should send that article to sOs, I'm sure it'll be extremely useful to him!

sOs knows that you can perfectly play Templar first after robo.

Obviously, or he wouldn't have done it. Doesn't mean there is no risk.

There is no risk...

Then you don't understand the concept of risk.

You're the one not understanding why sOs lost. It had nothing to do with the old anthem of "Templar first is more unsafe than Colossus first," a myth proven wrong a long time ago.

I agree that templar first after Robot is 100% safe when going for only one forge, but isn't it a bit unsafe with double forge?
Everytime I try doing this kind of thing, I die like sOs did :D

Yes, the second forge is usually added later, no idea why sOs took that unnecessary risk. Could have simply played normal with his eco lead.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 20:36:14
November 28 2013 20:35 GMT
#2511
On November 29 2013 05:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Taeja is in great spot for 1st place.. already 2-0 and he still has Sjow.


It's a swede in a swedish tournament. It should be phrased:
...but he still has Sjow.

On November 29 2013 05:34 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:33 hipo wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:30 Jer99 wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now?


Look at top elo on TL
Look at top elo on aligulac

????

He's been the best for a while

We will start including him in the conversation about best player in the world when he will win GSL :D


You don't have to win the GSL to be the best in the world. I don't think Taeja is it, though, but still.


yeah. Though he is on Maru's tail for best Terran.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
November 28 2013 20:35 GMT
#2512
That spot from Kinston Hyper X was awesome
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 28 2013 20:36 GMT
#2513
25 min break?
Time for some Hearthstone
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 20:37:30
November 28 2013 20:36 GMT
#2514
HerO, is this a warp prism gateway attack off a stargate?

Ok, just playing super safe. I like it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
November 28 2013 20:37 GMT
#2515
On November 29 2013 05:35 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Taeja is in great spot for 1st place.. already 2-0 and he still has Sjow.


It's a swede in a swedish tournament. It should be phrased:
...but he still has Sjow.

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 05:34 Zealously wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:33 hipo wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:30 Jer99 wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now?


Look at top elo on TL
Look at top elo on aligulac

????

He's been the best for a while

We will start including him in the conversation about best player in the world when he will win GSL :D


You don't have to win the GSL to be the best in the world. I don't think Taeja is it, though, but still.


yeah. Though he is on Maru's tail for best Terran.

To most that don't follow SC2 much anymore we say 'when did sjow start playing again....' That's how good he must be lately. lol
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 28 2013 20:37 GMT
#2516
On November 29 2013 05:36 Noonius wrote:
25 min break?
Time for some Hearthstone

you could watch HerO vs Leenock game3
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
November 28 2013 20:38 GMT
#2517
TaeJa is the best team in the world.
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 28 2013 20:38 GMT
#2518
well, it looks grim for leenock already
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
November 28 2013 20:38 GMT
#2519
Taeja at his best is the best player imo along with Dear,
Go TAEJA
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 28 2013 20:39 GMT
#2520
On November 29 2013 05:38 ANLProbe wrote:
Taeja at his best is the best player imo along with Dear,


What about JD or Maru?
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