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On November 29 2013 05:26 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:25 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:23 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:21 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:21 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:19 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:16 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:14 Zebb wrote:On November 29 2013 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
How did sOs even manage to lose despite taking so little damage from TaeJa's 1-1-1 pressure? Opening straight to templar is already risky imo. Doing so after building a robo is just asking to be run over by stim. ... Please. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426047 Someone should send that article to sOs, I'm sure it'll be extremely useful to him! sOs knows that you can perfectly play Templar first after robo. Obviously, or he wouldn't have done it. Doesn't mean there is no risk. There is no risk... Then you don't understand the concept of risk. You're the one not understanding why sOs lost. It had nothing to do with the old anthem of "Templar first is more unsafe than Colossus first," a myth proven wrong a long time ago.
Proven by who lol? It's a fact that Colossus openings are safer. Hell, recently on Meta Artosis asked some Protoss players about how they choose between Templar/Colossus openings and they all obviously said Colossus is safer. And I remember Parting saying in an interview a few months ago that he's started opening Templar because Classic helped him make Templar openings safer.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On November 29 2013 05:29 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wow HerO is getting the worst possible map pool D: Whirlwind, Polar Night, Derelict Watcher D:
The hell did he veto? Summer and Fall.
He vetoed Fall DURING FALL? Is he mad or smth :D
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Canada8160 Posts
On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now?
Look at top elo on TL
Look at top elo on aligulac
????
He's been the best for a while
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On November 29 2013 05:28 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:26 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:25 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:23 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:21 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:21 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:19 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:16 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:14 Zebb wrote:On November 29 2013 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
How did sOs even manage to lose despite taking so little damage from TaeJa's 1-1-1 pressure? Opening straight to templar is already risky imo. Doing so after building a robo is just asking to be run over by stim. ... Please. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426047 Someone should send that article to sOs, I'm sure it'll be extremely useful to him! sOs knows that you can perfectly play Templar first after robo. Obviously, or he wouldn't have done it. Doesn't mean there is no risk. There is no risk... Then you don't understand the concept of risk. You're the one not understanding why sOs lost. It had nothing to do with the old anthem of "Templar first is more unsafe than Colossus first," a myth proven wrong a long time ago. Templar first with double forge after robo off 2 base is more unsafe than usual single forge collosi first though :D
Yes, the dual forge was odd, and overkill given that he was ahead from the openings.
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Fuck!! I've lost JD vs Goswer.
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Taeja doing his best to ruin this tournament for me. Defeating 2 of the 3 people in the entire event I care a lot about.
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Taeja with too much talent and skill
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On November 29 2013 05:30 Maghetti wrote:
Taeja doing his best to ruin this tournament for me. Defeating 2 of the 3 people in the entire event I care a lot about.
You should start to like Taeja
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On November 29 2013 05:26 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:25 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:23 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:21 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:21 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:19 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:16 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:14 Zebb wrote:On November 29 2013 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
How did sOs even manage to lose despite taking so little damage from TaeJa's 1-1-1 pressure? Opening straight to templar is already risky imo. Doing so after building a robo is just asking to be run over by stim. ... Please. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426047 Someone should send that article to sOs, I'm sure it'll be extremely useful to him! sOs knows that you can perfectly play Templar first after robo. Obviously, or he wouldn't have done it. Doesn't mean there is no risk. There is no risk... Then you don't understand the concept of risk. You're the one not understanding why sOs lost. It had nothing to do with the old anthem of "Templar first is more unsafe than Colossus first," a myth proven wrong a long time ago.
I agree that templar first after Robot is 100% safe when going for only one forge, but isn't it a bit unsafe with double forge?
Everytime I try doing this kind of thing, I die like sOs did :D
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On November 29 2013 05:29 BakedButters wrote:
sOs doesn't seem as good in PvT as Dear
He really isn't. Dear is probably the best PvT player in the world and probably the best Toss also. And going against the best TvP in the world isn't going to held sOs that much.
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On November 29 2013 05:30 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now? Look at top elo on TL Look at top elo on aligulac ???? He's been the best for a while
Surely you are completely unbiased
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On November 29 2013 05:31 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:30 Maghetti wrote:
Taeja doing his best to ruin this tournament for me. Defeating 2 of the 3 people in the entire event I care a lot about. You should start to like Taeja
To be honest I'm starting to haha. Such amazing micro and decision making..
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On November 29 2013 05:30 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now? Look at top elo on TL Look at top elo on aligulac ???? He's been the best for a while
No I completely agree with you. Just almost every time people talk about it he is consistently ignored. This has been happening for a really long time going all the way back to last year.
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On November 29 2013 05:31 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:30 Jer99 wrote:On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now? Look at top elo on TL Look at top elo on aligulac ???? He's been the best for a while Surely you are completely unbiased
Just don't look at my sig
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On November 29 2013 05:30 Maghetti wrote:
Taeja doing his best to ruin this tournament for me. Defeating 2 of the 3 people in the entire event I care a lot about.
he defeated 2 lesser players and he did it with ease because he is extremely talented.
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On November 29 2013 05:30 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:29 bourne117 wrote:
So can we start including Taeja in the conversation of best in the world now? Look at top elo on TL Look at top elo on aligulac ???? He's been the best for a while
We will start including him in the conversation about best player in the world when he will win GSL :D
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On November 29 2013 05:30 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:26 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:25 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:23 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:21 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:21 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:19 ZAiNs wrote:On November 29 2013 05:16 TheDwf wrote:On November 29 2013 05:14 Zebb wrote:On November 29 2013 05:13 TheDwf wrote:
How did sOs even manage to lose despite taking so little damage from TaeJa's 1-1-1 pressure? Opening straight to templar is already risky imo. Doing so after building a robo is just asking to be run over by stim. ... Please. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426047 Someone should send that article to sOs, I'm sure it'll be extremely useful to him! sOs knows that you can perfectly play Templar first after robo. Obviously, or he wouldn't have done it. Doesn't mean there is no risk. There is no risk... Then you don't understand the concept of risk. You're the one not understanding why sOs lost. It had nothing to do with the old anthem of "Templar first is more unsafe than Colossus first," a myth proven wrong a long time ago. Proven by who lol? It's a fact that Colossus openings are safer. Hell, recently on Meta Artosis asked some Protoss players about how they choose between Templar/Colossus openings and they all obviously said Colossus is safer. And I remember Parting saying in an interview a few months ago that he's started opening Templar because Classic helped him make Templar openings safer.
Must be why Templar first is the most common opening in top level PvT, HotS Protoss surely needs to take some risks to beat HotS Terran! But right, I should have phrased it more carefully: people used to say that it was not viable because it was too unsafe.
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