On November 17 2013 03:21 TheDwf wrote:
Another 2-bases blink, what a surprise.
Another 2-bases blink, what a surprise.
That map screams at you until you do a blink all in
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:21 TheDwf wrote: Another 2-bases blink, what a surprise. That map screams at you until you do a blink all in | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:21 Everlong wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:20 Xoronius wrote: On November 17 2013 03:18 magnaflow wrote: ToD, The Avilo of Protoss, blames everything on balance, but plays like shit every game There is a difference between a mid-master player, who plays without healthbars and someone, who can beat MC in a mirror MU. tbh avilo is GM level player.. So at least don't speak your ass off just like that. Using and not using health-bars is completely personal preference, why would you try to discredit anyone because of this? Makes no sense.. The supreme insult: look, he doesn't even use health bars! How low one has to be to play like that! | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:20 KalWarkov wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:17 Zealously wrote: On November 17 2013 03:16 TheOne26 wrote: On November 17 2013 03:13 KalWarkov wrote: On November 17 2013 03:09 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 03:09 NovaMB wrote: Yoan Merlo @ToDsc2 18s hey i'm geting owned, let's make mass static defense and turtle until i get an unbeatable army yay !!!!! Come on ToD :/ Protoss complaining about lategame TvP, how hilarious. lol that comment. after 1 year of happy winning every lategame tvp that went to it on even terams, terrans still dont realize that lategame is total T dominance? you cannot beat 20 ghost 20 viking 20 medivac army with massscans to kill observers. the one thing that comes closest to beat or at least fight evenly with it is mass oracle for revelation with lots of tempests and storm+cannons to fall back on. the early and especially midgame is where you have a point of P arguably being stronger, since the protoss army naturally grows stronger adding colossus and storm for their first max - terrans kind of have to max out on mmm viking/ghost first while having a hard time transitioning into their superarmy of doom. so happy can beat eu protoss players in the late game for a year = terran stronger than toss in late game...sick logic. plz come back when you see players like maru/innovation play late game oriented tvp and win consistently rather than focus around 3 base scv pulls. pro tip: that will never happen because protoss will always win in the late game if terran does not have an advantage coming out of the midgame. I love how you're mentioning Maru here oh you mean maru who never transitions out of MMM and drops till he wins or dies? ye, good example. Happy would win about 80% of lategame TvP if it came to the ghost viking medivac stage as well. the problem is that even Happy would die before ever getting to it in almost every game against top korean P's. we talked about very lategame, nothing else. No, I mean the Maru who beat Rain in a straight-up engagement and made it look fairly easy. Sure, they weren't at the 3/3/3 ultra late-game stage, but he's one of the guys that do win even when his opponents go into colossi/HT because he's pretty good at the game. Taeja is also one of those, although he is significantly better at actually building other things than just MMM. | ||
KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:21 BlackCompany wrote: Titan beating Sympbol would be really cool, we might avoid 7 korean/1 foreigner ro8. HSC somehow always is foreigner teretory cool that u say 6 koreans 2 foreigners is "foreigner terretory" :D Dont forget Scarlett! | ||
Butterz
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Nebuchad
Switzerland11916 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:18 magnaflow wrote: ToD, The Avilo of Protoss, blames everything on balance, but plays like shit every game Why do haters always feel the urge to state the same thing in five posts instead of one? What benefit do you get out of that? | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:21 NMxhendralisk wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:21 DrPandaPhD wrote: On November 17 2013 03:20 purgerinho wrote: symbol has big problems in zvp :/ Don't think it's just Symbol 2base protoss vs zerg in general is quite effective Ret, is that you? | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:21 magnaflow wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:20 Xoronius wrote: On November 17 2013 03:18 magnaflow wrote: ToD, The Avilo of Protoss, blames everything on balance, but plays like shit every game There is a difference between a mid-master player, who plays without healthbars and someone, who can beat MC in a mirror MU. PvP, where a caster can beat a pro MC casted games too you know. | ||
JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:21 Everlong wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:20 Xoronius wrote: On November 17 2013 03:18 magnaflow wrote: ToD, The Avilo of Protoss, blames everything on balance, but plays like shit every game There is a difference between a mid-master player, who plays without healthbars and someone, who can beat MC in a mirror MU. tbh avilo is GM level player.. So at least don't speak your ass off just like that. Using and not using health-bars is completely personal preference, why would you try to discredit anyone because of this? Makes no sense.. Maybe I should´nt base my analysis on Catz twitter. However, the point is, ToD is leagues above avilo. | ||
Makro
France16890 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:23 Nebuchad wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:18 magnaflow wrote: ToD, The Avilo of Protoss, blames everything on balance, but plays like shit every game Why do haters always feel the urge to state the same thing in five posts instead of one? What benefit do you get out of that? Bad arguments only gain weight if they say the same thing over and over again. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:22 KalWarkov wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:21 BlackCompany wrote: Titan beating Sympbol would be really cool, we might avoid 7 korean/1 foreigner ro8. HSC somehow always is foreigner teretory cool that u say 6 koreans 2 foreigners is "foreigner terretory" :D Dont forget Scarlett! Haha, yeah, i was talking about top 3/4 though ![]() Always foreigners in it! And with Titan beating Symbol we would have 5/3 guaranteed, which is pretty good considering which koreans are going to be eliminated | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
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TheOne26
Australia142 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:21 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:20 TheOne26 wrote: On November 17 2013 03:17 Zealously wrote: On November 17 2013 03:16 TheOne26 wrote: On November 17 2013 03:13 KalWarkov wrote: On November 17 2013 03:09 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 03:09 NovaMB wrote: Yoan Merlo @ToDsc2 18s hey i'm geting owned, let's make mass static defense and turtle until i get an unbeatable army yay !!!!! Come on ToD :/ Protoss complaining about lategame TvP, how hilarious. lol that comment. after 1 year of happy winning every lategame tvp that went to it on even terams, terrans still dont realize that lategame is total T dominance? you cannot beat 20 ghost 20 viking 20 medivac army with massscans to kill observers. the one thing that comes closest to beat or at least fight evenly with it is mass oracle for revelation with lots of tempests and storm+cannons to fall back on. the early and especially midgame is where you have a point of P arguably being stronger, since the protoss army naturally grows stronger adding colossus and storm for their first max - terrans kind of have to max out on mmm viking/ghost first while having a hard time transitioning into their superarmy of doom. so happy can beat eu protoss players in the late game for a year = terran stronger than toss in late game...sick logic. plz come back when you see players like maru/innovation play late game oriented tvp and win consistently rather than focus around 3 base scv pulls. pro tip: that will never happen because protoss will always win in the late game if terran does not have an advantage coming out of the midgame. I love how you're mentioning Maru here thats wrong with maru? my bff marineking is gone and he is the closest replacement ![]() Maru hasn't played a late game TvP since his finals against Rain, and it wasn't even that late. there is a reason for that, because he doesn't want to play to the late game. i only mentioned maru because i consider him one of the top terrans. i could mention taeja since he plays similar late game oriented tvp with nice ghost play...but then again thats why hes not a tvp monster like maru because its just too hard to pull off vs a strong toss than can abuse their late game strength to full potential. | ||
Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:22 TheDwf wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:21 Everlong wrote: On November 17 2013 03:20 Xoronius wrote: On November 17 2013 03:18 magnaflow wrote: ToD, The Avilo of Protoss, blames everything on balance, but plays like shit every game There is a difference between a mid-master player, who plays without healthbars and someone, who can beat MC in a mirror MU. tbh avilo is GM level player.. So at least don't speak your ass off just like that. Using and not using health-bars is completely personal preference, why would you try to discredit anyone because of this? Makes no sense.. The supreme insult: look, he doesn't even use health bars! How low one has to be to play like that! Dude, like I said, I was influenced by catz to much there and heated up about the wrong comparism. But you have got to admit, that those stories about running away 6 helions from a 1-hp queen are pretty funny. | ||
Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On November 17 2013 03:24 Xoronius wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 03:21 Everlong wrote: On November 17 2013 03:20 Xoronius wrote: On November 17 2013 03:18 magnaflow wrote: ToD, The Avilo of Protoss, blames everything on balance, but plays like shit every game There is a difference between a mid-master player, who plays without healthbars and someone, who can beat MC in a mirror MU. tbh avilo is GM level player.. So at least don't speak your ass off just like that. Using and not using health-bars is completely personal preference, why would you try to discredit anyone because of this? Makes no sense.. Maybe I should´nt base my analysis on Catz twitter. However, the point is, ToD is leagues above avilo. Yes, I would suggest you don't do that.. And yes, ToD is obviously better then avilo. | ||
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