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On November 14 2013 09:30 MrSexington wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 09:20 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:13 Vertigro wrote:On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist. You're an idiot... and what's worse, you're an idiot throwing around some pretty serious terms. TB is simply creating an american tournament, much in the same way that the WCS of old only allowed people of one nationality to compete per event. Be happy that he's doing something to cultivate a scene which as of recently, hasn't had much of a spotlight. Moron. Says the guy using insults, I lol'd. I think you fail to see my point. I don't like the idea of an "only x nationality" tournament. Just because koreans are better does not mean that the solution is to exclude them. To say to somebody "you can't play because you dont live in country x" is about as racist as it gets to me. Thats like saying that mexicans can't immigrate to the US oh wait. Maybe in the states you think it's cool to have only americans shit. But I'd much rather see NA players practicing their asses off and actually beating koreans, you know doing what naniwa does to make themselves relevant and grow their scene. Not get their own little tournament so they can actually be in the spotlight by removing all competition. But we have to grow no matter what right? Because our game has to have the biggest dick. @Darkhoarse: I couldn't care less what TB uses. I don't understand why it is fine to like this while it's apparently bad to express not liking it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion cause it's not supportive of the event? No backup? To tell somebody "you can't play cause you live in korea/poland/china or w.e." is racist to me. I don't know what it is to you. Racist, really. Are we going there? Not all tournaments have to be the same. There is plenty of room for all kinds of tournaments. Do you consider a tournament for female gamers to be sexist?
Of course I do.
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On November 14 2013 09:32 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 09:30 MrSexington wrote:On November 14 2013 09:20 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:13 Vertigro wrote:On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist. You're an idiot... and what's worse, you're an idiot throwing around some pretty serious terms. TB is simply creating an american tournament, much in the same way that the WCS of old only allowed people of one nationality to compete per event. Be happy that he's doing something to cultivate a scene which as of recently, hasn't had much of a spotlight. Moron. Says the guy using insults, I lol'd. I think you fail to see my point. I don't like the idea of an "only x nationality" tournament. Just because koreans are better does not mean that the solution is to exclude them. To say to somebody "you can't play because you dont live in country x" is about as racist as it gets to me. Thats like saying that mexicans can't immigrate to the US oh wait. Maybe in the states you think it's cool to have only americans shit. But I'd much rather see NA players practicing their asses off and actually beating koreans, you know doing what naniwa does to make themselves relevant and grow their scene. Not get their own little tournament so they can actually be in the spotlight by removing all competition. But we have to grow no matter what right? Because our game has to have the biggest dick. @Darkhoarse: I couldn't care less what TB uses. I don't understand why it is fine to like this while it's apparently bad to express not liking it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion cause it's not supportive of the event? No backup? To tell somebody "you can't play cause you live in korea/poland/china or w.e." is racist to me. I don't know what it is to you. Racist, really. Are we going there? Not all tournaments have to be the same. There is plenty of room for all kinds of tournaments. Do you consider a tournament for female gamers to be sexist? Of course I do.
If I held a tournament for California residents only, would you be upset that the people of Texes were being discriminated against?
If I held a tournament for UC Berkeley students only, would you be upset that Stanford students were being discriminated against?
You're grasping at straws.
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Hey everybody!
I'm Jesse, and I'm part of the marketing team with Ting. If anyone has any questions about Ting, feel free to ask away or send me an email (jesse@ting.com).
We're really excited to support SC2 and the eSports scene! A few of us at Ting are diehard StarCraft 2 fans, and feel this is the perfect partnership for everybody involved. I'm interested to see who gets those 7 spots...gonna be a tight race!
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On November 14 2013 09:20 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 09:13 Vertigro wrote:On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist. You're an idiot... and what's worse, you're an idiot throwing around some pretty serious terms. TB is simply creating an american tournament, much in the same way that the WCS of old only allowed people of one nationality to compete per event. Be happy that he's doing something to cultivate a scene which as of recently, hasn't had much of a spotlight. Moron. @Darkhoarse: I couldn't care less what TB uses. I don't understand why it is fine to like this while it's apparently bad to express not liking it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion cause it's not supportive of the event? No backup? To tell somebody "you can't play cause you live in korea/poland/china or w.e." is racist to me. I don't know what it is to you.
It's really, REALLY not. Are the commonwealth games racist? Is the Paralympics racist? Is the Ryder Cup racist? No, but they are events that require prerequisites for entry based on either nationality or physical ability. Are you as angry about the Finnish Starcraft League? or do you just simply have an axe to grind with TB? It’s fine to have an opinion, but the reasons for yours makes you look very foolish.
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On November 14 2013 09:36 MrSexington wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 09:32 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:30 MrSexington wrote:On November 14 2013 09:20 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:13 Vertigro wrote:On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist. You're an idiot... and what's worse, you're an idiot throwing around some pretty serious terms. TB is simply creating an american tournament, much in the same way that the WCS of old only allowed people of one nationality to compete per event. Be happy that he's doing something to cultivate a scene which as of recently, hasn't had much of a spotlight. Moron. Says the guy using insults, I lol'd. I think you fail to see my point. I don't like the idea of an "only x nationality" tournament. Just because koreans are better does not mean that the solution is to exclude them. To say to somebody "you can't play because you dont live in country x" is about as racist as it gets to me. Thats like saying that mexicans can't immigrate to the US oh wait. Maybe in the states you think it's cool to have only americans shit. But I'd much rather see NA players practicing their asses off and actually beating koreans, you know doing what naniwa does to make themselves relevant and grow their scene. Not get their own little tournament so they can actually be in the spotlight by removing all competition. But we have to grow no matter what right? Because our game has to have the biggest dick. @Darkhoarse: I couldn't care less what TB uses. I don't understand why it is fine to like this while it's apparently bad to express not liking it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion cause it's not supportive of the event? No backup? To tell somebody "you can't play cause you live in korea/poland/china or w.e." is racist to me. I don't know what it is to you. Racist, really. Are we going there? Not all tournaments have to be the same. There is plenty of room for all kinds of tournaments. Do you consider a tournament for female gamers to be sexist? Of course I do. If I held a tournament for California residents only, would you be upset that the people of Texes were being discriminated against? If I held a tournament for UC Berkeley students only, would you be upset that Stanford students were being discriminated against? You're grasping at straws.
I don't think you understand my point at all but tbh apparently my views are wrong and as people are asking for me to get banned (I lol'd please keep it up) I'll just shut up and let you enjoy what you apparently think of as positive as other views are apparently not wanted.
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On November 14 2013 09:05 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist. OH NOES, THE SABOTAGE MY EVENT IS LITERALLY FALLING DOWN AROUND ME
This response is pure gold. xD
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On November 14 2013 09:38 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 09:36 MrSexington wrote:On November 14 2013 09:32 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:30 MrSexington wrote:On November 14 2013 09:20 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:13 Vertigro wrote:On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist. You're an idiot... and what's worse, you're an idiot throwing around some pretty serious terms. TB is simply creating an american tournament, much in the same way that the WCS of old only allowed people of one nationality to compete per event. Be happy that he's doing something to cultivate a scene which as of recently, hasn't had much of a spotlight. Moron. Says the guy using insults, I lol'd. I think you fail to see my point. I don't like the idea of an "only x nationality" tournament. Just because koreans are better does not mean that the solution is to exclude them. To say to somebody "you can't play because you dont live in country x" is about as racist as it gets to me. Thats like saying that mexicans can't immigrate to the US oh wait. Maybe in the states you think it's cool to have only americans shit. But I'd much rather see NA players practicing their asses off and actually beating koreans, you know doing what naniwa does to make themselves relevant and grow their scene. Not get their own little tournament so they can actually be in the spotlight by removing all competition. But we have to grow no matter what right? Because our game has to have the biggest dick. @Darkhoarse: I couldn't care less what TB uses. I don't understand why it is fine to like this while it's apparently bad to express not liking it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion cause it's not supportive of the event? No backup? To tell somebody "you can't play cause you live in korea/poland/china or w.e." is racist to me. I don't know what it is to you. Racist, really. Are we going there? Not all tournaments have to be the same. There is plenty of room for all kinds of tournaments. Do you consider a tournament for female gamers to be sexist? Of course I do. If I held a tournament for California residents only, would you be upset that the people of Texes were being discriminated against? If I held a tournament for UC Berkeley students only, would you be upset that Stanford students were being discriminated against? You're grasping at straws. I don't think you understand my point at all but tbh apparently my views are wrong and as people are asking for me to get banned (I lol'd please keep it up) I'll just shut up and let you enjoy what you apparently think of as positive as other views are apparently not wanted.
So the answer is 'no.'
Gotcha.
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On November 14 2013 09:36 ActionJesse wrote:
Hey everybody!
I'm Jesse, and I'm part of the marketing team with Ting. If anyone has any questions about Ting, feel free to ask away or send me an email (jesse@ting.com).
We're really excited to support SC2 and the eSports scene! A few of us at Ting are diehard StarCraft 2 fans, and feel this is the perfect partnership for everybody involved. I'm interested to see who gets those 7 spots...gonna be a tight race!
Thanks for supporting the event.
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le totalcynicaltophat face
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On November 14 2013 09:38 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 09:36 MrSexington wrote:On November 14 2013 09:32 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:30 MrSexington wrote:On November 14 2013 09:20 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:13 Vertigro wrote:On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist. You're an idiot... and what's worse, you're an idiot throwing around some pretty serious terms. TB is simply creating an american tournament, much in the same way that the WCS of old only allowed people of one nationality to compete per event. Be happy that he's doing something to cultivate a scene which as of recently, hasn't had much of a spotlight. Moron. Says the guy using insults, I lol'd. I think you fail to see my point. I don't like the idea of an "only x nationality" tournament. Just because koreans are better does not mean that the solution is to exclude them. To say to somebody "you can't play because you dont live in country x" is about as racist as it gets to me. Thats like saying that mexicans can't immigrate to the US oh wait. Maybe in the states you think it's cool to have only americans shit. But I'd much rather see NA players practicing their asses off and actually beating koreans, you know doing what naniwa does to make themselves relevant and grow their scene. Not get their own little tournament so they can actually be in the spotlight by removing all competition. But we have to grow no matter what right? Because our game has to have the biggest dick. @Darkhoarse: I couldn't care less what TB uses. I don't understand why it is fine to like this while it's apparently bad to express not liking it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion cause it's not supportive of the event? No backup? To tell somebody "you can't play cause you live in korea/poland/china or w.e." is racist to me. I don't know what it is to you. Racist, really. Are we going there? Not all tournaments have to be the same. There is plenty of room for all kinds of tournaments. Do you consider a tournament for female gamers to be sexist? Of course I do. If I held a tournament for California residents only, would you be upset that the people of Texes were being discriminated against? If I held a tournament for UC Berkeley students only, would you be upset that Stanford students were being discriminated against? You're grasping at straws. I don't think you understand my point at all but tbh apparently my views are wrong and as people are asking for me to get banned (I lol'd please keep it up) I'll just shut up and let you enjoy what you apparently think of as positive as other views are apparently not wanted.
Well, at least you can start by CEASING being factually wrong.
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On November 14 2013 09:38 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 09:36 MrSexington wrote:On November 14 2013 09:32 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:30 MrSexington wrote:On November 14 2013 09:20 Lorch wrote:On November 14 2013 09:13 Vertigro wrote:On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist. You're an idiot... and what's worse, you're an idiot throwing around some pretty serious terms. TB is simply creating an american tournament, much in the same way that the WCS of old only allowed people of one nationality to compete per event. Be happy that he's doing something to cultivate a scene which as of recently, hasn't had much of a spotlight. Moron. Says the guy using insults, I lol'd. I think you fail to see my point. I don't like the idea of an "only x nationality" tournament. Just because koreans are better does not mean that the solution is to exclude them. To say to somebody "you can't play because you dont live in country x" is about as racist as it gets to me. Thats like saying that mexicans can't immigrate to the US oh wait. Maybe in the states you think it's cool to have only americans shit. But I'd much rather see NA players practicing their asses off and actually beating koreans, you know doing what naniwa does to make themselves relevant and grow their scene. Not get their own little tournament so they can actually be in the spotlight by removing all competition. But we have to grow no matter what right? Because our game has to have the biggest dick. @Darkhoarse: I couldn't care less what TB uses. I don't understand why it is fine to like this while it's apparently bad to express not liking it. Am I not allowed to share my opinion cause it's not supportive of the event? No backup? To tell somebody "you can't play cause you live in korea/poland/china or w.e." is racist to me. I don't know what it is to you. Racist, really. Are we going there? Not all tournaments have to be the same. There is plenty of room for all kinds of tournaments. Do you consider a tournament for female gamers to be sexist? Of course I do. If I held a tournament for California residents only, would you be upset that the people of Texes were being discriminated against? If I held a tournament for UC Berkeley students only, would you be upset that Stanford students were being discriminated against? You're grasping at straws. I don't think you understand my point at all but tbh apparently my views are wrong and as people are asking for me to get banned (I lol'd please keep it up) I'll just shut up and let you enjoy what you apparently think of as positive as other views are apparently not wanted.
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I guess that using graphic that optically enlarge Northern America (While South America is larger in real life) is racist too? :D
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yay a december dose of sc2!
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United States23455 Posts
That TB picture perfectly encapsulates how I feel about Lorch's insistence that this event is racist.
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free money for polt, I guess
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Let's not make too big a deal out of it. Lorch can have his opinion, you may think he's wrong, but he has reasons for his opinion.
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Canada16217 Posts
On November 14 2013 10:00 Pandain wrote:
Let's not make too big a deal out of it. Lorch can have his opinion, you may think he's wrong, but he has reasons for his opinion.
he has an opinion but it's a wrong one.
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United States97276 Posts
On November 14 2013 09:59 negativedge wrote:
free money for polt, I guess
I don't think he qualifies to play does he?
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Canada16217 Posts
On November 14 2013 10:01 Shellshock wrote:I don't think he qualifies to play does he?
no he does not
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