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XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
November 14 2013 02:22 GMT
#141
Thanks for this TB! Nice to see grassroots tourneys
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2013 02:27 GMT
#142
On November 14 2013 11:17 Kentredenite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 09:44 Gabriel_reaper wrote:
I guess that using graphic that optically enlarge Northern America (While South America is larger in real life) is racist too? :D


It's all that barren wasteland in the far north that does it.

Be nice to Canada, they're nice to you!
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CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
November 14 2013 02:33 GMT
#143
16 players would have been cooler. Lets all turn adblock off this time so they can afford it next time!
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
November 14 2013 02:36 GMT
#144
On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist.


Not exactly the first time a german has been hyper sensitive about race.... :')
"..." - Greg 'IdrA' Fields +++ DeMuslim, Naniwa, Jaedong, Hero, Suppy! <3 <3
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
November 14 2013 02:40 GMT
#145
One of the best NA events so glad we are seeing another keep up the great work TB!
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JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
November 14 2013 02:41 GMT
#146
TB laying it down, I'm glad to see someone caring for our continent
will most definetly tune in
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 14 2013 02:41 GMT
#147
On November 14 2013 11:36 Vertigro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist.


Not exactly the first time a german has been hyper sensitive about race.... :')

Its weird to cite racism is a problem when talking about NA and SA. Even if you are just talking about the US, we have a pretty diverse number of races.
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CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 02:45:02
November 14 2013 02:42 GMT
#148
As for maps: While it is ladder qualification, shouldn't they use mostly ladder maps?

However, lets be real for a moment: how is it that the creative culture uses a less creative map pool than south korea's Kespa did? I think we need to ask ourselves whether we can't show the world that we're able to take a risk or two.

Again, real talk: who didn't love the custom Kespa maps? Who wasn't big enough of a nerd to get excited about them?
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
huller20
Profile Joined August 2010
United States112 Posts
November 14 2013 02:44 GMT
#149
Great stuff!
Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
November 14 2013 02:48 GMT
#150
On November 14 2013 11:41 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 11:36 Vertigro wrote:
On November 14 2013 09:02 Lorch wrote:
So now we get part two of "let me do a region locked tournament to criticize wcs while my entire korean team plays in wcs na". Great, I will sabotage this by not watching the same way I did with the last one. I prefer tournaments that simply let the best player win regardless of nationality and I find these "lets ban the competition to get the players in the top spot that we'd like to see there" tournaments to be very racist.


Not exactly the first time a german has been hyper sensitive about race.... :')

Its weird to cite racism is a problem when talking about NA and SA. Even if you are just talking about the US, we have a pretty diverse number of races.


Weird claim in general! Not sure why its so wrong for a tournament to be regional? Hopefully this tournament establishes the best american sc2 player through the extensive use of ladder qualification and obviously the tourney itself! Would be nice to see a European version of this too, just to gage the overall strength of the Euro player base.
Not sure why this would be particularly 'racist', its like claiming the European championships are racist to other footballing nations :D
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 14 2013 02:53 GMT
#151
On November 14 2013 11:42 CutTheEnemy wrote:
As for maps: While it is ladder qualification, shouldn't they use mostly ladder maps?

However, lets be real for a moment: how is it that the creative culture uses a less creative map pool than south korea's Kespa did? I think we need to ask ourselves whether we can't show the world that we're able to take a risk or two.

Again, real talk: who didn't love the custom Kespa maps? Who wasn't big enough of a nerd to get excited about them?


This is what I am trying to decide. An argument could be made however that we would see more interesting games and it would be more difficult to learn your opponents builds from running into them on ladder if we were to use non-ladder maps. I'm considering a mix of the two.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
GameHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
286 Posts
November 14 2013 03:38 GMT
#152
I hope you guys will consider using the new simpler/lighter GameHeart for this event! It should be available to use by then!
Gameheart
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
November 14 2013 03:41 GMT
#153
This is awesome!
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 03:43:20
November 14 2013 03:43 GMT
#154
On November 14 2013 11:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 11:42 CutTheEnemy wrote:
As for maps: While it is ladder qualification, shouldn't they use mostly ladder maps?

However, lets be real for a moment: how is it that the creative culture uses a less creative map pool than south korea's Kespa did? I think we need to ask ourselves whether we can't show the world that we're able to take a risk or two.

Again, real talk: who didn't love the custom Kespa maps? Who wasn't big enough of a nerd to get excited about them?


This is what I am trying to decide. An argument could be made however that we would see more interesting games and it would be more difficult to learn your opponents builds from running into them on ladder if we were to use non-ladder maps. I'm considering a mix of the two.


Well, if the players are known ahead of time they would have plenty of time to practice on the maps assuming it gets announced well in advance.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 14 2013 03:45 GMT
#155
On November 14 2013 12:38 GameHeart wrote:
I hope you guys will consider using the new simpler/lighter GameHeart for this event! It should be available to use by then!


You don't even have to ask. Gameheart will be used for this tournament. I'll connect with you if we're gonna do any weird maps.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
November 14 2013 03:53 GMT
#156
Lets hope this runs smoothly, it's been too long since the last one!
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Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
November 14 2013 04:02 GMT
#157
On November 14 2013 12:45 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 12:38 GameHeart wrote:
I hope you guys will consider using the new simpler/lighter GameHeart for this event! It should be available to use by then!


You don't even have to ask. Gameheart will be used for this tournament. I'll connect with you if we're gonna do any weird maps.


I would pay to see a map pool that includes all sc2 maps ever. I'd love to see how new strategies and ancient maps intersect.
You are everything, I never knew, I always wanted.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2013 04:05 GMT
#158
I think it is awesome that you respond to questions and suggestions in the thread TB. Yay for tournament organizers interacting with the community!

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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 04:08:50
November 14 2013 04:07 GMT
#159
Good stuff! :D

It's nice to see how TotalBiscuit is trying to make the ladder more competitive
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FishStix
Profile Joined April 2010
United States425 Posts
November 14 2013 04:13 GMT
#160
in a post-WCS world, this is much needed. Nice.
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