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Ting.com presents - SHOUTcraft America Winter - Page 14

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DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico674 Posts
November 19 2013 03:06 GMT
#261
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

Can we expect SHOUTcraft SEA or Europe in the future?
LiquipediaMexican Liquipedia staff and Terran player. I tweet things @DARKING665.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 19 2013 03:08 GMT
#262
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
November 19 2013 05:38 GMT
#263
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?

I'd guess that it's probably to not open the floodgates. If he lets Australians play, why not Koreans and so on
Gabriel_reaper
Profile Joined December 2006
Czech Republic41 Posts
November 19 2013 07:35 GMT
#264
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?


Same as for excluding Europeans, Afrikans, Antarcticans and Asians. They are not in Americas.
Broken english FTW.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
November 19 2013 15:22 GMT
#265
TB and Idra... that will be just grand!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 19 2013 17:40 GMT
#266
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?


Because it's SHOUTcraft America

What more explanation is needed?
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 19 2013 17:48 GMT
#267
On November 20 2013 02:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?


Because it's SHOUTcraft America

What more explanation is needed?

I am not sure I understand, you're saying it's called SHOUTcraft America, yet you will not let someone from Australia compete because he is not American? That seems kind of convoluted, I mean Australia is kind of like America, they both begin with the letter A for instance. Also they both speak english, kind of. I think a case could be made for Australia and America being essentially the same thing, just a matter of semantics.

Also, it's been far too long since you and Greg cast together, it's still to this day one of the easiest pairings to listen to in the world of esports.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 19 2013 18:38 GMT
#268
On November 20 2013 02:48 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 02:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?


Because it's SHOUTcraft America

What more explanation is needed?

I am not sure I understand, you're saying it's called SHOUTcraft America, yet you will not let someone from Australia compete because he is not American? That seems kind of convoluted, I mean Australia is kind of like America, they both begin with the letter A for instance. Also they both speak english, kind of. I think a case could be made for Australia and America being essentially the same thing, just a matter of semantics.

Also, it's been far too long since you and Greg cast together, it's still to this day one of the easiest pairings to listen to in the world of esports.


Best post NA, wonder if anyone gets caught out by it
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 20 2013 00:08 GMT
#269
Acer scarlett on NA is cella btw
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 20 2013 00:36 GMT
#270
On November 20 2013 02:48 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 02:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?


Because it's SHOUTcraft America

What more explanation is needed?

I am not sure I understand, you're saying it's called SHOUTcraft America, yet you will not let someone from Australia compete because he is not American? That seems kind of convoluted, I mean Australia is kind of like America, they both begin with the letter A for instance. Also they both speak english, kind of. I think a case could be made for Australia and America being essentially the same thing, just a matter of semantics.

Also, it's been far too long since you and Greg cast together, it's still to this day one of the easiest pairings to listen to in the world of esports.

They are kind of similar in terms of both scenes needing to be sheltered from better Korean players, and being weaker and less tournament rich than Europe. As might as well amalgamate them with the weakest region recognized by Blizzard.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 20 2013 00:52 GMT
#271
On November 20 2013 02:48 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 02:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?


Because it's SHOUTcraft America

What more explanation is needed?

I am not sure I understand, you're saying it's called SHOUTcraft America, yet you will not let someone from Australia compete because he is not American? That seems kind of convoluted, I mean Australia is kind of like America, they both begin with the letter A for instance. Also they both speak english, kind of. I think a case could be made for Australia and America being essentially the same thing, just a matter of semantics.

Also, it's been far too long since you and Greg cast together, it's still to this day one of the easiest pairings to listen to in the world of esports.


So XMG_monchi should be allowed then.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 01:12:06
November 20 2013 00:54 GMT
#272
On November 20 2013 09:36 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 02:48 Squat wrote:
On November 20 2013 02:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?


Because it's SHOUTcraft America

What more explanation is needed?

I am not sure I understand, you're saying it's called SHOUTcraft America, yet you will not let someone from Australia compete because he is not American? That seems kind of convoluted, I mean Australia is kind of like America, they both begin with the letter A for instance. Also they both speak english, kind of. I think a case could be made for Australia and America being essentially the same thing, just a matter of semantics.

Also, it's been far too long since you and Greg cast together, it's still to this day one of the easiest pairings to listen to in the world of esports.

They are kind of similar in terms of both scenes needing to be sheltered from better Korean players, and being weaker and less tournament rich than Europe. As might as well amalgamate them with the weakest region recognized by Blizzard.


My word you're persistant.

It's SHOUTcraft America with no exceptions. How many more times do you need to be told?

If you want a tournament for Australian players go ahead and create one yourself, I'll even donate you £50 for the prize pool to help you get off the ground. And please don't say that it's not doable, it has been accomplished in the past (SC2Improve for example).
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 20 2013 01:00 GMT
#273
TB, if you're around, I was about to say something about the sponsor, but didn't want to talk out of my ass so I'll phrase it as a question. Is the American exclusivity of SHOUTcraft due in part to requests by Ting?
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 20 2013 01:09 GMT
#274
On November 20 2013 10:00 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
TB, if you're around, I was about to say something about the sponsor, but didn't want to talk out of my ass so I'll phrase it as a question. Is the American exclusivity of SHOUTcraft due in part to requests by Ting?


Hasn't SHOUTcraft always been exclusive to American residents even before the sponsorship of Ting?

Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 20 2013 01:37 GMT
#275
I think so. I just remember something about it on TB's Twitter, which isn't easy to search through because such volume many Tweets.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 20 2013 04:41 GMT
#276
On November 20 2013 10:09 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 10:00 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
TB, if you're around, I was about to say something about the sponsor, but didn't want to talk out of my ass so I'll phrase it as a question. Is the American exclusivity of SHOUTcraft due in part to requests by Ting?


Hasn't SHOUTcraft always been exclusive to American residents even before the sponsorship of Ting?



SHOUTcraft was invitationals before the original America tournament. We did a lot of Europeans in those events.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 20 2013 06:11 GMT
#277
As far as I know the protoss Hitman is not a Korean, and almost definitely not the zerg player Hitman from a KesPA team.

Looking forward to this BTW!
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
November 20 2013 17:03 GMT
#278
Is there a thread somewhere keeping track of the current ladder status for this?
MarineKingPrime Forever!
MrMatt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada225 Posts
November 20 2013 17:50 GMT
#279
I think TB and grack make a good team. Looking forward to this.
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
November 20 2013 18:47 GMT
#280
On November 20 2013 09:36 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 02:48 Squat wrote:
On November 20 2013 02:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 12:08 Sub40APM wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 19 2013 10:12 Sub40APM wrote:
They should let Petreaus participate, its not like Australo-Newzealanders are taking the food out of mouths of NA pros.


SHOUTcraft America.

Not Australia. No exceptions.

If you dont mind me asking TB, whats the rational for excluding Australians? Is it more of growing the NA scene or more of a sponsor issue?


Because it's SHOUTcraft America

What more explanation is needed?

I am not sure I understand, you're saying it's called SHOUTcraft America, yet you will not let someone from Australia compete because he is not American? That seems kind of convoluted, I mean Australia is kind of like America, they both begin with the letter A for instance. Also they both speak english, kind of. I think a case could be made for Australia and America being essentially the same thing, just a matter of semantics.

Also, it's been far too long since you and Greg cast together, it's still to this day one of the easiest pairings to listen to in the world of esports.

They are kind of similar in terms of both scenes needing to be sheltered from better Korean players, and being weaker and less tournament rich than Europe. As might as well amalgamate them with the weakest region recognized by Blizzard.

TBH Korea doesn't have that many tournaments either, why not allow koreans into SHOUTcraft America as well?
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