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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On November 13 2013 19:09 Pandemona wrote: Yeah that is true, but you would still in a BO3 format have Trap 60-40 over Alicia, even in a mirror due to his awesome PvP I wouldn't be so sure... Alicia won the PvP IPL Korea qualifiers with Oracles at the start of HotS.  | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On November 13 2013 19:08 vthree wrote: Lol, I can see oracles becoming PvP version of the prenerf hellbats in TvT. Where PvP will just be oracles killing all of each others workers. I don't think so tbh. Phoenix openings are just going to be more common now. An in base stargate phoenix first is still safe against an oracle build since the phoenix is like the only thing that's faster than an oracle (4,25 against the oracle's 4) and gives you a pretty good advantage against oracle first (and a pretty much BO win against proxy oracle). Should be zealot->sentry-> stargate builds though to have a forcefield ready in case of pressure and/or DTs | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On November 13 2013 19:12 DarkLordOlli wrote: I don't think so tbh. Phoenix openings are just going to be more common now. An in base stargate phoenix first is still safe against an oracle build since the phoenix is like the only thing that's faster than an oracle (4,25 against the oracle's 4) and gives you a pretty good advantage against oracle first (and a pretty much BO win against proxy oracle). Should be zealot->sentry-> stargate builds though to have a forcefield ready in case of pressure and/or DTs dat immediate proof of your theory | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On November 13 2013 19:12 DarkLordOlli wrote: I don't think so tbh. Phoenix openings are just going to be more common now. An in base stargate phoenix first is still safe against an oracle build since the phoenix is like the only thing that's faster than an oracle (4,25 against the oracle's 4) and gives you a pretty good advantage against oracle first (and a pretty much BO win against proxy oracle). Should be zealot->sentry-> stargate builds though to have a forcefield ready in case of pressure and/or DTs Yes, Phoenix opening is the hard counter for sure. But Phoenix opening also have problems with gateway builds. | ||
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ETisME
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On November 13 2013 19:17 vthree wrote: Yes, Phoenix opening is the hard counter for sure. But Phoenix opening also have problems with gateway builds. Yeah, which is why it might be a bit more coinflippy and build oriented for a while until people figure out how to scout for things or how not to die, etc. Or just forever. I doubt that though, these pros are pretty good at figuring stuff out ;o | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
On November 13 2013 19:18 DarkLordOlli wrote: Yeah, which is why it might be a bit more coinflippy and build oriented for a while until people figure out how to scout for things or how not to die, etc. In PvP? Say it won't be so! | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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