• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:08
CEST 19:08
KST 02:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play0Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)56ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo26Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) HackErIsTop take on Patch 5.0.16 Possible bug in the new patch? ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June BSL Season 22 BW General Discussion STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center
Tourneys
[BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Games for Kids Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7074 users

[WCS Finals] Day 3 Season 3 Grand Finals 2013 - Page 57

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 55 56 57 58 59 308 Next
Please avoid balance whining as usual.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1121
all these other matchs are formalities, everyone already knows whos gonna win wcs
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 19:21:27
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1122
and right now I love byul!
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1123
On October 28 2013 04:20 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:18 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:16 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:13 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.

Well Byul crushed Soo who beat Soulkey and Trap is amazing in PvZ. Soulkey might actually be an underdog against both of them.


Sk is not an underdog against either one of them lol. He's the most consistent pro gamer since Hots and besides Dear who is looking unstoppable right now, the favorite to take it all.


He looked helpless against soO and Byul has displayed some pretty damn sick ZvZ recently. Consistency does not mean very much when looking at form right now.


All right, i agree on Byul being a tough opponent for him, but it's not like Soulkey is an underdog against anyone really. Champions are Champions.

Mvp is the champion of champions and he would be the underdog if he were to play in this tournament against anyone here pretty much. But then he would win in spite of that of course.


Well MvP is not nearly at the top level competition anymore. Where as we're talking about top caliber championship contenders. And I think being a champion-winning player like SK can really push you over the edge in such high pressure situations. (Compared to Byul who never played in front of such a crowd)

Well Mvp and SK did both get their WCS championships in the same season
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1124
Why is Byul not drone scouting to direct his first 6 lings?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1125
On October 28 2013 04:21 TT1 wrote:
all these other matchs are formalities, everyone already knows whos gonna win wcs

True that. Naniwa.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1126
10 pool on this map eh?
maru lover forever
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1127
On October 28 2013 04:21 TT1 wrote:
all these other matchs are formalities, everyone already knows whos gonna win wcs


Well, enlighten us? Dear-fan?
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1128
On October 28 2013 04:19 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:17 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:16 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:13 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.

Well Byul crushed Soo who beat Soulkey and Trap is amazing in PvZ. Soulkey might actually be an underdog against both of them.


Sk is not an underdog against either one of them lol. He's the most consistent pro gamer since Hots and besides Dear who is looking unstoppable right now, the favorite to take it all.

Trap is by far the best at PvZ and Byul has great ZvZ while SK is by FAR the weakest at ZvZ. Soo crushed SK in the Ro4 of WCS KR and Byul crushed him.


That Byul > soO > SK logic is retarded. And Trap's PvZ was his only good matchup like 3 months ago, but that's not true anymore, he looked better in PvT and PvP in recent times actually.


It does make sense to say that if SK got stomped by soO, a guy who's capable of beating both JD (in a close series) and soO (fairly convincingly) is the favorite. I do agree that Trap's PvZ doesn't look as threatening now as it did a few months ago though.


Byul did play very well against JD but tbh he had a lot of build order advantages. I dont think you can say he is the favorite just because of those matches + soO. Nobody has to be the favorite
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46114 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1129
Is the crowd only cheering and clapping for SC2, or are there other games/ events in that area? Because a lot of the yelling and applause seems to be at really odd times during these games.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1130
One must agree that Killer/San both have the BALLS of a champion


actually... San's biggest problem is that he lacks the balls to compete in offline environment....
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1131
Not sure if this will work for Byul, I don't think so, but if he can micro well it should be salvageable I guess.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1132
On October 28 2013 04:21 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:21 TT1 wrote:
all these other matchs are formalities, everyone already knows whos gonna win wcs


Well, enlighten us? Dear-fan?

MARUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
TL+ Member
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1133
i think about how crazy it would have been, when that game 5 between jd and scarlett, where jd did a 6 pool, had been played in front of this crowd. everybody would have lost their mind.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1134
On October 28 2013 04:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is the crowd only cheering and clapping for SC2, or are there other games/ events in that area? Because a lot of the yelling and applause seems to be at really odd times during these games.


I think the venue screen fell out
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1135
On October 28 2013 04:21 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

The sad thing is I can think of multiple seasons last year with like only 2 toss in the ro16. But it was always like 2 really good toss that would then make like ro8 and ro4 so it didn't look as bad.

Well that happens a lot with other races too. One terran will make top 8, then win the tourney and then terran will be OP. But that happens with all three.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1136
On October 28 2013 04:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is the crowd only cheering and clapping for SC2, or are there other games/ events in that area? Because a lot of the yelling and applause seems to be at really odd times during these games.


Only SC2
AdministratorBreak the chains
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1137
On October 28 2013 04:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:20 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:18 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:16 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:13 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.

Well Byul crushed Soo who beat Soulkey and Trap is amazing in PvZ. Soulkey might actually be an underdog against both of them.


Sk is not an underdog against either one of them lol. He's the most consistent pro gamer since Hots and besides Dear who is looking unstoppable right now, the favorite to take it all.


He looked helpless against soO and Byul has displayed some pretty damn sick ZvZ recently. Consistency does not mean very much when looking at form right now.


All right, i agree on Byul being a tough opponent for him, but it's not like Soulkey is an underdog against anyone really. Champions are Champions.

Mvp is the champion of champions and he would be the underdog if he were to play in this tournament against anyone here pretty much. But then he would win in spite of that of course.


Well MvP is not nearly at the top level competition anymore. Where as we're talking about top caliber championship contenders. And I think being a champion-winning player like SK can really push you over the edge in such high pressure situations. (Compared to Byul who never played in front of such a crowd)

Well Mvp and SK did both get their WCS championships in the same season


And MvP got beat up by foreigners since then... But I know nobody may say anything about the holy mvp.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1138
pretty sure the MSC stops zerg attacking till about 12 minutes.
Zerg for Life
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1139
On October 28 2013 04:19 packrat386 wrote:
(Z)ByuL vs (P)Trap
1 - 0
Map: Whilrwind

0:00
Byul is at the bot left
Dear is at the top right


1:00
nothing silly yet it seems
pylon in base for trap
10 pool. silly things on the way

2:00
gateway in base for trap
2 gas for trap
byul getting a least 8 lings
cy core otw for trap

3:00
lings are going to get there just as the zealot gets out
trap is surprised but will chrono the MSC

4:00
trap is supply blocked
MSC and zealot kill almost all the lings
too much damage, byul has to go back
lings chase down the probe
dreaming of a sunny day
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#1140
On October 28 2013 04:21 Incognoto wrote:
10 pool on this map eh?

Good chance to get BO win.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Prev 1 55 56 57 58 59 308 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
17:00
Mid Season Playoffs
MaxPax vs Percival
Solar vs ShoWTimE
Lambo vs Arrogfire
YoungYakov vs GgMaChine
Krystianer vs ArT
NightMare vs Iba
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 122
Railgan 84
BRAT_OK 52
MindelVK 13
UpATreeSC 10
gerald23 1
CosmosSc2 1
SteadfastSC 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3771
Shuttle 360
firebathero 218
ggaemo 130
actioN 87
Movie 39
ajuk12(nOOB) 17
IntoTheRainbow 13
yabsab 13
Dota 2
Gorgc6204
qojqva2353
Dendi989
420jenkins246
Counter-Strike
fl0m2130
pashabiceps1470
byalli400
zeus373
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu42
Other Games
singsing2035
FrodaN923
Beastyqt473
ceh9424
DeMusliM265
Sick222
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream8410
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH283
• LUISG 23
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 12
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4389
• Jankos2356
Other Games
• Shiphtur288
• imaqtpie1
Upcoming Events
Douyu Cup 2020
11h 52m
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
OSC
22h 52m
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 11h
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
Online Event
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.