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Please avoid balance whining as usual.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 19:17 GMT
#1101
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

Killer is the man.
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 27 2013 19:17 GMT
#1102
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

good ol' times!
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 19:18:07
October 27 2013 19:17 GMT
#1103
On October 28 2013 04:16 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:13 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.

Well Byul crushed Soo who beat Soulkey and Trap is amazing in PvZ. Soulkey might actually be an underdog against both of them.


Sk is not an underdog against either one of them lol. He's the most consistent pro gamer since Hots and besides Dear who is looking unstoppable right now, the favorite to take it all.

Trap is by far the best at PvZ and Byul has great ZvZ while SK is by FAR the weakest at ZvZ. Soo crushed SK in the Ro4 of WCS KR and Byul crushed him.


That Byul > soO > SK logic is retarded. And Trap's PvZ was his only good matchup like 3 months ago, but that's not true anymore, he looked better in PvT and PvP in recent times actually.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
October 27 2013 19:18 GMT
#1104
On October 28 2013 04:16 ottosec wrote:
Who should we cheer for, so that Naniwa will qualify?

Soulkey.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 27 2013 19:18 GMT
#1105
On October 28 2013 04:17 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

Killer is the man.


He didn't look very manly against Coca I must say
AdministratorBreak the chains
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 19:18 GMT
#1106
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

TIL that Clide did past Ro16 at least once. Well, Flash is even worse then i suppose.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 27 2013 19:18 GMT
#1107
On October 28 2013 04:17 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

Killer is the man.

yea it pretty much just reaffirmed that he's the manliest toss besides maybe ManZenith
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 19:18:50
October 27 2013 19:18 GMT
#1108
On October 28 2013 04:16 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:14 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:13 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.

Well Byul crushed Soo who beat Soulkey and Trap is amazing in PvZ. Soulkey might actually be an underdog against both of them.


Sk is not an underdog against either one of them lol. He's the most consistent pro gamer since Hots and besides Dear who is looking unstoppable right now, the favorite to take it all.


He looked helpless against soO and Byul has displayed some pretty damn sick ZvZ recently. Consistency does not mean very much when looking at form right now.


All right, i agree on Byul being a tough opponent for him, but it's not like Soulkey is an underdog against anyone really. Champions are Champions.

Mvp is the champion of champions and he would be the underdog if he were to play in this tournament against anyone here pretty much. But then he would win in spite of that of course.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 27 2013 19:19 GMT
#1109
On October 28 2013 04:17 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:16 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:13 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.

Well Byul crushed Soo who beat Soulkey and Trap is amazing in PvZ. Soulkey might actually be an underdog against both of them.


Sk is not an underdog against either one of them lol. He's the most consistent pro gamer since Hots and besides Dear who is looking unstoppable right now, the favorite to take it all.

Trap is by far the best at PvZ and Byul has great ZvZ while SK is by FAR the weakest at ZvZ. Soo crushed SK in the Ro4 of WCS KR and Byul crushed him.


That Byul > soO > SK logic is retarded. And Trap's PvZ was his only good matchup like 3 months ago, but that's not true anymore, he looked better in PvT and PvP in recent times actually.


It does make sense to say that if SK got stomped by soO, a guy who's capable of beating both JD (in a close series) and soO (fairly convincingly) is the favorite. I do agree that Trap's PvZ doesn't look as threatening now as it did a few months ago though.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 19:20:17
October 27 2013 19:19 GMT
#1110
On October 28 2013 04:17 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

good ol' times!


Wait, how did Clide make Ro8 there?

Edit: lol Lolfail9001, great minds....
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
October 27 2013 19:19 GMT
#1111
(Z)ByuL vs (P)Trap
1 - 0
Map: Whilrwind

0:00
Byul is at the bot left
Dear is at the top right
dreaming of a sunny day
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 19:20 GMT
#1112
On October 28 2013 04:18 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:17 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

Killer is the man.


He didn't look very manly against Coca I must say

A minor setback to his masculinity
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 27 2013 19:20 GMT
#1113
awww yisss! Do it Byul!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 19:20 GMT
#1114
On October 28 2013 04:19 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:17 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:16 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:13 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.

Well Byul crushed Soo who beat Soulkey and Trap is amazing in PvZ. Soulkey might actually be an underdog against both of them.


Sk is not an underdog against either one of them lol. He's the most consistent pro gamer since Hots and besides Dear who is looking unstoppable right now, the favorite to take it all.

Trap is by far the best at PvZ and Byul has great ZvZ while SK is by FAR the weakest at ZvZ. Soo crushed SK in the Ro4 of WCS KR and Byul crushed him.


That Byul > soO > SK logic is retarded. And Trap's PvZ was his only good matchup like 3 months ago, but that's not true anymore, he looked better in PvT and PvP in recent times actually.


It does make sense to say that if SK got stomped by soO, a guy who's capable of beating both JD (in a close series) and soO (fairly convincingly) is the favorite. I do agree that Trap's PvZ doesn't look as threatening now as it did a few months ago though.

Well, SK on 1 day can make look Rain look like noob and another look like one himself.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 27 2013 19:20 GMT
#1115
On October 28 2013 04:18 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:16 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:13 robson1 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.

Well Byul crushed Soo who beat Soulkey and Trap is amazing in PvZ. Soulkey might actually be an underdog against both of them.


Sk is not an underdog against either one of them lol. He's the most consistent pro gamer since Hots and besides Dear who is looking unstoppable right now, the favorite to take it all.


He looked helpless against soO and Byul has displayed some pretty damn sick ZvZ recently. Consistency does not mean very much when looking at form right now.


All right, i agree on Byul being a tough opponent for him, but it's not like Soulkey is an underdog against anyone really. Champions are Champions.

Mvp is the champion of champions and he would be the underdog if he were to play in this tournament against anyone here pretty much. But then he would win in spite of that of course.


Well MvP is not nearly at the top level competition anymore. Where as we're talking about top caliber championship contenders. And I think being a champion-winning player like SK can really push you over the edge in such high pressure situations. (Compared to Byul who never played in front of such a crowd)
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 19:20 GMT
#1116
On October 28 2013 04:18 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:17 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

Killer is the man.

yea it pretty much just reaffirmed that he's the manliest toss besides maybe ManZenith

One must agree that Killer/San both have the BALLS of a champion
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44320 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1117
On October 28 2013 04:17 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Solid win by ByuL there. Good job.

Trap needed to either do the aggro faster or not at all in my opinion. It just seemed stunted by the time he actually got there.


I agree. Trap seemed to just do a middle-of-the-road, standard attack that ByuL clearly had an easy job reacting too.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1118
I told you teoita, I TOLD YOU THE 10 POOL WAS COMING!
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bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1119
On October 28 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:14 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:11 bourne117 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:09 robson1 wrote:
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.

People have been whining about toss this whole tournament?


Well actually since 2010 but it does seem to be pretty bad this weekend

Well people are dumb if they complain about toss even though for almost every GSL season there are like no toss players.


GSL October, never forget

The sad thing is I can think of multiple seasons last year with like only 2 toss in the ro16. But it was always like 2 really good toss that would then make like ro8 and ro4 so it didn't look as bad.
QO Feasting
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
October 27 2013 19:21 GMT
#1120
9pool*
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
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