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Please avoid balance whining as usual.
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
October 28 2013 01:51 GMT
#5961
WCS KR, WCS S3 and WCS GF..... oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
October 28 2013 01:51 GMT
#5962
On October 28 2013 10:49 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Dear will NOT win Blizzcon. I suspect he won't even make it to the ro4 either. He's painted himself as a target and In SC2 the way it works is if your on the radar it's much too easy to go in and dissect your play. Sadly, winning this championship was the worst thing Dear could have done for his chances.

Plus he has the guy that 3-0'd Rain in the Season 2 finals as his first opponent. ;o
Willzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom774 Posts
October 28 2013 01:51 GMT
#5963
On October 28 2013 10:43 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 10:41 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:39 Bagration wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:38 dutchfriese wrote:
dear is currently the best player in the world. There is literally no debate about it.


The unfortunate thing is in a few weeks Blizzcon will happen and if Dear doesn't win, people will forget all about him.


Who saw will never forget.


First guy to win his region (the hardest) and the finals. Double title hold is pretty impressive.


And Maru repeated his GSL run too, only losing to the eventual champion Dear and showing some really impressive games while doing so.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 28 2013 01:51 GMT
#5964
So Dear only just made challenger league in S2, and now wins S3 global finals. That means theres hope for all of us! In a few months YOU could win WCS.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
October 28 2013 01:52 GMT
#5965
On October 28 2013 10:51 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 10:49 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Dear will NOT win Blizzcon. I suspect he won't even make it to the ro4 either. He's painted himself as a target and In SC2 the way it works is if your on the radar it's much too easy to go in and dissect your play. Sadly, winning this championship was the worst thing Dear could have done for his chances.

Plus he has the guy that 3-0'd Rain in the Season 2 finals as his first opponent. ;o

Summer is over
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 28 2013 01:53 GMT
#5966
On October 28 2013 10:51 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So Dear only just made challenger league in S2, and now wins S3 global finals. That means theres hope for all of us! In a few months YOU could win WCS.


I'm already a winner. I get all this free entertainment
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
October 28 2013 01:54 GMT
#5967
On October 28 2013 10:47 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 10:41 Bagration wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:40 Cheren wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:39 Bagration wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:38 dutchfriese wrote:
dear is currently the best player in the world. There is literally no debate about it.


The unfortunate thing is in a few weeks Blizzcon will happen and if Dear doesn't win, people will forget all about him.


People's expectations for Dear will be higher than they should be, I expect people to have tunnel vision and forget that there's 15 other really good players there.

But I don't think people will forget about Dear, and his results in 2014 will likely be pretty good.


In this world, we have two types of Protoss. The MCs and the Seeds.



LOL I never took another protoss seriously as taking over for MC until now and that includes when parting, seed, rain and other upstarts had their runs. Dear wont be figured out too dynamic.

The thing is you can't point to some gimmick he is relying on, Parting had Soultrain, SOS had the crazy DT zealot archon stargate timing weirdness, Hero is addicted to fancy plays and Rain is too predictable. Dear is just super solid with great macro/micro/decision making.
havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
October 28 2013 01:54 GMT
#5968
On October 28 2013 10:51 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So Dear only just made challenger league in S2, and now wins S3 global finals. That means theres hope for all of us! In a few months YOU could win WCS.


As long as you're in WCS Kor CL now.
Willzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom774 Posts
October 28 2013 01:54 GMT
#5969
On October 28 2013 10:49 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Dear will NOT win Blizzcon. I suspect he won't even make it to the ro4 either. He's painted himself as a target and In SC2 the way it works is if your on the radar it's much too easy to go in and dissect your play. Sadly, winning this championship was the worst thing Dear could have done for his chances.


Yeah I mean if he'd won GSL he'd never have won here because people would have studied his play.

Hang on a second..
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
October 28 2013 01:54 GMT
#5970
What was the peak viewership at? I think I saw at one point it was around 80k....did it ever get higher than that?
10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
October 28 2013 01:55 GMT
#5971
On October 28 2013 10:49 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Dear will NOT win Blizzcon. I suspect he won't even make it to the ro4 either. He's painted himself as a target and In SC2 the way it works is if your on the radar it's much too easy to go in and dissect your play. Sadly, winning this championship was the worst thing Dear could have done for his chances.

This and I also wonder how he will handle his success mentally.
He said he put a lot of efforts in his GSL win (and I assume in this one). How long can he keep on training like a madman like this?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 28 2013 01:55 GMT
#5972
Let's get this thread to 300 pages at least. Just so it's a nice even number
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 02:01:02
October 28 2013 01:55 GMT
#5973
I just want to watch Dear play Terrans (aggressive, drop-happy ones, which is all of them) all the way into the Grand finals. Dems make some good ass games.

His path to victory shall be Taeja > Alive > Maru/Innovation > MMA/Polt
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 28 2013 01:55 GMT
#5974
On October 28 2013 10:54 Green_25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 10:47 tdt wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:41 Bagration wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:40 Cheren wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:39 Bagration wrote:
On October 28 2013 10:38 dutchfriese wrote:
dear is currently the best player in the world. There is literally no debate about it.


The unfortunate thing is in a few weeks Blizzcon will happen and if Dear doesn't win, people will forget all about him.


People's expectations for Dear will be higher than they should be, I expect people to have tunnel vision and forget that there's 15 other really good players there.

But I don't think people will forget about Dear, and his results in 2014 will likely be pretty good.


In this world, we have two types of Protoss. The MCs and the Seeds.



LOL I never took another protoss seriously as taking over for MC until now and that includes when parting, seed, rain and other upstarts had their runs. Dear wont be figured out too dynamic.

The thing is you can't point to some gimmick he is relying on, Parting had Soultrain, SOS had the crazy DT zealot archon stargate timing weirdness, Hero is addicted to fancy plays and Rain is too predictable. Dear is just super solid with great macro/micro/decision making.

Well, problem with Dear is that he kinda has help from PartinG, sOs and Rain and probably even some sort of HerO's playstyle study. So he ends up being to Korean toss what Maru is to Prime.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
October 28 2013 01:56 GMT
#5975
On October 28 2013 10:49 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Dear will NOT win Blizzcon. I suspect he won't even make it to the ro4 either. He's painted himself as a target and In SC2 the way it works is if your on the radar it's much too easy to go in and dissect your play. Sadly, winning this championship was the worst thing Dear could have done for his chances.


I disagree, Dear has shown that his play is very dynamic and can play on the fly with pretty damn good mechanics.

+ Just look at soulkey, soulkey was on the radar yet he's been placing ro8 and higher since 2012
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Soulkey/Results
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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
October 28 2013 01:57 GMT
#5976
On October 28 2013 10:49 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Dear will NOT win Blizzcon. I suspect he won't even make it to the ro4 either. He's painted himself as a target and In SC2 the way it works is if your on the radar it's much too easy to go in and dissect your play. Sadly, winning this championship was the worst thing Dear could have done for his chances.


That has happened to players in the past because in the past the best players had play that was innovative and changed the metagame. Stephanos roach max, Partings Soul Train, even the super safe solid play of Rain itself showed how you could play macro Protoss. Innovation's parade push ZvP, and on and on. Those were all things that got "figured out" by their peers. Dear doesn't do some build or strategy that needs figuring out, he just can do all the builds better than everyone else. He has sublime decision making and understanding of timings as well. This sounds like stuff we've heard for past guys, but I think he could be the next Mvp type player
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12056 Posts
October 28 2013 01:57 GMT
#5977
On October 28 2013 10:54 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
What was the peak viewership at? I think I saw at one point it was around 80k....did it ever get higher than that?


The biggest issue with peak viewership with American tournaments is the finals are always on at such a bad time for Europe so the viewers always trail off
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Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
October 28 2013 01:58 GMT
#5978
On October 28 2013 10:55 havok55 wrote:
I just want to watch Dear play Terrans (aggressive, drop-happy ones, which is all of them) all the way into the Grand finals. Dems makes some good makes.

Taeja has great TvP, should be an awesome series. But Taeja is a master of ghosts, and actually likes going to late game, so it will be very different. I expect some cheese from Dear.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
October 28 2013 01:58 GMT
#5979
Looks like there's a chance for another Dear vs Maru semis at Blizzcon
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 28 2013 01:59 GMT
#5980
On October 28 2013 10:57 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 10:49 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Dear will NOT win Blizzcon. I suspect he won't even make it to the ro4 either. He's painted himself as a target and In SC2 the way it works is if your on the radar it's much too easy to go in and dissect your play. Sadly, winning this championship was the worst thing Dear could have done for his chances.


That has happened to players in the past because in the past the best players had play that was innovative and changed the metagame. Stephanos roach max, Partings Soul Train, even the super safe solid play of Rain itself showed how you could play macro Protoss. Innovation's parade push ZvP, and on and on. Those were all things that got "figured out" by their peers. Dear doesn't do some build or strategy that needs figuring out, he just can do all the builds better than everyone else. He has sublime decision making and understanding of timings as well. This sounds like stuff we've heard for past guys, but I think he could be the next Mvp type player


Could be. He just needs to maintain this form for another year or two.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
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