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Please avoid balance whining as usual.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2561
On October 28 2013 06:50 trudodyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:49 Zambrah wrote:
Is Dear slaying Maru good or bad for Naniwa?

Doesn't matter.


Sweet.

GO DEAR!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2562
MARUUUUUUUUU
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2563
On October 28 2013 06:49 SoSexy wrote:
If the final is PvP I'll uninstall Starcraft forever

let's be positive. if it's PvP it means we can go to sleep at a somewhat reasonable time (right after the second semi finals). it it's not PvP it means we have a great TvP or ZvP on our hands.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2564
On October 28 2013 06:49 Zambrah wrote:
Is Dear slaying Maru good or bad for Naniwa?


Irrelevant. The other side of the bracket is all that matters atm. The winner of this will have to beat Trap, if he wins, tho.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2565
On October 28 2013 06:49 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:47 j4vz wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:46 Limited328 wrote:
Dear making Maru look like a newbie


Except Maru outplayed Dear g1


Except he really really really didn't. Rewatch the game and you will see. He killed twice as many scvs...

+ Maru went all in and didn't kill Dear

+ Maru didn't get vikings/ghosts


Maru was outplayed. I have to suspect you play low lvl T to say such a thing.


was 4 base vs 2 base with 4 orbitals when Dear maxed out and all inned. Maru could have retreated and gotten a few more units and better position.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2566
On October 28 2013 06:51 Salient wrote:
Wow. Dear is on the warpath. He eliminated Hero. He 3-0'd MC, and now is looking like he wants to 3-0 Maru.

just shows how amazing HerO is for going 2-4 against Dear, eh?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45351 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2567
On October 28 2013 06:49 xlnqeniuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:47 j4vz wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:46 Limited328 wrote:
Dear making Maru look like a newbie


Except Maru outplayed Dear g1


Except clearly not because he lost.

He lost because he made a mistake, but Dear still got outplayed.

http://imgur.com/lPcZr8p


I recommend actually watching the game. Making the decision to never make any ghosts or vikings against high templar and colossus isn't nearly as simple a mistake as you're making it out to be. Dear outplayed Maru because he defended well against Maru's pressure and came out way ahead in tech, crushing Maru afterwards. Just because a Terran drops multiple times doesn't mean he's automatically outplaying his opponent. Maru played well, but Dear played better. That's why Dear won.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2568
On October 28 2013 06:50 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:49 Mozdk wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:47 j4vz wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:46 Limited328 wrote:
Dear making Maru look like a newbie


Except Maru outplayed Dear g1


Except he really really really didn't. Rewatch the game and you will see. He killed twice as many scvs...

+ Maru went all in and didn't kill Dear

+ Maru didn't get vikings/ghosts


Maru was outplayed. I have to suspect you play low lvl T to say such a thing.

Maru didn't go all in. But he did get "outplayed" just because he didn't tech.

He also got owned pretty hard in the opening stage.
SneX
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden377 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2569
On October 28 2013 06:43 Salient wrote:
Dear came out of nowhere this season to emerge as the best Protoss. I didn't watch Proleague. Did Proleague viewers realize that he was this good? He's like the new PartinG.

Yes Dear improved over time in PL!
xlnqeniuz
Profile Joined October 2013
Netherlands30 Posts
October 27 2013 21:51 GMT
#2570
Maru pls ;-;
MARINEKING! ~ PIGLET! <3 - Yoona! *_*
Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2571
On October 28 2013 06:49 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:47 j4vz wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:46 Limited328 wrote:
Dear making Maru look like a newbie


Except Maru outplayed Dear g1


Except he really really really didn't. Rewatch the game and you will see. He killed twice as many scvs...

+ Maru went all in and didn't kill Dear

+ Maru didn't get vikings/ghosts


Maru was outplayed. I have to suspect you play low lvl T to say such a thing.

I would also like to note, like I did earlier, that Dear killed more SCVs with storm drops than Maru did with his bio drops. So Dear was teching, defending and harassing better than Maru. Obviously this means that Maru outplayed Dear.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 21:52:26
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2572
Regarding outplaying someone vs getting the win, of course one can play worse and still win the game.

There was a PvP on Whirlwind with Squirtle where a mistake in scouting the main resulted in an advantage for the player who scouted bad.

So a bad play gave him the win.

Not saying Maru is playing better here, just that it is possible.q
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2573
Camera not showing players during the intro and end of games is a little bit awkward
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2574
On October 28 2013 06:51 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:49 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:49 Paljas wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:48 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:47 j4vz wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:46 Limited328 wrote:
Dear making Maru look like a newbie


Except Maru outplayed Dear g1


Except clearly not because he lost.

It is possible to outplay someone and still lose. See: Every HerO PvZ in late 2012

no

no what?

leenock outplayed hero on antiga

Pshhhh Leenock n clicked (or whatever the neural hotkey is) the mothership after getting kicked around all game.
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2575
On October 28 2013 06:51 VisonKai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:49 Zambrah wrote:
Is Dear slaying Maru good or bad for Naniwa?


Irrelevant. The other side of the bracket is all that matters atm. The winner of this will have to beat Trap, if he wins, tho.


What needs to happen for Nani to get to blizzcon?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2576
On October 28 2013 06:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:50 Pandemona wrote:
inb4 proxy rax ;_;

...on whirlwind?


Put ur proxy rax in middle of map by watch tower. You hope they go expand first
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2577
On October 28 2013 06:49 xlnqeniuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:47 j4vz wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:46 Limited328 wrote:
Dear making Maru look like a newbie


Except Maru outplayed Dear g1


Except clearly not because he lost.

He lost because he made a mistake, but Dear still got outplayed.

http://imgur.com/lPcZr8p

Dear got a significant advantage in the early game, defended extremely well during the mid-game and then took advantage of the fact that Maru didn't have the tech to deal with HT/Colo. As much as I dislike Protoss (Mothershipcore is a ridiculous unit), Dear deserved that win.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2578
When are they going to restart streaming?
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2579
OSL @15

CC First everytime


NEXT COMING OF FLASH!
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2580
On October 28 2013 06:51 VisonKai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:49 Zambrah wrote:
Is Dear slaying Maru good or bad for Naniwa?


Irrelevant. The other side of the bracket is all that matters atm. The winner of this will have to beat Trap, if he wins, tho.


Very bad because if we get Dear vs Trap final Trap will win.
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