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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:03 GMT
#4861
On October 27 2013 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:01 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:00 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:59 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
yay!



On October 27 2013 09:52 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Must've got this from Nestea :o

which means it's definitely not going to work



I guess that's it for Nestea. not even top 2 IM zerg anymore


Kangho is the best player on IM. Think about that.


First is


Could be. Too bad Jjakji told every other Terran he's crap at holding scv all-ins.

what was his sick build against Innovation? the absolutely no aoe pvt build?

What are you talking about?

Did you watch First vs Innovation in the Ro16 this season?

First didn't play Innovation in the ro16 this season or last season.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#4862
lol that SG was put down at like 4:20. Probably the fastest i've ever seen, he even got it b4 mothership core.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#4863
On October 27 2013 10:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:01 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:00 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:59 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
yay!



On October 27 2013 09:52 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
which means it's definitely not going to work



I guess that's it for Nestea. not even top 2 IM zerg anymore


Kangho is the best player on IM. Think about that.


First is


Could be. Too bad Jjakji told every other Terran he's crap at holding scv all-ins.

what was his sick build against Innovation? the absolutely no aoe pvt build?

What are you talking about?

Did you watch First vs Innovation in the Ro16 this season?

First and Innovation ever played each other!?

oh crap I'm. That was super
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
FrvPssn
Profile Joined August 2013
France402 Posts
October 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#4864
Byul, finish the duck quickly, it's alraedy 9am here @.@
For the night is dark and full of Terran!!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#4865
On October 27 2013 10:00 The_Templar wrote:
Group D: Final Match

(P)duckdeok vs (Z)ByuL
0-1


Map: Whirlwind


duckdeok spawns in the bottom right
ByuL spawns in the bottom left

2:00
Duckdeok building next to his nexus, going gate --> gas.
Byul goes 3 hatchery before pool.

3:00
Byul getting a spawning pool.
Duckdeok getting warp gate.

4:00
duckdeok getting a stargate and 2 gateways at his front.
Byul researching zergling speed.

5:00
duckdeok building a forge.
Zerglings get into the main and see everything.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#4866
On October 27 2013 10:04 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:01 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:00 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:59 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
yay!



[quote]


I guess that's it for Nestea. not even top 2 IM zerg anymore


Kangho is the best player on IM. Think about that.


First is


Could be. Too bad Jjakji told every other Terran he's crap at holding scv all-ins.

what was his sick build against Innovation? the absolutely no aoe pvt build?

What are you talking about?

Did you watch First vs Innovation in the Ro16 this season?

First and Innovation ever played each other!?

oh crap I'm. That was super

I thought you did not make mistakes. Reboot needed.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#4867
On October 27 2013 10:04 FrvPssn wrote:
Byul, finish the duck quickly, it's alraedy 9am here @.@

Holy crap 9 AM #passion
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
October 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#4868
On October 27 2013 10:00 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:00 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:55 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:49 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead

In what possible way has Naniwa come out ahead? Dear won WCS KR. Naniwa couldn't even make the finals for WCS EU once. Yeah he was good in the GSL like over a year ago. That means now he is better than the Dear? I don't even like Dear but you are delusional if you think they are even close much less Naniwa being ahead

I mean as results are so arguable, we could just go by their offline engagement

Arguable? Huh?

"I think this result is better" -"But I think this is better!" Although offline engagement says Naniwa

One match months ago dude. Seriously. That is not any way to base your claim.

But if Naniwa and Dear played a best of 15 on this instant and Naniwa won 8 straight maps, it would still favor Dear right? Gawl..
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#4869
On October 27 2013 10:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:04 FrvPssn wrote:
Byul, finish the duck quickly, it's alraedy 9am here @.@

Holy crap 9 AM #passion

5 AM here, huh.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 01:05:36
October 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#4870
On October 27 2013 10:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:04 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:01 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:00 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:59 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
I guess that's it for Nestea. not even top 2 IM zerg anymore


Kangho is the best player on IM. Think about that.


First is


Could be. Too bad Jjakji told every other Terran he's crap at holding scv all-ins.

what was his sick build against Innovation? the absolutely no aoe pvt build?

What are you talking about?

Did you watch First vs Innovation in the Ro16 this season?

First and Innovation ever played each other!?

oh crap I'm. That was super

I thought you did not make mistakes. Reboot needed.


don't reboot, if we let our defenses down for even one second KT_Perry will strike
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#4871
On October 27 2013 10:04 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:00 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:00 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:55 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:49 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead

In what possible way has Naniwa come out ahead? Dear won WCS KR. Naniwa couldn't even make the finals for WCS EU once. Yeah he was good in the GSL like over a year ago. That means now he is better than the Dear? I don't even like Dear but you are delusional if you think they are even close much less Naniwa being ahead

I mean as results are so arguable, we could just go by their offline engagement

Arguable? Huh?

"I think this result is better" -"But I think this is better!" Although offline engagement says Naniwa

One match months ago dude. Seriously. That is not any way to base your claim.

But if Naniwa and Dear played a best of 15 on this instant and Naniwa won 8 straight maps, it would still favor Dear right? Gawl..

What the hell? I didn't say that... I don't understand
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 27 2013 01:05 GMT
#4872
On October 27 2013 10:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 FrvPssn wrote:
Byul, finish the duck quickly, it's alraedy 9am here @.@

Holy crap 9 AM #passion

5 AM here, huh.


That'll be me come DH winter.
Moderator
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:06 GMT
#4873
On October 27 2013 10:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 FrvPssn wrote:
Byul, finish the duck quickly, it's alraedy 9am here @.@

Holy crap 9 AM #passion

5 AM here, huh.

I don't have to stay up late to watch, I just have to lose any productivity I would've had during the day.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 01:06 GMT
#4874
On October 27 2013 10:04 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:00 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:00 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:55 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:49 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead

In what possible way has Naniwa come out ahead? Dear won WCS KR. Naniwa couldn't even make the finals for WCS EU once. Yeah he was good in the GSL like over a year ago. That means now he is better than the Dear? I don't even like Dear but you are delusional if you think they are even close much less Naniwa being ahead

I mean as results are so arguable, we could just go by their offline engagement

Arguable? Huh?

"I think this result is better" -"But I think this is better!" Although offline engagement says Naniwa

One match months ago dude. Seriously. That is not any way to base your claim.

But if Naniwa and Dear played a best of 15 on this instant and Naniwa won 8 straight maps, it would still favor Dear right? Gawl..

If they played right now at 18:00 KST, and Naniwa won 8-0. Then yes. They did not so we have to go with recent results.
Dear has winning GSL against Naniwa never winning anything except that 1 MLG.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:06 GMT
#4875
On October 27 2013 10:05 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 FrvPssn wrote:
Byul, finish the duck quickly, it's alraedy 9am here @.@

Holy crap 9 AM #passion

5 AM here, huh.


That'll be me come DH winter.

For HerO's three-peat
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 27 2013 01:06 GMT
#4876
Let's go by the here and now boys. You are only as good as your last result. Let's stick with that. The way this scene works nowadays that's all you can really go by.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 27 2013 01:06 GMT
#4877
On October 27 2013 10:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 FrvPssn wrote:
Byul, finish the duck quickly, it's alraedy 9am here @.@

Holy crap 9 AM #passion

5 AM here, huh.

just passed midday in Sydney :p then again I woke early rather than stay up late
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 27 2013 01:06 GMT
#4878
On October 27 2013 10:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:04 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:01 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:00 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:59 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:56 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
I guess that's it for Nestea. not even top 2 IM zerg anymore


Kangho is the best player on IM. Think about that.


First is


Could be. Too bad Jjakji told every other Terran he's crap at holding scv all-ins.

what was his sick build against Innovation? the absolutely no aoe pvt build?

What are you talking about?

Did you watch First vs Innovation in the Ro16 this season?

First and Innovation ever played each other!?

oh crap I'm. That was super

I thought you did not make mistakes. Reboot needed.

All the protosses not named San and sOs kind of run together for me
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 27 2013 01:07 GMT
#4879
On October 27 2013 10:06 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:01 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:00 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:59 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

Kangho is the best player on IM. Think about that.


First is


Could be. Too bad Jjakji told every other Terran he's crap at holding scv all-ins.

what was his sick build against Innovation? the absolutely no aoe pvt build?

What are you talking about?

Did you watch First vs Innovation in the Ro16 this season?

First and Innovation ever played each other!?

oh crap I'm. That was super

I thought you did not make mistakes. Reboot needed.

All the protosses not named San and sOs kind of run together for me


Soon to also add Sora.
Moderator
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 27 2013 01:07 GMT
#4880
Byul paranoid.
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