On October 26 2013 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
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Genius beat jaedong and 5000 people who want to think they're cool BW veterans fanboy rage at him by bandwagoning onto jaedong.

You forgot the part where Protoss is stupid and all they can do is cheesy imba all-ins

Its not particulary about that they "can only do that", but these kind of things are just soo unforgiving, jaedong got unlucky with his scouting 2 times and then has no chance at all to defend there. I mean i dont understand how you can argue against the shit that is warpgate, have your new built army instant there where you need it is just fking ridiculous oftentimes.. Protoss is just a gamble race, thats the reason why they are so strong in bo1's and you almost never see really great agmes out of PvX matchups.
And no i wont shut up or do something else, cause i enjoy every other matchup without protoss in it.

Do I have to keep doing this? [image loading]

If you cant argue, just keep doing it. That doesnt make your points (lol) more valid. If you think genius did play better cause he got the pylons there and did manage to have fantastic voidray micro (lol²), then yeah.
Its sad that that the tvt was by far the best match today, only cause every other match had a toss in it :/

TvT is the best match up in Sc2 period, it's the only match up I'll watch even if there are no players I care about, as long as it's high enough level.

And about Jaedong, look, I'm one of the biggest fanboys ever, but I'm not blind or stupid, and you'd have to be fucking crazy to think he had any real shot of wining this, or even make it out of the group. His play has been getting consistently worse the last few months, he looked shaky as hell in WCS NA, almost losing to Hack and then incomprehensible decision making and really poor reads cost him the series against Buyl. He

He just does not read the game anywhere near as well as needs to, in SC2 it's so incredibly easy to lose as zerg to a P or Z who just plays super aggressive, any I have seen nothing to suggest that he could make it through this murderer's row. I give him a decent shot at beating MMA, but it would surprise me greatly if he beats Hero or Genius. If they just do mixed all ins and weird cheeses every game, odds are it's going to work at least twice.

Take yer "Logic" and "Reason" elsewhere, being a blind and stupid fanboy is way more fun

Back when JD was making it to finals all the time but then fell just short, I really felt like he was close to a major breakthrough, like he was about to become the champion I so wanted him to be.

Now, he looks almost as lost and befuddled by the game as in WoL, he's not evolving, and at this point I have more or less come to terms with the idea that his best years are behind him and that he may never really become a world beater in SC2. I'm ok with that, I still value achievements in BW over pretty much anything else, but reality is what it is.

No one is constantly evolving. People have slumps. A few months of worsening results isn't indicative of anything, really.

JD looks he has devolved, that's the problem.

No he does not, wtf are you even talking about? He won vs hack (who plays extremely well lately, as you can see even today) and lost against a buyl who went full yolo. I dont see how that indicates anything.

NovemberstOrm

Canada16217 Posts

October 25 2013 21:35 GMT

#2631

Woo hero!

CruelZeratul

Germany4588 Posts

October 25 2013 21:36 GMT

#2632

On October 26 2013 06:33 CruelZeratul wrote:
Haha, Dear failing the engagements :D

Got to quote myself here after this bullshit control by Dear. Why lose the MSC?!?!?!

NovemberstOrm

Canada16217 Posts

October 25 2013 21:36 GMT

#2633

On October 26 2013 06:35 Qwyn wrote:
Hold on here, is there a way Jaedong can still make it out of his group? I will stay if that is at all possible.

yes he only lost 1 set

Noocta

France12578 Posts

October 25 2013 21:36 GMT

#2634

On October 26 2013 06:35 Qwyn wrote:
Hold on here, is there a way Jaedong can still make it out of his group? I will stay if that is at all possible.

It's possible but it's gonna be played tomorow

y0su

Finland7871 Posts

October 25 2013 21:36 GMT

#2635

soooooooo cloooooose

robson1

3632 Posts

October 25 2013 21:36 GMT

#2636

On October 26 2013 06:35 Qwyn wrote:
Hold on here, is there a way Jaedong can still make it out of his group? I will stay if that is at all possible.

lol yes. He's in the lower bracket now. He may very well win against MMA and the looser of Genius vs. Trap.

Shellshock

United States97277 Posts

October 25 2013 21:36 GMT

#2637

On October 26 2013 06:33 Shellshock wrote:

Show nested quote +

6:00
robo for HerO
5 stalkers pressuring the natural of HerO
observer for Dear
HerO warps in some more stalkers and moves down his natural ramp
Dear backs off briefly

7:00 H 42 vs D 49
photon overcharge on the natural nexus of HerO as Dear pokes in again
immortal for HerO
I might have missed something my video was stuttering pretty bad
Dear harassing the edge of HerO's base killing a pylon

8:00 H 61 vs D 61
Dear has a 10 probe lead
Robo bay for Dear
forge for Hero
observer for HerO

9:00 H 67 vs D 71
HerO moves out of his natural to chase Dear away
immortal out for Dear
colossus production started for Dear
3 more gates for Dear
+1 attack started for Dear
another gate for Dear
robo bay for herO
extended thermal lance research started for Dear

10:00 H 79 vs D 75
HerO has stopped probe production
Dear move commands into HerO's army and loses 4 stalkers
2 more gates for HerO
forge for Dear
2nd colossus for Dear
Dear turns around and heads back to his base
+1 attack started for Dear

11:00 H 89 vs D 91
Colossus production starte dfor HerO
Extended thermal lance research for HerO
twilight council for Dear

12:00 H 99 vs D 103
3rd base for Dear
+1 armor for HerO
twilight council for HerO
2nd forge for HerO
HerO scouts the warp prism of Dear

13:00 H 106 vs D 120
3rd base for HerO
+2 attack started for Dear
Dear gets a high ground position vs HerO
zealot drop in the main of HerO
Dear loses his MSC due to miscontrol
timewarp on the army of Dear
HerO moves up the ramp and kills both of Dear's colossi and the immortal
zealots in the main of HerO are cleaned up

14:00 H 113 vs D 95
HerO ahead 3-0 in immortal count, but colossus count is 2-2
Dear making archons
HerO attacking the 3rd of Dear
charge research for HerO
templar archives for HerO
time warp on the army of Dear
timewarp on the army of HerO
armies engage at the 3rd of HerO
both players trade armies

15:00 H 88 vs D 106
Dear is able to kill off 1 of HerO's colossi
Dear walks into stalkers of HerO and loses one of his own
+2 attack for HerO
charge research for Dear