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askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
September 24 2013 21:02 GMT
#1021
he's trying to kill him!!! dq welmu ;D
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 24 2013 21:03 GMT
#1022
surprised admins didn't stop that fight, was pretty dirty yo
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 24 2013 21:03 GMT
#1023
On September 25 2013 05:59 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 05:54 gedatsu wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:52 boxerfred wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:48 gedatsu wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:45 boxerfred wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:40 FeyFey wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:30 Jono7272 wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:29 FeyFey wrote:
Bunker placement bad again, but should be enough to win once Medivacs are out.

Where else do you place them?


In a way all attack and don't let the toss break into your position. The back 2 Bunkers were more hurting him then helping. Could have had one in the back for Marauders, otherwise one in the Mineral line could have allowed 4 Marines to hold that position and if the toss would have tried to deal with it given the Terran alot of time. But since you pull your workers anyway use the Orbital as cover so you have more space to place bunkers efficiently and negate their forcefields.


Anyway YAY Stardust !!!!!! One Bo3 left !


Show me one terran progamer who ever pre-emptively placed a bunker in his natural's mineral line when scouting a gateway allin. Just one. Then I'll approve that.

Once those stalkers get into it, you won't finish that bunker anymore.

I agree though that those two bunkers were misplaced. He could've created a bunker concave, but that would've blocked his SCVs from repair a bit.

It's probably better to sacrifice repair surface area for extra firepower.


So you're building those bunkers to provide additional hitpoints. Then you're telling me you sacrifice those additional hitpoints for firepower? Wait a sec.

I'm telling you that if you shoot from 4 bunkers instead of 2, the other guy will lose units faster and thus do less dps against your bunkers.


And I agree with you once stimpack is finished. But I do not agree with you before that breakpoint.

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On September 25 2013 05:54 DJHelium wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:52 boxerfred wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:48 gedatsu wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:45 boxerfred wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:40 FeyFey wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:30 Jono7272 wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:29 FeyFey wrote:
Bunker placement bad again, but should be enough to win once Medivacs are out.

Where else do you place them?


In a way all attack and don't let the toss break into your position. The back 2 Bunkers were more hurting him then helping. Could have had one in the back for Marauders, otherwise one in the Mineral line could have allowed 4 Marines to hold that position and if the toss would have tried to deal with it given the Terran alot of time. But since you pull your workers anyway use the Orbital as cover so you have more space to place bunkers efficiently and negate their forcefields.


Anyway YAY Stardust !!!!!! One Bo3 left !


Show me one terran progamer who ever pre-emptively placed a bunker in his natural's mineral line when scouting a gateway allin. Just one. Then I'll approve that.

Once those stalkers get into it, you won't finish that bunker anymore.

I agree though that those two bunkers were misplaced. He could've created a bunker concave, but that would've blocked his SCVs from repair a bit.

It's probably better to sacrifice repair surface area for extra firepower.


So you're building those bunkers to provide additional hitpoints. Then you're telling me you sacrifice those additional hitpoints for firepower? Wait a sec.


They also provide range and help vs forcefields, and as the first bunker falls you get extra surface area.


I get the idea of that, but since the zealots attack the first bunker (mainly), isn't the bunker for creating surface area for the other bunkers that can shoot at the zealots straight away? I mean, we're talking about ranged terran vs. half melee half ranged protoss. So creating surface area for dps shouldn't be a task for the terran, but even more for the protoss. Terran should try to keep enough surface for repair instead, especially regarding forcefields being thrown here and there (though Stardusts attack would've been even deadlier with like 1-2 sentries more in)



Should test it out! With no evidence, I stick with the pro players answer and believe bunkers in a line is the better choice.

Also, leaving bunkers in a line doesn't mean that you wont have surface area. You can leave a gap between each bunker.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 24 2013 21:08 GMT
#1024
I would like to see Stardust receive some aggression here rather than opt for something a bit riskier.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8516 Posts
September 24 2013 21:09 GMT
#1025
wtf 4 probes going down o_O
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 24 2013 21:10 GMT
#1026
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 24 2013 21:12 GMT
#1027
On September 25 2013 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o


Really fucking hard group too.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 24 2013 21:13 GMT
#1028
On September 25 2013 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o

That is a good ass group too holy hell.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 24 2013 21:14 GMT
#1029
On September 25 2013 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o


You mean WCS KR.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 24 2013 21:14 GMT
#1030
Lol, that's some boring tweet they're sharing with us :D
I want to see blood.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 24 2013 21:14 GMT
#1031
On September 25 2013 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o

Last time this happened I believe they delayed WCS AM
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 24 2013 21:15 GMT
#1032
On September 25 2013 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o

Last time this happened I believe they delayed WCS AM

i doubt this is gonna take more than another 45 mins from now on though. it's PvP.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 24 2013 21:16 GMT
#1033
On September 25 2013 06:14 Larkin wrote:
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On September 25 2013 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o


You mean WCS KR.

Wow you are so clever man. Good one!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 24 2013 21:16 GMT
#1034
On September 25 2013 06:15 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
On September 25 2013 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o

Last time this happened I believe they delayed WCS AM

i doubt this is gonna take more than another 45 mins from now on though. it's PvP.

probably not since it's not WoL turtle to 200/200 mothership pvp but it wouldn't be completely unprecedented for it to go that long with 3 games
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 21:17:58
September 24 2013 21:17 GMT
#1035
Cmon why won't they just pause when they have lag

E: There we go
Hello
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 24 2013 21:17 GMT
#1036
ESL GET OUT!


...no wait
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 24 2013 21:17 GMT
#1037
this could take quite long!
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 24 2013 21:17 GMT
#1038
Admin?!?!
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 24 2013 21:18 GMT
#1039
On September 25 2013 06:16 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 06:15 Schelim wrote:
On September 25 2013 06:14 Shellshock wrote:
On September 25 2013 06:10 GTPGlitch wrote:
WCS NA is gonna start before WCS EU ends o.o

Last time this happened I believe they delayed WCS AM

i doubt this is gonna take more than another 45 mins from now on though. it's PvP.

probably not since it's not WoL turtle to 200/200 mothership pvp but it wouldn't be completely unprecedented for it to go that long with 3 games

well the vehicle of esports just might drag it out for long enough
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
September 24 2013 21:18 GMT
#1040
I still can't believe how no admin or player not pauses right away when someone starts to lag.
hundred thousand krouner
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