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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 15 2013 17:36 GMT
#3001
On September 16 2013 02:35 pmp10 wrote:
Life should be the only non-terran to have a serious chance here.

Especially as he's the only non-Terran left indeed.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
September 15 2013 17:36 GMT
#3002
On September 16 2013 02:31 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:31 Jerom wrote:
I actually think Taeja will win this. I think he's the better Terran of the rest.


He has the best TvT at that tournament I guess. Though MMA is strong as well.


Aligulac is actually telling me Supernova has great TvT aswell.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 15 2013 17:36 GMT
#3003
On September 16 2013 02:30 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:28 stuchiu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:24 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:22 Extenz wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:18 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:16 stuchiu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:14 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:12 WhurreOdu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:08 Extenz wrote:
and protoss is out again, so much for being the most op race


Zerg is also not that overrepresented.

The terran participants at Bucharest are the best of their race at the moment (except Bomber ofc) whereas either Zerg nor Protoss had all of their big calibres here.

Could you name 5 "Big Name" Protoss players for me?


Rain
sOs
Parting
Hero
Super Vampire

oh and First.

Yeah, man those guys have been drowning in championships this year.


Cool then name better protosses., maybe naniwa instead of super /vampire


Protoss players dont win tournaments. That was obviously my point. 3 GSLS and 1 OSL, thats it.


They aren't always the best players either. They should have won 2012 season 2, but Mvp literally out thought and out will powered all of them.

They could have won 2012 season 3 gsl, but again Mvp out thought Rain.

At the top level, the racial balance doesn't mean nearly as much as composure, mental power, mental state.


Man that is a mind blowing coincidence that all the bad players happen to pick protoss.

What do you expect? Protoss is a race with by far the easiest macro and micro mechanics, and that leads to them either winning a ton or being balanced but not winning anything. There can be no other option so long as one race is balanced around having relatively easy to 'perfect' micro (forcefields, collosus target firing) then the opposing races will always have far better scaling potential.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
September 15 2013 17:36 GMT
#3004
I hava a feeling this could be the best series in the tournament so far.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
September 15 2013 17:36 GMT
#3005
On September 16 2013 02:34 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:32 EiBmoZ wrote:
... fuck terran... =\


Hey man that's racist


Just read it as an imperative.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 15 2013 17:36 GMT
#3006
On September 16 2013 02:36 Jerom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:31 Big J wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:31 Jerom wrote:
I actually think Taeja will win this. I think he's the better Terran of the rest.


He has the best TvT at that tournament I guess. Though MMA is strong as well.


Aligulac is actually telling me Supernova has great TvT aswell.


Supernova whipped MMA hard in that team league.
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 15 2013 17:37 GMT
#3007
On September 16 2013 02:36 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:34 Kasaraki wrote:
I don't understand what Artosis is saying, I don't remember Life's rise to power in the way he just described at all.


Well, his HotS MLG was the way Artosis described: Every Zerg just died and Life somehow won the entire tournament xD

True, but that wasn't when he rose to power. :o Also that MLG, Life and Leenock were like the only Korean zergs, haha.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 15 2013 17:37 GMT
#3008
On September 16 2013 02:34 Kasaraki wrote:
I don't understand what Artosis is saying, I don't remember Life's rise to power in the way he just described at all.


Life's rise to power occurred during the Summer of Taeja. Not surprising that it is overshadowed.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 15 2013 17:37 GMT
#3009
On September 16 2013 02:36 Jerom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:31 Big J wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:31 Jerom wrote:
I actually think Taeja will win this. I think he's the better Terran of the rest.


He has the best TvT at that tournament I guess. Though MMA is strong as well.


Aligulac is actually telling me Supernova has great TvT aswell.


He beat bomber in GSTL ^^
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 17:37:58
September 15 2013 17:37 GMT
#3010
On September 16 2013 02:36 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:30 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:28 stuchiu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:24 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:22 Extenz wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:18 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:16 stuchiu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:14 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:12 WhurreOdu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:08 Extenz wrote:
and protoss is out again, so much for being the most op race


Zerg is also not that overrepresented.

The terran participants at Bucharest are the best of their race at the moment (except Bomber ofc) whereas either Zerg nor Protoss had all of their big calibres here.

Could you name 5 "Big Name" Protoss players for me?


Rain
sOs
Parting
Hero
Super Vampire

oh and First.

Yeah, man those guys have been drowning in championships this year.


Cool then name better protosses., maybe naniwa instead of super /vampire


Protoss players dont win tournaments. That was obviously my point. 3 GSLS and 1 OSL, thats it.


They aren't always the best players either. They should have won 2012 season 2, but Mvp literally out thought and out will powered all of them.

They could have won 2012 season 3 gsl, but again Mvp out thought Rain.

At the top level, the racial balance doesn't mean nearly as much as composure, mental power, mental state.


Man that is a mind blowing coincidence that all the bad players happen to pick protoss.

What do you expect? Protoss is a race with by far the easiest macro and micro mechanics [...]


Is that true though? There's a lot of spell casting units in Protoss.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 15 2013 17:38 GMT
#3011
I never want a Zerg to win but in this DH, come on Life! Crush him!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 15 2013 17:38 GMT
#3012
Supernova is drunk, hes making tanks
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
September 15 2013 17:38 GMT
#3013
On September 16 2013 02:37 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:36 Swisslink wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:34 Kasaraki wrote:
I don't understand what Artosis is saying, I don't remember Life's rise to power in the way he just described at all.


Well, his HotS MLG was the way Artosis described: Every Zerg just died and Life somehow won the entire tournament xD

True, but that wasn't when he rose to power. :o Also that MLG, Life and Leenock were like the only Korean zergs, haha.


I know, Artosis probably mixed something up :-P
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 15 2013 17:38 GMT
#3014
On September 16 2013 02:37 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:36 bo1b wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:30 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:28 stuchiu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:24 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:22 Extenz wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:18 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:16 stuchiu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:14 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:12 WhurreOdu wrote:
[quote]

Zerg is also not that overrepresented.

The terran participants at Bucharest are the best of their race at the moment (except Bomber ofc) whereas either Zerg nor Protoss had all of their big calibres here.

Could you name 5 "Big Name" Protoss players for me?


Rain
sOs
Parting
Hero
Super Vampire

oh and First.

Yeah, man those guys have been drowning in championships this year.


Cool then name better protosses., maybe naniwa instead of super /vampire


Protoss players dont win tournaments. That was obviously my point. 3 GSLS and 1 OSL, thats it.


They aren't always the best players either. They should have won 2012 season 2, but Mvp literally out thought and out will powered all of them.

They could have won 2012 season 3 gsl, but again Mvp out thought Rain.

At the top level, the racial balance doesn't mean nearly as much as composure, mental power, mental state.


Man that is a mind blowing coincidence that all the bad players happen to pick protoss.

What do you expect? Protoss is a race with by far the easiest macro and micro mechanics [...]


Is that true though? There's a lot of spell casting units in Protoss.


"high templars in warpprism is too hard to do"
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3402 Posts
September 15 2013 17:38 GMT
#3015
Ohh tanks.
This could be Mvp style contain or 2 base mech all-in.
Nothera
Profile Joined March 2013
Czech Republic14 Posts
September 15 2013 17:39 GMT
#3016
Nice balance blizzard, no protoss player in finals since Stardust surprise lucky build wins.

User was warned for this post
Wings of liberty - terran OP and zerg OP, HoTS terran OP and zerg OP...can't wait for Legacy of Void..hahahhaha
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 15 2013 17:39 GMT
#3017
gogo bomber-style tvz?
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 15 2013 17:39 GMT
#3018
On September 16 2013 02:38 pmp10 wrote:
Ohh tanks.
This could be Mvp style contain or 2 base mech all-in.

Just a safe opening.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
September 15 2013 17:39 GMT
#3019
On September 16 2013 02:36 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:30 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:28 stuchiu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:24 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:22 Extenz wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:18 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:16 stuchiu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:14 sc2holar wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:12 WhurreOdu wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:08 Extenz wrote:
and protoss is out again, so much for being the most op race


Zerg is also not that overrepresented.

The terran participants at Bucharest are the best of their race at the moment (except Bomber ofc) whereas either Zerg nor Protoss had all of their big calibres here.

Could you name 5 "Big Name" Protoss players for me?


Rain
sOs
Parting
Hero
Super Vampire

oh and First.

Yeah, man those guys have been drowning in championships this year.


Cool then name better protosses., maybe naniwa instead of super /vampire


Protoss players dont win tournaments. That was obviously my point. 3 GSLS and 1 OSL, thats it.


They aren't always the best players either. They should have won 2012 season 2, but Mvp literally out thought and out will powered all of them.

They could have won 2012 season 3 gsl, but again Mvp out thought Rain.

At the top level, the racial balance doesn't mean nearly as much as composure, mental power, mental state.


Man that is a mind blowing coincidence that all the bad players happen to pick protoss.

What do you expect? Protoss is a race with by far the easiest macro and micro mechanics, and that leads to them either winning a ton or being balanced but not winning anything. There can be no other option so long as one race is balanced around having relatively easy to 'perfect' micro (forcefields, collosus target firing) then the opposing races will always have far better scaling potential.

How is Protoss Micro easier than Zerg Micro?
you no take candle
SSVnormandy
Profile Joined July 2012
France392 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 17:41:01
September 15 2013 17:39 GMT
#3020
why there are so much terran ? This is nothing about balance or anything look at koreans that didn't make the move to dreamhack :

Rain, Soulkey, Dongraegu, Scarlett, Parting. Those guys are actually the top of their race atm but they didnt move.

Now look at how many terran star moved to dreamhack : Taeja, Innovation, Supernova, MMA, ForGG, Flash.

So maybe if top protoss and zerg players move their ass they could win this kind of event . It's sure not even going in will not help them.

DRG or soulkey could definitively claim this tournament.

EDIT : Ok scarlett is not korean but kind of
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