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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 23 2013 12:04 GMT
#1401
On September 23 2013 20:58 playa wrote:
They need to start awarding wins to zergs if they can simply survive "x" long against terran. If this game is balanced at all, zergs need to find a new race/game.


They need to make you idiots shut up. We have seen multiple games from various Zergs now against the best TvZ player in the world and they go toe to toe. DRG won. hyvaa came real close. Curious showed a very good game. If you believe every Zerg should be able to go toe to toe with the best Terran in the world, maybe you can ask yourself why besides the very top level, Terrans to underperform by a ton.

Just my two cents to the people who always cry. Jesus most Zergs were crying when they had broodlord infestor.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
September 23 2013 12:04 GMT
#1402
On September 23 2013 21:02 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 20:58 playa wrote:
They need to start awarding wins to zergs if they can simply survive "x" long against terran. If this game is balanced at all, zergs need to find a new race/game.

Terran on 6 bases containing Zerg on 4 bases for years, proceeds to lose mass CCs because you can never catch mutas and can't afford 10 Turrets per base; meanwhile, Zerg masses ultras/infests and would have probably won the main engagement had mutas not been away in main killing buildings; still finds a way to complain anyway.

let alone it's the best TvZer in the world playing.
Michael Probu
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 23 2013 12:06 GMT
#1403
Poor San. It just wasn't his day today. You'll get them next time!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
September 23 2013 12:07 GMT
#1404
Is there a page where I could see results? None of the brackets I checked are updated.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
September 23 2013 12:07 GMT
#1405
On September 23 2013 21:02 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 20:58 playa wrote:
They need to start awarding wins to zergs if they can simply survive "x" long against terran. If this game is balanced at all, zergs need to find a new race/game.

Terran on 6 bases containing Zerg on 4 bases for years, proceeds to lose mass CCs because you can never catch mutas and can't afford 10 Turrets per base; meanwhile, Zerg masses ultras/infests and would have probably won the main engagement had mutas not been away in main killing buildings; still finds a way to complain anyway.


Tired of seeing the same thing every game. I never even get to to consider whether zerg will win in a macro game or not. It's simply a curiosity/amusement of how long can they survive. It's like watching a movie but already knowing the ending. No suspense. Z vs T wasn't balanced in WoL when zerg always won and terran players aren't innately better now.

If the general consensus in SC 2 is T vs Z is the best mu to watch... SC 2 is in worse shape than people are letting on to. This mu is horrible. T vs Z in BW was 10000 times better. In BW, you could actually have your units meant for harassment (mutas) stay as that... maybe they can force zerg to start attacking with their workers too. Such an incomplete and horrible mu. I like how medivacs have free reign too. Huge fucking improvement. Mu is gross in every respect.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 23 2013 12:07 GMT
#1406
On September 23 2013 21:07 NicksonReyes wrote:
Is there a page where I could see results? None of the brackets I checked are updated.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_New_York/Asia_Final_Qualifier
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
September 23 2013 12:08 GMT
#1407
On September 23 2013 21:07 NicksonReyes wrote:
Is there a page where I could see results? None of the brackets I checked are updated.



Here : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_New_York/Asia_Final_Qualifier
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
September 23 2013 12:09 GMT
#1408
On September 23 2013 21:07 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:07 NicksonReyes wrote:
Is there a page where I could see results? None of the brackets I checked are updated.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_New_York/Asia_Final_Qualifier

Thanks. I was refreshing http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_New_York/Korean_and_Taiwan_Qualifier the whole time lol -_-
"Start yo" -FlaSh
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 23 2013 12:11 GMT
#1409
On September 23 2013 21:07 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:02 TheDwf wrote:
On September 23 2013 20:58 playa wrote:
They need to start awarding wins to zergs if they can simply survive "x" long against terran. If this game is balanced at all, zergs need to find a new race/game.

Terran on 6 bases containing Zerg on 4 bases for years, proceeds to lose mass CCs because you can never catch mutas and can't afford 10 Turrets per base; meanwhile, Zerg masses ultras/infests and would have probably won the main engagement had mutas not been away in main killing buildings; still finds a way to complain anyway.


Tired of seeing the same thing every game. I never even get to to consider whether zerg will win in a macro game or not. It's simply a curiosity/amusement of how long can they survive. It's like watching a movie but already knowing the ending. No suspense. Z vs T wasn't balanced in WoL when zerg always won and terran players aren't innately better now.

If the general consensus in SC 2 is T vs Z is the best mu to watch... SC 2 is in worse shape than people are letting on to. This mu is horrible. T vs Z in BW was 10000 times better. In BW, you could actually have your units meant for harassment (mutas) stay as that... maybe they can force zerg to start attacking with their workers too. Such an incomplete and horrible mu. I like how medivacs have free reign too. Huge fucking improvement. Mu is gross in every respect.

You should have opened your eyes during the 10 minuts mutas spent rampaging Bogus' bases then.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 23 2013 12:11 GMT
#1410
terrible mistake by curious
TL+ Member
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 23 2013 12:11 GMT
#1411
Guess we found someone using F2
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
September 23 2013 12:13 GMT
#1412
Curious' play is so crisp!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 23 2013 12:15 GMT
#1413
Curious is playing this pretty well still
AdministratorBreak the chains
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 23 2013 12:18 GMT
#1414
i dont get why inno is building turrets at all. he has so much gas and 2 mines can do much more
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 23 2013 12:18 GMT
#1415
I came back because I heard this game was pretty "cray cray"
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
September 23 2013 12:18 GMT
#1416
On September 23 2013 21:04 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 20:58 playa wrote:
They need to start awarding wins to zergs if they can simply survive "x" long against terran. If this game is balanced at all, zergs need to find a new race/game.


They need to make you idiots shut up. We have seen multiple games from various Zergs now against the best TvZ player in the world and they go toe to toe. DRG won. hyvaa came real close. Curious showed a very good game. If you believe every Zerg should be able to go toe to toe with the best Terran in the world, maybe you can ask yourself why besides the very top level, Terrans to underperform by a ton.

Just my two cents to the people who always cry. Jesus most Zergs were crying when they had broodlord infestor.


You know the matchup is good when we can remember a zerg once winning and another few coming close
hundred thousand krouner
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 23 2013 12:18 GMT
#1417
i almost got a heart attack with these mines
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 23 2013 12:19 GMT
#1418
On September 23 2013 21:18 graNite wrote:
i dont get why inno is building turrets at all. he has so much gas and 2 mines can do much more

Because Mines cost supply, plus 25+ mutas barely care about 1-2 Mine(s) in defence.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 12:21:13
September 23 2013 12:20 GMT
#1419
On September 23 2013 21:18 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:04 NarutO wrote:
On September 23 2013 20:58 playa wrote:
They need to start awarding wins to zergs if they can simply survive "x" long against terran. If this game is balanced at all, zergs need to find a new race/game.


They need to make you idiots shut up. We have seen multiple games from various Zergs now against the best TvZ player in the world and they go toe to toe. DRG won. hyvaa came real close. Curious showed a very good game. If you believe every Zerg should be able to go toe to toe with the best Terran in the world, maybe you can ask yourself why besides the very top level, Terrans to underperform by a ton.

Just my two cents to the people who always cry. Jesus most Zergs were crying when they had broodlord infestor.


You know the matchup is good when we can remember a zerg once winning and another few coming close


against _the best_ TvZ player on the planet? Do I need to quote the statistics from Korea with 43% TvZ to get you back onto track? But since I did put effort into gathering all those games it was "me faking statistics" when in reality thats how it looks like when its not the top Terrans on the map.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 23 2013 12:21 GMT
#1420
On September 23 2013 21:18 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:04 NarutO wrote:
On September 23 2013 20:58 playa wrote:
They need to start awarding wins to zergs if they can simply survive "x" long against terran. If this game is balanced at all, zergs need to find a new race/game.


They need to make you idiots shut up. We have seen multiple games from various Zergs now against the best TvZ player in the world and they go toe to toe. DRG won. hyvaa came real close. Curious showed a very good game. If you believe every Zerg should be able to go toe to toe with the best Terran in the world, maybe you can ask yourself why besides the very top level, Terrans to underperform by a ton.

Just my two cents to the people who always cry. Jesus most Zergs were crying when they had broodlord infestor.


You know the matchup is good when we can remember a zerg once winning and another few coming close


This is against Innovation only. There are plenty of TvZ macro games where the Zerg won. Dimaga v Flash?
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