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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5661
Ok this tournament had GREAT games but the finals were indeed disappointing and didn't leave you with that super feel-good feeling like after a Dreamhack. Still; GGs
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 15:23:34
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5662
The only opponent bomber had to win was Taeja. Either JD or First would had been a stomp, he knew it.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5663
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grindC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany274 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5664
On August 26 2013 00:21 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:20 Milkis wrote:
이제동네콩


"Now the neighbourhood beans"

Wut?

I think it means: "Lee Jae Dong the Kong"
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5665
On August 26 2013 00:20 Stratos_speAr wrote:
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On August 26 2013 00:18 Redfish wrote:
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting really bored with just a bunch of rallied barracks and marines winning these tournaments? If I'm a new player trying to get into Starcraft, this isn't all that exciting.


It's why SC2 will always be nothing more than a niche market and not a mainstream e-sport.

Seriously, so many blowout finals recently. Balance discussion doesn't matter. It's just not entertaining.


not really. Just stop.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5666
On August 26 2013 00:18 NarutO wrote:
Bomber doesn't really look all that happy :/

maybe ST took all the money afterall
-Terran-
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5667
On August 26 2013 00:22 Incognoto wrote:
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On August 26 2013 00:18 udgnim wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:16 Kiran wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:14 Zerker88 wrote:
Bomber didn't even used widows mines in the last one. More whines plz.


he didn´t use mines in the last game, when jd´s nerves already got the better end of him. it still felt like terran can a-move and win. and muta-ling-bane has still the same problem with 3-3 not being available until you wait ages for infestation pit and then hive to finish.

not to say this is all a fact of imbalance, but the current meta-game is clearly not in favor of zerg.


that's on Jaedong

SoulKey was down 3-0 to Innovation and came back 4-3 to beat him


On the back of all-ins up to the last game. Soulkey literally all-in'd or cheese'd 3 games straight to bring it to the final game. Then he won on the back of incredible play but also on the fact that Innovation had nerves and managed to lose 3 medivacs full of units.

Also that finals was almost a season ago, you'll notice that innovation beat Soulkey in both their re-matches (I could be wrong I think?) in one-sided series.


Agree but the thing with Soulkey is even when he loses, he loses with style.
Some of the best Zerg vs T play I've seen is Soulkey losing... lol.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5668
On August 26 2013 00:23 HolydaKing wrote:
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On August 26 2013 00:22 Kiran wrote:
still feels like a sad day for starcraft.

Definitely wasn't good advertisement, that last day.


Bomber is an awesome champion.
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5669
On August 26 2013 00:19 Daogin wrote:
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On August 26 2013 00:18 Redfish wrote:
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting really bored with just a bunch of rallied barracks and marines winning these tournaments? If I'm a new player trying to get into Starcraft, this isn't all that exciting.

Is it just me, or does everyone not see the reason bomber actually fucking won? He used old tactics and strategies that Jaedong wouldn't know, thus Jaedong had no idea how to beat him or deal with it, he was outsmarted which is why it looked so lackluster and shitty.


can you tell me some old starts zerg can use to win games? infestors, broodlords? :D

i'm happy coz of JD because i thought he will be eliminated in group.. and he got to the finals.. game will be fixed sooner or later and then we will have zerg champions from time to time
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5670
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
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On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.

scarlett vs jaedong would have been better than jaedong vs bomber, yes, by a lot. they already played a series and it was great so... yep

almost nothing could have been worse than this
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44312 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5671
On August 26 2013 00:20 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:18 Redfish wrote:
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting really bored with just a bunch of rallied barracks and marines winning these tournaments? If I'm a new player trying to get into Starcraft, this isn't all that exciting.


It's why SC2 will always be nothing more than a niche market and not a mainstream e-sport.

Seriously, so many blowout finals recently. It's just not entertaining.

i know this is not the same to BW but i dont strategy on tvz anymore .. its just nonstop macro push .. if blizzard would just bring mech back to the table so that we can see variety and even a little bit of tactics
this is a quote
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5672
Jaedong will need to be named the King of Silver.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
HerrHorst
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany140 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5673
On August 26 2013 00:21 Valikyr wrote:
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On August 26 2013 00:18 Redfish wrote:
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting really bored with just a bunch of rallied barracks and marines winning these tournaments? If I'm a new player trying to get into Starcraft, this isn't all that exciting.

ZvT is really bad right now idd.


Yeah, its absolutly terrible that in HoTs Zerg don't have an easy win strategy anymore
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5674
On August 26 2013 00:20 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:18 Redfish wrote:
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting really bored with just a bunch of rallied barracks and marines winning these tournaments? If I'm a new player trying to get into Starcraft, this isn't all that exciting.


It's why SC2 will always be nothing more than a niche market and not a mainstream e-sport.

Seriously, so many blowout finals recently. It's just not entertaining.


Bomber's Semi-Finals and Quarter-Finals were very close. Go watch Bomber vs Scarlett. It was Epic. Jaedong seems to have been hyper-focused on ZvP. Maybe his versus Terran play suffered. He also lost in a blowout in the WCS America Finals (against Polt).
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5675
On August 26 2013 00:20 Milkis wrote:
이제동네콩


7. ENGLISH IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE
Ceci est un site anglophone.

Ver sa vennlig a benytt engelsk pa disse sidene.

Engels is de officiele taal van deze site, gaarne geen andere taal gebruiken dan Engels.

영어 전용 사이트입니다. 영어를 사용 해주세요.

このサイトは英語を共通語とするので、サイトへの書き込みは原則として英語でお願いします。

Diese Seite ist offiziell in Englisch gehalten.

Inglés es el lenguaje oficial de este sitio.

Use English, and please make at least a moderate attempt to spell check and type coherently. It doesn't matter how brilliant or insightful your posts are if nobody can understand them.


KADAVERBB!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5676
Jaekong rule is more powerful than Bomber's Law apparently.

What a shame for him, 0-4 in WCS NA finals, 0-4 in WCS Finals finals.
That's gotta be demoralizing.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5677
On August 26 2013 00:22 Killmouse wrote:
since scarlett 2-3 Bomber in a nailbiting series, can we say Scarlett is the best ZvTer?

Life beat Scarlett in RSL, then proceeded to beat Bomber 4-2 so take that with a grain of salt.
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dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
August 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#5678
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.


Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
August 25 2013 15:24 GMT
#5679
On August 26 2013 00:19 Shinta) wrote:
That was the worst "end of the show" segment I've ever seen at a premier tournament...
Awesome for Bomber though. I was really hoping for these results ;D


You must have never watched an MLG
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
August 25 2013 15:24 GMT
#5680
I wanted First to be in the finals but he played so bad
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