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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#5041
On August 25 2013 02:00 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:56 BackSideAttack wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:54 bo1b wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:51 BackSideAttack wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:47 bo1b wrote:
People wonder why eg-tl was so hyped to do well in proleague when the potential that some of the players on that combined team is insane


You know doing well at a foreign tournament when you are used to traveling is completely different than Proleague. Not only do the Kespa players care more about Proleague, they have an entire organization complete with experienced staff there to prepare every player for every game. Couple that with no traveling, which the kespa players are obviously not used to as evidenced by numerous interviews at previous MLG events.

Taeja has tremendous experience playing these weekend tournaments and frequently travels. He obviously is going to do better in these games than bo1 games where you spend an entire week practicing for.

I get that, but the players just played like trash comparatively to what they'd played like before. Taeja's only just getting back into that groove of stomping everyone.

I'm mega biased too, so excuse my giddyness :D


Well yeah its a different format. Plus even if EG-TL had the same proleague resources as Kespa, they still wouldn't be able to do as well because of commitments to streaming and traveling to foreign tournaments. Also Rain played pretty poorly in these games, especially when he walked into the open with those collosus in game 2.


Well, I guess that is why EG-TL did poorly in Proleague, because their players focused on individual leagues. For people making excuses for Kespa players doing poorly, the same can be applied to EG-TL for Proleague.


EG-TL did poorly in PL for a variety of reasons, including lack of depth, Taeja being injured, lack of team cohesion, etc.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#5042
On August 25 2013 01:58 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:57 StarStruck wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:45 Zealously wrote:
Called it (almost)

Rain not playing as well as he can though


Dude hasn't been playing well since Round 4 of PL and he wasn't helping SKT1 either in the clutch. Makes me wonder why they kept sending him out as the last guy.

Because just in the middle of the last round of proleague he had over 70% win rate...


Go through the statistics again. In the last round he was less than 50% in Ace Matches. I find it hard to believe that you would be trying to make an argument for Round 6 when in reality he fumbled more in round 5 and 6 then he did in round 4. Please make some sense.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
August 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#5043
On August 25 2013 02:00 lichter wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:58 Disengaged wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:53 Arco wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:51 Muffloe wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:50 Arco wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:49 Muffloe wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:48 Arco wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:46 LogiiK wrote:
where is kespa ?

Jaedong, hi.


EG bro


8 years as a KeSPA player, bro.


Then why do you count parting as kespa? such hypocrisy, is unbeleviable...

Where did I say that?

If you want to get technical, Parting was a practice partner for eStro.


You see that?

Thats the point.

Flying over your head.


Flying was also on eSTRO

I expected it. I still spat all over the screen.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#5044
On August 25 2013 02:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On August 25 2013 02:01 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2013 02:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Scarlett vs Jaedong bo7 6 pools every game

why would they make 6 pools every game? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

lots of late game harass. they're only 200 minerals so I think it's fine to make multiple pools so you dont get screwed by losing your only one


For double upgrades
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 17:03:09
August 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#5045
On August 25 2013 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Ho ho ho ho

    (1) Scarlett  0-0  Bomber (9999)      
---------------------------------------------
100% 3-0 0-3 33.33%
0% 3-1 1-3 33.33%
0% 3-2 2-3 33.33%
---------------------------------------------
0% 100%

Median outcome: Scarlett 0-3 Bomber

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

fixed
The Bomber boy
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
August 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#5046
Whem will the semis be played tomorrow?
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5047
On August 25 2013 02:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Ho ho ho ho

    (1726) Scarlett  0-0  Bomber (1725)      
---------------------------------------------
100% 3-0 0-3 33.33%
0% 3-1 1-3 33.33%
0% 3-2 2-3 33.33%
---------------------------------------------
0% 100%

Median outcome: Scarlett 1-3 Bomber

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

fixed

She's beat him before in a bo3.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5048
On August 25 2013 02:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Ho ho ho ho

    (1726) Scarlett  0-0  Bomber (1725)      
---------------------------------------------
100% 3-0 0-3 33.33%
0% 3-1 1-3 33.33%
0% 3-2 2-3 33.33%
---------------------------------------------
0% 100%

Median outcome: Scarlett 0-3 Bomber

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

fixed

No bias detected~
kiss kiss fall in love
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5049
excellent introduction there by redeye.

Gogo scarlett
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5050
On August 25 2013 02:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Ho ho ho ho

    (1726) Scarlett  0-0  Bomber (1725)      
---------------------------------------------
100% 3-0 0-3 33.33%
0% 3-1 1-3 33.33%
0% 3-2 2-3 33.33%
---------------------------------------------
0% 100%

Median outcome: Scarlett 1-3 Bomber

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

fixed

100% chance for scarlett to 3-0 but 33% chance for bomber to win in any way. Bomber fan math logic
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5051
On August 25 2013 02:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Ho ho ho ho

    (1726) Scarlett  0-0  Bomber (1725)      
---------------------------------------------
100% 3-0 0-3 33.33%
0% 3-1 1-3 33.33%
0% 3-2 2-3 33.33%
---------------------------------------------
0% 100%

Median outcome: Scarlett 0-3 Bomber

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

fixed

Pretty sure you got it the wrong way around
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5052
On August 25 2013 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Ho ho ho ho

    (1726) Scarlett  0-0  Bomber (1725)      
---------------------------------------------
12.53% 3-0 0-3 12.47%
18.78% 3-1 1-3 18.72%
18.77% 3-2 2-3 18.73%
---------------------------------------------
50.08% 49.92%

Median outcome: Scarlett 3-2 Bomber

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.



Why is it so close?
As far as I remember I haven't seen Bomber winning a TvZ in quite some time (Ok, he beat Shine in S1). Not because he had insanely good opponents, but because he played something between sloppy and fucking horrible.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5053
On August 25 2013 02:02 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:58 Abominous wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:57 StarStruck wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:45 Zealously wrote:
Called it (almost)

Rain not playing as well as he can though


Dude hasn't been playing well since Round 4 of PL and he wasn't helping SKT1 either in the clutch. Makes me wonder why they kept sending him out as the last guy.

Because just in the middle of the last round of proleague he had over 70% win rate...


Go through the statistics again. In the last round he was less than 50% in Ace Matches. I find it hard to believe that you would be trying to make an argument for Round 6 when in reality he fumbled more in round 5 and 6 then he did in round 4. Please make some sense.


As an aside, half the posts I see from you are you arguing that Rain is a poor clutch / ace player. It's kind of funny to see
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5054
is that enough crowd for you now? -.-
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5055
Bomber is definately amazing right now, but Scarlett is great too, and she had a group with 3 terrans already. So I hope this (the practice) will get her through
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5056
On August 25 2013 02:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Ho ho ho ho

    (1) Scarlett  0-0  Bomber (9999)      
---------------------------------------------
100% 3-0 0-3 33.33%
0% 3-1 1-3 33.33%
0% 3-2 2-3 33.33%
---------------------------------------------
0% 100%

Median outcome: Scarlett 0-3 Bomber

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

fixed



I call bullshit on that one
champinjonen
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden182 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5057
COME ON BOMBER!
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5058
gogo Scarlett~!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5059
Bomber!
Fut am Bam
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
August 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#5060
On August 25 2013 02:03 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 02:02 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:58 Boucot wrote:
Ho ho ho ho

    (1726) Scarlett  0-0  Bomber (1725)      
---------------------------------------------
100% 3-0 0-3 33.33%
0% 3-1 1-3 33.33%
0% 3-2 2-3 33.33%
---------------------------------------------
0% 100%

Median outcome: Scarlett 1-3 Bomber

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

fixed

She's beat him before in a bo3.

But terrans got widow mines and bombervacs now.
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