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On August 25 2013 01:32 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:31 BigAsia wrote:On August 25 2013 01:30 Faruko wrote:Guys actually like this kind of game ? this remind why SC its not the king of eSports anymore  boring ^ This... not impressed lol really? This tournament has been full of great games and you nitpick this to bitch about?
not to mention that game was so high level its crazy, the micro required to move those armies around and have constant trades between storms and feedbacks to emps and snipes, it was a tense game.
Was it the most entertaining game? no but it sure as hell was one high level game.
some people watch sc2 just for that.
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On August 25 2013 01:35 NPF wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:33 sc2holar wrote:
Mass Orbital commands = legit cheating Wasn't it Boxer who did this first in excess at GSL season 2 or something? Also I've been joking that WCS season 3 will be in Canada and I just learned it's true!!
Boxer vs Hyperdub Shakuras Plateau
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On August 25 2013 01:33 Bam Lee wrote:
So basically protoss has to win before terran gets mass orbitals
The protoss has to make sure to not to lose 3 colossi, get his nexi sniped over and over, then soft contained.
The orbitals were a result of taeja dominating rain. He completely outplayed him that game.
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We need more maps with rocks =)
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On August 25 2013 01:32 Raambo11 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:31 sparklyresidue wrote:On August 25 2013 01:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Are terran players still complaining about TvP lategame? that wasn't really a balanced game to analyze to be fair, First looked pretty terrifying against aLive. that said, from the ouside, the matchup seems not to be too badly balanced. When you play so flawlessly you don't eat a single deadly storm for 20 minutes you deserve to win.
uhh did you not read what i wrote?
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People complain about sc2 not really being an "RTS" in the sense that there is no strategy
->people complain when strategy is actually the centerpiece of a game
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On August 25 2013 01:35 y0su wrote:
seems everyone is focusing on what the two armies did for the last 10 minutes instead of everything taeja did to be in a position to keep rain's bank low.
In most games a protoss would just rebuild after that huge engagement. This time only Taeja was able to get his population to bounce back.
Rain was on 60 Probes when entering lategame because he was already behind by midgame. Normally Protoss is on 70-75 probes with a much earlier fourth, allowing a Tempest transition, Cannons everywhere, much more harass, etc.
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On August 25 2013 01:35 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:32 TheDwf wrote:On August 25 2013 01:30 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 25 2013 01:28 rshawer wrote:
UltLate game is always protoss favored So what counters Mass Viking/Cloaked Ghost? Anything that can move and detect is countered by Vikings and scans. Cloak handles the rest. Tempests, Observers following your Colossi. It also helps not to enter lategame massively behind; if people think 10 macro OCs 180 army size is the norm for each lategame TvP, they're fairly deluded. Tempests are terrible against Vikings.
In high numbers Tempests wreck Vikings. You need to get there first though
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On August 25 2013 01:35 Cokefreak wrote:
Everytime ToD says 'forget' I hear 'fourgate' and go wtf
i always hear rotti say "turd" instead of "third" and smile xD
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On August 25 2013 01:35 ratbert wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:34 Rabiator wrote:On August 25 2013 01:33 quainter wrote:
this German zombie crowds...will they ever cheer? They probably have been there for 8 hours without rising, eating or doing other things ... and this game was pretty sleep inducing to be honest. he posted the same exact thing about 39 times already yesterday and today -_-
Thats because im so pissed at them spoiling the atmosphere of this premier tournament!
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On August 25 2013 01:33 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:32 StarStruck wrote:On August 25 2013 01:30 Bagration wrote:
Kespa is failing so hard this tournament. Not used to international travel, eh? They've flopped many times before man. Not just here. Remember MLG? Exactly: International travel
oh yea and WCS KR Season 2, oh wait...
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United Kingdom3482 Posts
That scan couldn't have been more perfect.
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80k on main stream, possibility for 100k for Scarlett-Bomber ? 
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On August 25 2013 01:35 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:34 Zambrah wrote:On August 25 2013 01:32 Zarahtra wrote:On August 25 2013 01:30 Zambrah wrote:On August 25 2013 01:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Are terran players still complaining about TvP lategame? They'll be back when another Protoss win happens, don't worry.  Did you guys watch the same game I did? Taeja was far far far far far far far far ahead all game long, but couldn't close it. Don't get me wrong, Rain did play superbly surviving for so long, but that game I'd argue T should rather be complaining about than P defending current TvP balance. Im not seeing a reason to complain when all that I see is Terrans beating Protoss and Protoss beating Terran. "couldn't close it" is probably also not necessarily accurate. Its more like TaeJa being okay with patiently waiting for the safest point to crush Rain at. No, because if you misstep trying to close it you can end like Alive.
Taeja could have had to misstep pretty fucking hard to lose that. Like, eat Storms like he was a fat kid at an ice cream buffet.
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On August 25 2013 01:34 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:33 Arco wrote:On August 25 2013 01:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Are terran players still complaining about TvP lategame? You've gotta be joking. That game was over for 20 minutes because Rain had terribly low economy. At one point he was on one base while Taeja was on 3 with tons of Orbitals behind. Rain played horrible and lost that game due to his stubbornness to actually expand. The sad part is that Taeja had to wait so long to kill Rain because of how ridiculously strong Protoss 200/200 army is in PvT. If anything, that game displayed how ridiculous Protoss is that it can live for 20 minutes on 1-2 bases against a massive Terran economy. I play Protoss, so no bias here. you mean the part where they didnt attack each other for those 20 minutes. and when they did, the toss army got rekt?
Terran had 170 army supply, due to sacrificing his SCVs. It was ridiculous how far ahead Taeja was. You need bank and good economy in that situation to reinforce to finish off the Terran army. Not to mention time, so preferably engaging on the Terran's side of the map.
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On August 25 2013 01:32 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:30 Bagration wrote:
Kespa is failing so hard this tournament. Not used to international travel, eh? They've flopped many times before man. Not just here. Remember MLG?
Those weren't the top tier kespa players. Also they interviewed Rain at the last mlg he was at, and he said fatigue and being not used to traveling is really hurting him.
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Austria24417 Posts
Taeja's summer is in full effect
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see this is why having progamers (or former ones) as casters is so awesome. ToD can give so much insight into the mind of a top player in various psychological situations in a tournament and it's fucking beautiful.
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On August 25 2013 01:34 TigerKarl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 01:32 Baroninthetree wrote:On August 25 2013 01:30 Ragnarork wrote:On August 25 2013 01:29 bo1b wrote:
This game will be voted as one of the greatest of all time. And just like mvp vs top it really shouldn't be It wasn't the greatest of all time. But that was, although boring, the showcase of very solid play from both sides. And that counts too. Seeing very good starcraft compensate for the fact that it was a bit boring. this is boring to those not playing the game. But it is so intense to watch for a high tank scii player. The dancing is beautiful. you're tricking yourself into feeling elitist and happy. good trick
Haha I am. And the feelings doesn't exist for many, and not just in Starcraft.
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