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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44098 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4601
On August 25 2013 01:32 Wildmoon wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:31 BigAsia wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:30 Faruko wrote:
Guys actually like this kind of game ? this remind why SC its not the king of eSports anymore boring


^ This... not impressed lol


really? This tournament has been full of great games and you nitpick this to bitch about?

actually if you have seen enough tvp .. that was a really beautiful play from taeja .. very meticulous
this is a quote
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4602
On August 25 2013 01:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:30 MavivaM wrote:
Twenty-two.
Observers sniped.
Through all the fucking game.


28 before the big fight

Are you sure?
Because I was thinking about write down a compilation of his most obs-killing games for his fanclub... do you recall any other notable games?
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4603
On August 25 2013 01:32 Baroninthetree wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:30 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:29 bo1b wrote:
This game will be voted as one of the greatest of all time. And just like mvp vs top it really shouldn't be


It wasn't the greatest of all time.

But that was, although boring, the showcase of very solid play from both sides. And that counts too. Seeing very good starcraft compensate for the fact that it was a bit boring.

this is boring to those not playing the game.
But it is so intense to watch for a high tank scii player. The dancing is beautiful.

you're tricking yourself into feeling elitist and happy. good trick
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7288 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4604
On August 25 2013 01:32 Zarahtra wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:30 Zambrah wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Are terran players still complaining about TvP lategame?


They'll be back when another Protoss win happens, don't worry.

Did you guys watch the same game I did? Taeja was far far far far far far far far ahead all game long, but couldn't close it. Don't get me wrong, Rain did play superbly surviving for so long, but that game I'd argue T should rather be complaining about than P defending current TvP balance.


Im not seeing a reason to complain when all that I see is Terrans beating Protoss and Protoss beating Terran.

"couldn't close it" is probably also not necessarily accurate. Its more like TaeJa being okay with patiently waiting for the safest point to crush Rain at.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4605
On August 25 2013 01:32 StarStruck wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:30 Bagration wrote:
Kespa is failing so hard this tournament. Not used to international travel, eh?


They've flopped many times before man. Not just here. Remember MLG?

But these are arguably the best KeSPA players, while at MLG there were just soO, Dear and Stats.
Metak
Profile Joined August 2011
296 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4606
On August 25 2013 01:33 Bam Lee wrote:
So basically protoss has to win before terran gets mass orbitals


What else is new though.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4607
On August 25 2013 01:32 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:31 BigAsia wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:30 Faruko wrote:
Guys actually like this kind of game ? this remind why SC its not the king of eSports anymore boring


^ This... not impressed lol


really? This tournament has been full of great games and you nitpick this to bitch about?

I do agree with you, but more than 50% of games (of all SC2) go to deathball vs deathball like this one, and thats boring
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4608
On August 25 2013 01:33 Arco wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Are terran players still complaining about TvP lategame?

You've gotta be joking. That game was over for 20 minutes because Rain had terribly low economy. At one point he was on one base while Taeja was on 3 with tons of Orbitals behind.

Rain played horrible and lost that game due to his stubbornness to actually expand. The sad part is that Taeja had to wait so long to kill Rain because of how ridiculously strong Protoss 200/200 army is in PvT.

If anything, that game displayed how ridiculous Protoss is that it can live for 20 minutes on 1-2 bases against a massive Terran economy.

I play Protoss, so no bias here.


you mean the part where they didnt attack each other for those 20 minutes. and when they did, the toss army got rekt?
starleague forever
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4609
On August 25 2013 01:33 quainter wrote:
this German zombie crowds...will they ever cheer?

They probably have been there for 8 hours without rising, eating or doing other things ... and this game was pretty sleep inducing to be honest.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4610
On August 25 2013 01:33 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:32 Baroninthetree wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:30 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:29 bo1b wrote:
This game will be voted as one of the greatest of all time. And just like mvp vs top it really shouldn't be


It wasn't the greatest of all time.

But that was, although boring, the showcase of very solid play from both sides. And that counts too. Seeing very good starcraft compensate for the fact that it was a bit boring.

this is boring to those not playing the game.
But it is so intense to watch for a high tank scii player. The dancing is beautiful.

It was intense and exciting until rain got a 4th, and then it was a dance of killing observers. Really stopped being exciting at that point.


Still dont understand why rain didnt expand to the top while taeja commited so hard to denying him the 4th at the bottom
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
August 24 2013 16:34 GMT
#4611
On August 25 2013 01:32 StarStruck wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:30 Bagration wrote:
Kespa is failing so hard this tournament. Not used to international travel, eh?


They've flopped many times before man. Not just here. Remember MLG?

Travel is no excuse since all Koreans does.
But they are much weaker without their coach and trainer.jaedong and flash are the exceptions.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4612
seems everyone is focusing on what the two armies did for the last 10 minutes instead of everything taeja did to be in a position to keep rain's bank low.

In most games a protoss would just rebuild after that huge engagement. This time only Taeja was able to get his population to bounce back.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4613
Oh Taeja
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4614
On August 25 2013 01:31 BigAsia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:30 Faruko wrote:
Guys actually like this kind of game ? this remind why SC its not the king of eSports anymore boring


^ This... not impressed lol

this was a careful dance of two highly skilled players for every edge they could get knowing that one misstep could mean death for them. granted Taeja was advantageous from the beginning but we have seen today that 1-2 storms can eat 40 supply so there was a real chance of comeback.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4615
On August 25 2013 01:33 sc2holar wrote:
Mass Orbital commands = legit cheating


Wasn't it Boxer who did this first in excess at GSL season 2 or something?

Also I've been joking that WCS season 3 will be in Canada and I just learned it's true!!
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4616
Everytime ToD says 'forget' I hear 'fourgate' and go wtf
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4617
On August 25 2013 01:34 Metak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:33 Bam Lee wrote:
So basically protoss has to win before terran gets mass orbitals


What else is new though.

lol
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10121 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4618
On August 25 2013 01:34 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:32 Zarahtra wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:30 Zambrah wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:29 KingAlphard wrote:
Are terran players still complaining about TvP lategame?


They'll be back when another Protoss win happens, don't worry.

Did you guys watch the same game I did? Taeja was far far far far far far far far ahead all game long, but couldn't close it. Don't get me wrong, Rain did play superbly surviving for so long, but that game I'd argue T should rather be complaining about than P defending current TvP balance.


Im not seeing a reason to complain when all that I see is Terrans beating Protoss and Protoss beating Terran.

"couldn't close it" is probably also not necessarily accurate. Its more like TaeJa being okay with patiently waiting for the safest point to crush Rain at.

No, because if you misstep trying to close it you can end like Alive.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4619
On August 25 2013 01:32 TheDwf wrote:
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On August 25 2013 01:30 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:28 rshawer wrote:
UltLate game is always protoss favored


So what counters Mass Viking/Cloaked Ghost?

Anything that can move and detect is countered by Vikings and scans. Cloak handles the rest.

Tempests, Observers following your Colossi. It also helps not to enter lategame massively behind; if people think 10 macro OCs 180 army size is the norm for each lategame TvP, they're fairly deluded.


Tempests are terrible against Vikings.
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
August 24 2013 16:35 GMT
#4620
On August 25 2013 01:34 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:33 quainter wrote:
this German zombie crowds...will they ever cheer?

They probably have been there for 8 hours without rising, eating or doing other things ... and this game was pretty sleep inducing to be honest.


he posted the same exact thing about 39 times already yesterday and today -_-
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
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