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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 23 2013 22:02 GMT
#7141
wasn't able to watch anything today. some of these results make me really happy (Alive!!!! proving the haters wrong, BOMBER!!!! <3, Taeja!!!! <3, and for some reason also Innovation bombing out) and some make me really sad (Grubby nooooooooooooooooooooooo =/ although i guess it was predictable considering the group he was in). should be a sick day tomorrow, the only one i'll actually be able to watch. fucking real life man
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
August 23 2013 22:02 GMT
#7142
On August 24 2013 06:58 Snusmumriken wrote:
so, apart from Innovation Taeja TvT, which were the best games of the day?

MC Jaedong game 2
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 23 2013 22:04 GMT
#7143
Innovation is such a conundrum.

So true statements are:
1. Unbeatable TvZ.
2. Dies to cheese
3. Best multitasker on planet

With heavy possibilities in:
2. Best macro player on the planet
3. One of best TvT players(straight-up)

I think we can also assume he has weak TvP. Seems like he didn't really understand how to play it. It's just his macro is so sick it usually hides that fact.

Mosoball
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland686 Posts
August 23 2013 22:05 GMT
#7144
God... Innovation got A-cursed so hard out of the tournamet :D
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 23 2013 22:05 GMT
#7145
just realized 3 of the 4 group winners are eg-tl

taking over the world
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 23 2013 22:05 GMT
#7146
On August 24 2013 07:02 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 06:58 Snusmumriken wrote:
so, apart from Innovation Taeja TvT, which were the best games of the day?

MC Jaedong game 2

Game 1 was good too but game 2 is clearly a must see.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 22:07:45
August 23 2013 22:07 GMT
#7147
On August 24 2013 07:05 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 07:02 Die4Ever wrote:
On August 24 2013 06:58 Snusmumriken wrote:
so, apart from Innovation Taeja TvT, which were the best games of the day?

MC Jaedong game 2

Game 1 was good too but game 2 is clearly a must see.


Yeah I watched that one. Was a great game

I missed all of polts and alives as well as marus games (except a little of the scarlett alive game). Anything worthwhile there?
Amove for Aiur
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
August 23 2013 22:07 GMT
#7148
So happy Taeja made it through already, I think a Taeja/JD finals would be the best show
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
August 23 2013 22:08 GMT
#7149
On August 24 2013 06:53 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 06:38 jeri wrote:
On August 24 2013 06:36 1Dhalism wrote:
USA USA USA


scausarlet? :D cause comeon.... polt is not usa, he is just so handsome, so you just have to cheer for him as a american

Polt? Of course not. He's not winning(yet). I meant Jaedong Taeja and Alive.


yeah well ok but back to polt. he looked very very weak against first, thats the thing and i know why. Polt havent played any korean protoss in the wcs am, besides alicia and first is imho one of the top 3 protoss ww atm (sos+rain/parting).
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
August 23 2013 22:09 GMT
#7150
On August 24 2013 06:40 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 06:25 jeri wrote:
ooooh gawd, after those jaedong games and his emotinoal cheerings after each win, mostly vs mc... this MUST be his tourney, it just must.... i literaly will sacrifice a sheep or goat tomorrow to make this happen!


don't give me weird ideas, there are goats in my garden (at my parents' place)


:D
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25302 Posts
August 23 2013 22:12 GMT
#7151
On August 24 2013 07:04 Pandain wrote:
Innovation is such a conundrum.

So true statements are:
1. Unbeatable TvZ.
2. Dies to cheese
3. Best multitasker on planet

With heavy possibilities in:
2. Best macro player on the planet
3. One of best TvT players(straight-up)

I think we can also assume he has weak TvP. Seems like he didn't really understand how to play it. It's just his macro is so sick it usually hides that fact.


Innovation's 'Weak' vProtoss
Come on like!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
August 23 2013 22:13 GMT
#7152
On August 24 2013 06:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
Alive getting so much hate. Doesn't surprise me to see the bitter, unknowledgable and biased fucktards crawling out of the woodwork, but that doesn't prevent it disappointing me.


Hi pot have you met kettle?
Red and yellow are all I see
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
August 23 2013 22:13 GMT
#7153
On August 24 2013 07:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 07:04 Pandain wrote:
Innovation is such a conundrum.

So true statements are:
1. Unbeatable TvZ.
2. Dies to cheese
3. Best multitasker on planet

With heavy possibilities in:
2. Best macro player on the planet
3. One of best TvT players(straight-up)

I think we can also assume he has weak TvP. Seems like he didn't really understand how to play it. It's just his macro is so sick it usually hides that fact.


Innovation's 'Weak' vProtoss
Come on like!

To be fair, he often gets into positions where he can just a-move the protoss.
fishball232
Profile Joined May 2010
United States90 Posts
August 23 2013 22:14 GMT
#7154
hopefully artosis can curse jaedongs opponents. DONG hwaiting its about itme
"You really have to detach yourself and accept that you suck at StarCraft. Like I suck at StarCraft and it's all I've done for 15 years"-Artosis 2013
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
August 23 2013 22:15 GMT
#7155
On August 24 2013 07:04 Pandain wrote:
Innovation is such a conundrum.

So true statements are:
1. Unbeatable TvZ.
2. Dies to cheese
3. Best multitasker on planet

With heavy possibilities in:
2. Best macro player on the planet
3. One of best TvT players(straight-up)

I think we can also assume he has weak TvP. Seems like he didn't really understand how to play it. It's just his macro is so sick it usually hides that fact.


I don't think his TvP is weak. I only watched the second game vs Naniwa on Newkirk, but it was more like a lack of gameplan than anything. His drops through the bottom route while posturing at the third kept failing due to Naniwa's observers, yet he didn't really try anything else. Overall there's no big flaw in his play, and we all know of his mechanics, but he just seemed at a loss of what to do. Maybe he's the type who needs a coach to plan out his games in advance so he can concentrate on the execution?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 22:16:42
August 23 2013 22:15 GMT
#7156
On August 24 2013 07:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 07:04 Pandain wrote:
Innovation is such a conundrum.

So true statements are:
1. Unbeatable TvZ.
2. Dies to cheese
3. Best multitasker on planet

With heavy possibilities in:
2. Best macro player on the planet
3. One of best TvT players(straight-up)

I think we can also assume he has weak TvP. Seems like he didn't really understand how to play it. It's just his macro is so sick it usually hides that fact.


Innovation's 'Weak' vProtoss
Come on like!


Your right. He's not weak, just weakest imo.

I was just really shocked how convincing a win it was by Naniwa and the mistakes by Innovation.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 23 2013 22:15 GMT
#7157
On August 24 2013 07:13 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 07:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 24 2013 07:04 Pandain wrote:
Innovation is such a conundrum.

So true statements are:
1. Unbeatable TvZ.
2. Dies to cheese
3. Best multitasker on planet

With heavy possibilities in:
2. Best macro player on the planet
3. One of best TvT players(straight-up)

I think we can also assume he has weak TvP. Seems like he didn't really understand how to play it. It's just his macro is so sick it usually hides that fact.


Innovation's 'Weak' vProtoss
Come on like!

To be fair, he often gets into positions where he can just a-move the protoss.


what a way to describe someone's play... "he just gets into situations where he wins"
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
August 23 2013 22:18 GMT
#7158
Naniwa beat Innovation? what the fuck? WTG SIR
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
August 23 2013 22:20 GMT
#7159
On August 24 2013 06:28 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 06:14 Holdenintherye wrote:
Wow aLive doing so well!


I know, right? I watched his games against Scarlett and Jim in the final rounds of WCS America. He looked completely helpless. Polt dominated in the same matchups, although against different opponents. Perhaps he had bad strategies/builds those days?


i think most terrans are afread keep pushing zergs in the middle game, but thats right... there is the key to crush the zerg, cause there is the main issue of the hots zergs atm, just keep pushing. cause in the last months that was the key. just watch last games from bogus vs soulkey and the final polt vs jd. just dont let the zerg easy transfer to t3 ultras or broods with a good bank. polt and bogus found the right way. imho flash was the first who proper showed that kind of middle game. he just crushed every zerg with this mmmm pressuring style with just rallying massmarines and dropping all over the place and not letting the zerg transfering to t3. i think the usual 10-12 banlings trade for scvs does more damage to the zerg... again last high zvt games bogus vs soulkey wcs/prolegue polt vs jd wcs am finals.

ps: sry for wall of text, to much beer and still pumped from those mc vs jaedong games
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25302 Posts
August 23 2013 22:22 GMT
#7160
He's 7-3 against Rain, who is no slouch in any matchup really, but especially good at vT. One series does not a weak matchup make.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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