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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4841
On August 24 2013 03:11 DidYuhim wrote:
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On August 24 2013 03:08 stuchiu wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:07 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:03 DidYuhim wrote:
And so, both Bogus and Soulkey are in a huge slump.


How so?

Soulkey mostly loses to Bogus himself

Bogus has never been as bulletproof in TvT though still above average.

SK is recently losing games he's supposed to win. Like the game against SuNo.

Bogus' TvT used to be "not up to par", but now it's just horrible to watch. I don't know what STX coaches are thinking. He even got 2-0'd by Parting recently.


No Supernova was supposed to win that. His TvZ is extremely good right now and it's unique. You can't beat that the first go around.

He had plenty of games to study. Also, those games were not "unique" or "extremely good". SK just derped randomly.


He made the 3 cc 1 fact build into 1 tank and blue flame hellion with an option to swtich into 2 choices: Mech or Bio. On top of that, that was his first TvZ post Hellbat nerf. Also if Zerg doesn't scout right, he can also do a Hellbat bio all-in.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4842
On August 24 2013 03:09 bo1b wrote:
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On August 24 2013 03:05 seoul_kiM wrote:
I think that game was better than MMA vs. DRG....jesus

Lots have games have been. A ton have been this year as well.


I still don't think anything beats Gumiho vs Losira xD

yeah it wasn't the absolute top-tier of ZvT but still at a high enough level and more than made up for it in entertainment. It was like MasterAsia vs TT1 at a code S level.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4843
On August 24 2013 03:11 Zealously wrote:
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On August 24 2013 03:10 Pandain wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:09 bo1b wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:05 seoul_kiM wrote:
I think that game was better than MMA vs. DRG....jesus

Lots have games have been. A ton have been this year as well.

In story and emotion, mma drg is still the best game of all time


2nd or 3rd, maybe. Squirtle Mvp g7 is still beyond insane when it comes to story/emotion

Gumiho vs MMA comes to mind as well.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4844
On August 24 2013 03:12 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
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On August 24 2013 03:10 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Haven't watched SC2 in a while, but damn this one man translator/interviewer combo is sooooo much better than the two man setup.

Also because he is just a much better translator


he's also a better interviewer

he's also fluent in English and Korean
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4845
On August 24 2013 03:13 IntoTheheart wrote:
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On August 24 2013 03:12 pigmanbear wrote:
... isn't group D supposed to be playing now?

I don't think that they predicted the games to go on for this long.


they also aren't getting much mileage out of the B stream.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4846
Holy fuck that was one good game... I really feel Bogus goofed though, should have made vikings at any point in time and stopped this constant dropping and running around his army!
nohole
Profile Joined June 2012
United States56 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4847
This is Taeja without wrist problems. Go Taeja!
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4848
On August 24 2013 03:12 pigmanbear wrote:
... isn't group D supposed to be playing now?

It is, but Group A Winner match and TaeJa vs. INnoVation took longer than expected.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 18:14:23
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4849
On August 24 2013 03:09 PerSe wrote:
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On August 24 2013 03:05 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Holy balls.

I'll jump on the bandwagon of doubting full mech. The Thor is just too bad and the Marauder is just too good. Weak anti-air and Marauders break siege lines. Would more Widow Mines have been better?


Blizz is just stubborn. Instead of re-introducing the goliath which would solve a lot of the anti-air problems that mech has, they are looking at just merging the tech upgrades instead.

There is far from enough evidence to suggest that mech is inferior. Maybe harder to execute, maybe it needs refinement, but not inferior. Introducing a whole new unit would be way overkill, especially as we already have a mega goliath (thor) and blizzard tend to want each unit to be fairly unique. Vikings, thors, ravens, turrets and mines are all pretty good anti-air for different variations of mech and for battling different styles.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4850
On August 24 2013 03:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 03:10 Pandain wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:09 bo1b wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:05 seoul_kiM wrote:
I think that game was better than MMA vs. DRG....jesus

Lots have games have been. A ton have been this year as well.

In story and emotion, mma drg is still the best game of all time


2nd or 3rd, maybe. Squirtle Mvp g7 is still beyond insane when it comes to story/emotion


Someone read Fionn's article.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4851
On August 24 2013 03:10 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 03:09 bo1b wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:05 seoul_kiM wrote:
I think that game was better than MMA vs. DRG....jesus

Lots have games have been. A ton have been this year as well.

In story and emotion, mma drg is still the best game of all time

I actually think Mkp vs Partings rematch has the most emotion and storyline of any game played.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4852
On August 24 2013 03:12 Conut wrote:
why is everyone saying that was mech being bad, i would argue that innovation didn't play that out to well. I feel innovation was carried by his insane multitasking and insane mechanics HOWEVER, he never took air control, he was always looking to defend his tanks with just turrets, if he had established air control that game would have been 100 times harder for Teaja


Hard to take air control when you have to juggle supply between vikings/ground units to stop the enormous amount of pure bio coming at you. Splash can only do so much.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4853
On August 24 2013 03:11 c0ldfusion wrote:
Man, at this rate Bogus is gonna lose his #1 spot in the TL power ranking in the coming month.

Cmon Bogus!

that's impossible!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4854
On August 24 2013 03:12 bo1b wrote:
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On August 24 2013 03:10 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:02 govie wrote:
ESF > Kespa.

Teaja proved it once more^^


Taeja hasn't been an eSF player for 1.5 yeas already.

You're completely right. Foreign teams > Kespa


That's a given, who will argue that. Look at the WCS points ranking right now.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4855
On August 24 2013 03:11 leo23 wrote:
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On August 24 2013 03:11 MyFirstProbe wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:10 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Haven't watched SC2 in a while, but damn this one man translator/interviewer combo is sooooo much better than the two man setup.

Yeah, but Chobra is kind of the only one who is capable of doing a good interview and understanding korean...


smix?

RIP Smix, but Chobra is a very worthy successor
Liquid | SKT
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4856
TAEJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#4857
On August 24 2013 03:13 Heinsenzerg wrote:
it has been said already, but man what a lackluster crowd, whitnessing that live and not being clapping on your feet is insane

The tournament is in germany
...
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 23 2013 18:14 GMT
#4858
On August 24 2013 03:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 03:10 Pandain wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:09 bo1b wrote:
On August 24 2013 03:05 seoul_kiM wrote:
I think that game was better than MMA vs. DRG....jesus

Lots have games have been. A ton have been this year as well.

In story and emotion, mma drg is still the best game of all time


2nd or 3rd, maybe. Squirtle Mvp g7 is still beyond insane when it comes to story/emotion


I'd say MMA GuMibear. Because you knew the second MMA went down Gumiho would all kill again.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 23 2013 18:14 GMT
#4859
On August 24 2013 03:10 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Haven't watched SC2 in a while, but damn this one man translator/interviewer combo is sooooo much better than the two man setup.


We kinda stole him from LoL


Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
August 23 2013 18:14 GMT
#4860
Pretty late to the cheering party, i know
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
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