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[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 108

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Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#2141
On August 12 2013 00:54 Waxangel wrote:
Duckdeok is outdoing Sniper, holy fuck

MVP, destroying fun since 2010.
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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#2142
just checked the results, Grubby Did he play good atleast?

dont think i'll watch the entire finals, dont really care about MC/duckdeok + its PvP, even though PvP is kind of interesting now its still far from my favorite MU..
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33451 Posts
August 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#2143
goddamn MC is crushed
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
August 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#2144
On August 12 2013 01:07 KaneZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:05 jonich0n wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:03 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:55 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:49 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:27 Kergy wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:24 MrSourGit wrote:
I am not going to watch 2 Koreans fight for my regions championship .... boring.

What a load of shit.

Should have to stick to your region ...... so so stupid. The largest spectator crowds are NA and EU right ? We wanna see our players ..... uhhhhh.

Ladder time.


well, tell them to l2p

finale has a new fan :D


Koreans are better , we all fkin know that , but for once i wanna see a competition won by OUR fking players .... on OUR fucking region ....

Oh fuck it , Next European football in 2016 , Why dont we just invite Brazil and Argentina ? Who gives a shit they aint from Europe !!!


You think it's fair that Korea has maybe 80-90% of the best players in the world, but they only have ONE WCS tournament with the same prize pool as the other regions? How about that?



Boo hoo ?

Are they from Europe ? Do they live in Europe ?

Are they from America ? Do they live in America ?

Is it that hard to comprehend ?


Are your players good? No? Then maybe they shouldn't win.

Is it that hard to comprehend?

See how easy it is to not give a shit about what the other guy is saying?


So your argument for African international teams competing to enter the World cup finals would be ....... 'Fuck it , the African teams are not good enough against mid tier Eu teams , they don't deserve to be in the world cup' ......

Plank +1

dude. THIS TOURNAMENT IS NOT THE WORLD CUP


Why they call it WCS EUROPE, WCS AMERICA and WCS KOREA then?


Because thats where it's HELD...
They are different portals for the main events, Season Finals and ultimately Blizzcon Finals.
The curse is real
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#2145
gg, great push by DD
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
August 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#2146
On August 12 2013 01:01 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:55 Bowzar wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:51 Sufinsil wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:51 Bowzar wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:45 BigFan wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:42 Bowzar wrote:
Im more sad about how fucking bad foreigners are. Its pathetic.

cmon foreigners did pretty great this tourney. Heck, mvp was knocked out by foreigners!

Three low/mid-tier Koreans managed to do massive damage. No, they fucking suck and something needs to change.


Like foreigners stop losing to low/mid-tier Koreans?

People always talk about the lack of infrastructure in the foreign scene but its there, its not just being used properly. Get rid of the dead weight and invest in new talent that is willing to work hard and fill up the fucking team houses for fucks sake.

so either you think foreigners are less hardworking than koreans (racist)
or you think that completely random chance and variance has resulted in fewer hardworking foreigners in the entire world than koreans (insane and statistically impossible)

Pls read again pls. I think that foreign teams are just straight up bad at developing/spotting talent. Its not a secret why Koreans are so good at Starcraft. They get a bunch of young, talented players who are willing to work hard and put them in an enviroment where they can help eachother get better.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
August 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#2147
FINNNAAALLEEEE <3 <3
The curse is real
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12281 Posts
August 11 2013 16:08 GMT
#2148
On August 12 2013 01:07 KaneZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:05 jonich0n wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:03 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:55 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:49 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:27 Kergy wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:24 MrSourGit wrote:
I am not going to watch 2 Koreans fight for my regions championship .... boring.

What a load of shit.

Should have to stick to your region ...... so so stupid. The largest spectator crowds are NA and EU right ? We wanna see our players ..... uhhhhh.

Ladder time.


well, tell them to l2p

finale has a new fan :D


Koreans are better , we all fkin know that , but for once i wanna see a competition won by OUR fking players .... on OUR fucking region ....

Oh fuck it , Next European football in 2016 , Why dont we just invite Brazil and Argentina ? Who gives a shit they aint from Europe !!!


You think it's fair that Korea has maybe 80-90% of the best players in the world, but they only have ONE WCS tournament with the same prize pool as the other regions? How about that?



Boo hoo ?

Are they from Europe ? Do they live in Europe ?

Are they from America ? Do they live in America ?

Is it that hard to comprehend ?


Are your players good? No? Then maybe they shouldn't win.

Is it that hard to comprehend?

See how easy it is to not give a shit about what the other guy is saying?


So your argument for African international teams competing to enter the World cup finals would be ....... 'Fuck it , the African teams are not good enough against mid tier Eu teams , they don't deserve to be in the world cup' ......

Plank +1

dude. THIS TOURNAMENT IS NOT THE WORLD CUP


Why they call it WCS EUROPE, WCS AMERICA and WCS KOREA then?


Because they happen in Europe, America and Korea?

Ever heard of the tennis US OPEN?
No will to live, no wish to die
Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2149
On August 12 2013 01:06 Waxangel wrote:
if you aren't rooting for finale, you should turn in your hipster card


Hipster card evaporated after Maru won.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2150
On August 12 2013 01:06 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:05 Wildmoon wrote:
On August 12 2013 01:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I see alot tweets saying that WCS have 50k/60/65 viewers (currently 56k)...

Do you remember WCS Europe Finals 2012? We had 126k viewers....


much better final.

Lucifron vs. Stephano attracted much more attention.

The finals were Vortix vs Stephano tho, that was the winners bracket if i remember right.
KaneZ
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany202 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2151
On August 12 2013 01:06 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:03 KaneZ wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:59 vthree wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:54 KaneZ wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:49 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:27 Kergy wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:24 MrSourGit wrote:
I am not going to watch 2 Koreans fight for my regions championship .... boring.

What a load of shit.

Should have to stick to your region ...... so so stupid. The largest spectator crowds are NA and EU right ? We wanna see our players ..... uhhhhh.

Ladder time.


well, tell them to l2p

finale has a new fan :D


Koreans are better , we all fkin know that , but for once i wanna see a competition won by OUR fking players .... on OUR fucking region ....

Oh fuck it , Next European football in 2016 , Why dont we just invite Brazil and Argentina ? Who gives a shit they aint from Europe !!!


You have to put it somewhat different: Qualification for FIFA World Cup (~WCS Season Final) is divided into regional qualifiers. If it would be in football as it is in WCS, European teams would spread into NA, Asia and Africa qualifier and there would only be European nationalteams at Fifa World Cup. Everyone would state that would be totaly stupid, but somehow many of the community accept it for WCS?!?


Lol, if World Cup has the same amount of spots for Asian teams and European teams, you know how much rage that would cause?


Yes I do. And I think its right to have more European Slots, since Europe has most of the best teams. Same could be done in WCS. Just make global finals have 32 slots, 16 for WCS Korea, 8 each for WCS NA and WCS Europe. Lock the regions. Problem solved.


8 for NA and EU? That is way to generous. EU gets 4 and NA gets 2 China/sea get 2


I don't really care about the exact numbers, but I think you got my point.
† Stephano †
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2152
aww come on boss
(>'.')>
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2153
On August 12 2013 01:01 MrSourGit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:58 Noc- wrote:
So much hate in this thread for duckdeok lol! Keep it up guys, Im enjoying this.

Yeah such a shocker duckdeok aka finale aka Code S protoss beats Grubby and Naniwa and gets to the finals. Like some mad hater said yesterday, "a no name Korean". Right.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok

Well Apollo telling it too in the stream.

Im so happy finale beat these foreigners, just because of these butthurt fanboys. :D


'butthurt fanboys' ........

maybe people just want to see thier region competed for by THEIR fucking players ? jump on that korean bandwagon brah , quick quick.


Give them tears!

Honestly I have no problem with some of the koreans playing here. But hey, it was just a no name korean anyways right!? Maybe these foreigners dont even deserve to be in the Global Finals if they cant take out such no name koreans? Wouldn't they be murdered in the Global Finals!

Woops, I forgot Grubby, Naniwa and Welmu got through.

SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2154
On August 12 2013 01:01 MrSourGit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:58 Noc- wrote:
So much hate in this thread for duckdeok lol! Keep it up guys, Im enjoying this.

Yeah such a shocker duckdeok aka finale aka Code S protoss beats Grubby and Naniwa and gets to the finals. Like some mad hater said yesterday, "a no name Korean". Right.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok

Well Apollo telling it too in the stream.

Im so happy finale beat these foreigners, just because of these butthurt fanboys. :D


'butthurt fanboys' ........

maybe people just want to see thier region competed for by THEIR fucking players ? jump on that korean bandwagon brah , quick quick.


There was only 7 Koreans in the ro32 and by the ro8 only 3 remained. I wouldn't say the region was overrun with Koreans, it isn't their fault that they are consistently performing better.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
zainsaGOD
Profile Joined August 2013
105 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2155
come on boss toss
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2156
Oooo the immortal drop harass.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3750 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2157
This wcs eu final is rather disappointing on paper...
MrSourGit
Profile Joined August 2012
England135 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2158
On August 12 2013 01:05 jonich0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 01:03 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:55 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:49 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:27 Kergy wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:24 MrSourGit wrote:
I am not going to watch 2 Koreans fight for my regions championship .... boring.

What a load of shit.

Should have to stick to your region ...... so so stupid. The largest spectator crowds are NA and EU right ? We wanna see our players ..... uhhhhh.

Ladder time.


well, tell them to l2p

finale has a new fan :D


Koreans are better , we all fkin know that , but for once i wanna see a competition won by OUR fking players .... on OUR fucking region ....

Oh fuck it , Next European football in 2016 , Why dont we just invite Brazil and Argentina ? Who gives a shit they aint from Europe !!!


You think it's fair that Korea has maybe 80-90% of the best players in the world, but they only have ONE WCS tournament with the same prize pool as the other regions? How about that?



Boo hoo ?

Are they from Europe ? Do they live in Europe ?

Are they from America ? Do they live in America ?

Is it that hard to comprehend ?


Are your players good? No? Then maybe they shouldn't win.

Is it that hard to comprehend?

See how easy it is to not give a shit about what the other guy is saying?


So your argument for African international teams competing to enter the World cup finals would be ....... 'Fuck it , the African teams are not good enough against mid tier Eu teams , they don't deserve to be in the world cup' ......

Plank +1

dude. THIS TOURNAMENT IS NOT THE WORLD CUP



Its the same concept ..... or it should fking be


I give up , people need to stop sucking up to the koreans ......

Fuck it , sooner or later , we will have only Koreans competing in sc2 , Euro and americans will only play casual ..... Gonna be real fun then !

Enjoy .
Winston Churchill - ''I may be drunk, Miss , but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly'
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 11 2013 16:09 GMT
#2159
I like MC a lot, he's a funny person. But given everyone likes to hate Finale I'm sort of cheering for Finale.

And it's looking good for him! But tbh I don't really care who wins. May the better guy win.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 11 2013 16:10 GMT
#2160
On August 12 2013 01:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I see alot tweets saying that WCS have 50k/60/65 viewers (currently 56k)...

Do you remember WCS Europe Finals 2012? We had 126k viewers....


Do you remember WCS Europe Finals 2013? We had 134k viewers....
Season one, that is.
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