• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:41
CEST 10:41
KST 17:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun1[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors15[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers24Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1657 users

[WCS EU] Finals Day 1 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 85

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 83 84 85 86 87 118 Next
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 10 2013 16:30 GMT
#1681
On August 11 2013 01:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:28 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
fuck..., Koreans dominating WCS EU.

I was also rather surprised because of how few there were comparatively.

korea let us think they cant win it.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
August 10 2013 16:31 GMT
#1682
On August 11 2013 01:26 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:25 Gentso wrote:
Man Grubby looks extremely uncomfortable/nervous. I don't know how his meditating or whatever works for him but to me he doesn't look like he's in the right mindset for competition. o_O

That's what he always does, he tries to keep his cool. He's been a competitor for so many years, I think he knows what works .


I dunno I've been following Grubby for a while but I haven't seen him like this before. It took him a while to choose those maps and just seems more emotional to everything right now.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
August 10 2013 16:31 GMT
#1683
On August 11 2013 01:30 Shikada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:29 Fyzar wrote:
I've been wondering lately: I love Kaelaris' casting, but I can not for the life of me recall at what level plays the game and what race xd. Enlighten me, folks!


I forgot the race, but I remember he is very, very bad :D

He played terran i think.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 10 2013 16:31 GMT
#1684
On August 11 2013 01:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:29 Fyzar wrote:
I've been wondering lately: I love Kaelaris' casting, but I can not for the life of me recall at what level plays the game and what race xd. Enlighten me, folks!

Random according to Liquipedia, and as for skill level, I'm not sure but assuming at least Masters?

He's a masters protoss
Glorious SEA doto
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 10 2013 16:31 GMT
#1685
On August 11 2013 01:29 Fyzar wrote:
I've been wondering lately: I love Kaelaris' casting, but I can not for the life of me recall at what level plays the game and what race xd. Enlighten me, folks!

Liquipedia lists him as random, but Terran comes to mind for some reason. I don't know about his rank but I assume it's decent based upon how big of a gamer he is, I'm assuming he's played enough to be diamond/masters, but I have nothing to support this.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1686
On August 11 2013 01:31 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:29 Fyzar wrote:
I've been wondering lately: I love Kaelaris' casting, but I can not for the life of me recall at what level plays the game and what race xd. Enlighten me, folks!

Random according to Liquipedia, and as for skill level, I'm not sure but assuming at least Masters?

He's a masters protoss


He's random, he only has one account per race #Esportsmoney
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45738 Posts
August 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1687
On August 11 2013 01:28 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:27 Nerchio wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Which "P" word describes Grubby?

Pimbalanced


Pig Benis!


Pwned.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hopefully.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1688
On August 11 2013 01:29 DidYuhim wrote:
Oh well, Protoss players have quite a history of breaking my heart in SC2.

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want Grubby to follow the trend


cursed as well!
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1689
On August 11 2013 01:30 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:29 DidYuhim wrote:
Oh well, Protoss players have quite a history of breaking my heart in SC2.

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want Grubby to follow the trend

You are having such a great day today, aren't you ? haha

Awesome day when I hope Protoss to win:

Genius, Squirtle, Parting, Rain. Every name strikes another needle in my soul.
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1690
good start from Grubby.
(>'.')>
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1691
On August 11 2013 01:32 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:31 Fusilero wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:29 Fyzar wrote:
I've been wondering lately: I love Kaelaris' casting, but I can not for the life of me recall at what level plays the game and what race xd. Enlighten me, folks!

Random according to Liquipedia, and as for skill level, I'm not sure but assuming at least Masters?

He's a masters protoss


He's random, he only has one account per race #Esportsmoney

Mouz putting them sponsor moonies to use.
Glorious SEA doto
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
August 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1692
On August 11 2013 00:57 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:54 Waxangel wrote:
is anyone really surprised that a fringe Code S player is a top championship candidate in a foreign tourney? have you watched any of them ever?


But... but... someone said he was a no-name!

Someone not following the Korean scene said he was a no name! Trust the man, he must be an authority on the matter


Yeah I mean we were watching WCS Korea right? It wasn't like this was the European scene or WCS Europe!
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#1693
54k viewers but I think NA later on will get hit hard.
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
August 10 2013 16:33 GMT
#1694
On August 11 2013 01:31 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:29 Fyzar wrote:
I've been wondering lately: I love Kaelaris' casting, but I can not for the life of me recall at what level plays the game and what race xd. Enlighten me, folks!

Random according to Liquipedia, and as for skill level, I'm not sure but assuming at least Masters?

He's a masters protoss


HOTS masters, I think he was in diamond in WOL. When he started commentating his game knowledge was so bad only Apollo could help him out :D

He has gotten better, of course.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 10 2013 16:33 GMT
#1695
On August 11 2013 01:28 The_Templar wrote:
Quarterfinals
(Z)VortiX vs (P)Grubby

1-0

Map: Newkirk Precinct

Grubby spawns in the bottom right
Vortix spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Grubby opening with a gateway.
Vortix opening with a spawning pool.

2:00
Double gas for Grubby.

3:00
Vortix expanding.
Grubby getting warp gate.

4:00
Grubby takes his natural expansion.

5:00
Stargate for Grubby.
Zergling speed from Vortix but no third base yet.
Grubby building 2 more gateways in his natural expansion.

6:00 (Z)VortiX 48 vs (P)Grubby 37
Vortix has 2 drones hanging out in his third base.
One of them leaves and the other builds a third base.
Vortix getting a roach warren and has a few zerglings moving towards Grubby's base.

7:00 (Z)VortiX 54 vs (P)Grubby 52
Vortix building 4 spore crawlers.
Grubby getting a robotics facility.

8:00 (Z)VortiX 60 vs (P)Grubby 56
Grubby kills the queen in the main base of Vortix.
Grubby making a forge.
Grubby building immortals and a robotics bay.

9:00 (Z)VortiX 68 vs (P)Grubby 67
Vortix getting roach speed.
Grubby getting +1 ground attacks.
Vortix making a hydralisk den.
Grubby killing roaches with phoenixes.
Grubby getting 3 more gateways.

10:00 (Z)VortiX 96 vs (P)Grubby 87
Vortix getting hydralisks
Grubby hasn't lost a single unit yet.
Grubby getting extended thermal lance and colossi.

11:00 (Z)VortiX 109 vs (P)Grubby 105
Vortix getting hydralisk speed.
Vortix saturating his third base.
Vortix getting an infestation pit.
Grubby taking his third base which is scouted.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 10 2013 16:33 GMT
#1696
On August 11 2013 01:32 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:30 Godwrath wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:29 DidYuhim wrote:
Oh well, Protoss players have quite a history of breaking my heart in SC2.

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want Grubby to follow the trend

You are having such a great day today, aren't you ? haha

Awesome day when I hope Protoss to win:

Genius, Squirtle, Parting, Rain. Every name strikes another needle in my soul.

You forget the gods of InCa & HongUn and shit. Life is not complete without them around.
It appears I have been chosen.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 10 2013 16:33 GMT
#1697
On August 11 2013 01:33 Shikada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:31 Fusilero wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:29 Fyzar wrote:
I've been wondering lately: I love Kaelaris' casting, but I can not for the life of me recall at what level plays the game and what race xd. Enlighten me, folks!

Random according to Liquipedia, and as for skill level, I'm not sure but assuming at least Masters?

He's a masters protoss


HOTS masters, I think he was in diamond in WOL. When he started commentating his game knowledge was so bad only Apollo could help him out :D

He has gotten better, of course.

He was diamond at the very start of his casting but I believe he achieved masters during WoL I believe before he joined mouz.
Glorious SEA doto
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 10 2013 16:33 GMT
#1698
On August 11 2013 01:32 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:30 Godwrath wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:29 DidYuhim wrote:
Oh well, Protoss players have quite a history of breaking my heart in SC2.

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want Grubby to follow the trend

You are having such a great day today, aren't you ? haha

Awesome day when I hope Protoss to win:

Genius, Squirtle, Parting, Rain. Every name strikes another needle in my soul.


I don't understand why I feel no racial bias in Starcraft

(I've been mostly Z since vanilla)
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 10 2013 16:34 GMT
#1699
On August 11 2013 01:30 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:26 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:23 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:11 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:55 AgentW wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[quote]
If name is based off results like he said, wouldnt that make nearly every foreigner a no name?

I.... I guess so.

I think it exposes how ridiculous it is for people to say people are known by results alone. FFS, only one guy can win every tournament. It's not like there's one a week and it's common to be a champion.


Basically it's claiming that a "no-name" Korean = Hasn't won a GSL/ MLG/ DH, which is hilarious because those Koreans can still beat the best (let alone the average) foreigner.


Yeah that is probably the main reason for the decline of SC2 as e-sport.


I hear there's a tombstone already picked out for e-sports.


Well the other games seems to being doing okay. No of course SC2 is not going die completely but I honestly think that KESPAs movement into SC2 is in a long term perspective will cause a dramatic reduction in the amount of people watching SC2.

Korea was already heavily dominating before, now they started to dominate twice as hard and that was the last thing SC2 needed. Not only do we have a situation were 95 out of the 100 best players are from one country which of course is terrible thing on it own. However to make things even worse have 90% of these players almost no means for connecting to an audience outside of Korea.

Not only do they have a introverted/none public personalities but are also none exclusively monolingual, only communicating in a language that extremely few people outside of South Korea understand.

So yeah, it is just bad all around for SC2 as a whole.


You realize there's a whole lot of games other than SC2, DotA2 and LoL right?



Yeah, but I do however not realize how that information relates to my post


You say "Well the other games seems to being doing okay. " even though SC2 is almost consistently the #3 game on Twitch, sometimes even #2. How is it doing so poorly again?


It is not, but I think if they current trends continues with introverted monolingual Korean players winning a close to every tournament it will do before long.

Stephano retiring, NA scene being semi dead and Korea being twice as strong as ever in SC2. Does not look good to me, of course it will be large in Korea so it wont go away completely.


It's not even close to being large in Korea... that's a huge part of the problem. So you have a scene with a shitton of insane talent, that's very cut-throat, but there isn't quite that much local interest for it. Why do you think so many Koreans compete abroad or want to join foreign teams?

Think about it from that perspective as well.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 10 2013 16:34 GMT
#1700
On August 11 2013 01:30 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:28 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
fuck..., Koreans dominating WCS EU.

I was also rather surprised because of how few there were comparatively.

korea let us think they cant win it.

That's what it looks like.
kiss kiss fall in love
Prev 1 83 84 85 86 87 118 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 145
ProTech130
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 931
Zeus 251
910 221
Killer 144
Dewaltoss 103
Larva 89
actioN 81
ToSsGirL 70
sSak 37
PianO 35
[ Show more ]
Shinee 35
soO 28
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
JulyZerg 13
Terrorterran 6
ZergMaN 4
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm405
XaKoH 121
XcaliburYe30
League of Legends
JimRising 547
Counter-Strike
olofmeister921
shoxiejesuss915
edward183
Other Games
ceh9632
Happy241
Livibee52
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick552
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream164
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota225
League of Legends
• TFBlade825
• Stunt459
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
19m
Afreeca Starleague
1h 19m
Leta vs YSC
Kung Fu Cup
2h 19m
GSL
1d
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
1d 15h
GSL
2 days
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Escore
3 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
IPSL
5 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.