EPTAnd another note, fuckyeah MANZUBU.
[ASUS ROG] Day 3 Summer 2013 - Page 66
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
And another note, fuckyeah MANZUBU. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16097 Posts
On August 04 2013 03:16 KelsierSC wrote: Although superficially zvp has changed a lot, the core problems that plagued it in WoL still seem to exist. Protoss usuually tries a 2 base all in because the zerg lategame free spawning unit (BL/SH) is too powerful, we saw what happened when Hyun tried a different composition that didn't include SH, the protoss tech was too powerful and destroyed the lair army. I fully expect SH to completely dominate tournament PvZ in a few months once zerg get sick of trying an entertaining style. While I don't disagree, HoTS did get rid of Vortex and did give Protoss the Tempest which allows for a much more dynamic late game than what we had in WoL. So even if Swarm Host/Broodlord becomes dominant it still isn't as bad as WoL. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24591 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 04 2013 03:17 chipmonklord17 wrote: If robo becomes the new norm I could see ling/muta coming back. And the upgraded lings into ultra isn't horrible either It's not so good if the protoss never attacks into you and just turtles, the reason it was successful is because protoss didn't know what to do and would try and attack, get surrounded and die. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24591 Posts
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heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
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polpot
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Faster69
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
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Sogetsu
514 Posts
It's the same when I ran into storms claiming that it is almost impossible to win without perfect micro, because my horrible positioning on the engage or counter for it. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On August 04 2013 03:17 Vindicare605 wrote: While I don't disagree, HoTS did get rid of Vortex and did give Protoss the Tempest which allows for a much more dynamic late game than what we had in WoL. So even if Swarm Host/Broodlord becomes dominant it still isn't as bad as WoL. To be honest I kind of miss Vortex. A lot. I mean MVP vs Squirtle where Squritle vortexes the battle cruisers was so amazingly sick, and the actual vortex mechanic involved some amount of skill. I just wish there was a way to remove, or significantly nerf, archon toileting and keep vortex. Because that was the really imbalanced part of vortex | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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xyzz
567 Posts
So even if Swarm Host/Broodlord becomes dominant it still isn't as bad as WoL. Swarm Host is the exact copy of the WOL BL problem, because the Tempest does nothing vs it. It's slow and Protoss can try to get around them for a base race (just like Broodlords), but that's about it. Every other victory requires Zerg to be completely out of position and let the Protoss army blink inside and destroy them for free. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 04 2013 03:22 Lorning wrote: Did anyone tell San yet that this isn't a qualifier? After he's up 2-0 in the finals, I'll call him and mention it | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On August 04 2013 03:22 chipmonklord17 wrote: To be honest I kind of miss Vortex. A lot. I mean MVP vs Squirtle where Squritle vortexes the battle cruisers was so amazingly sick, and the actual vortex mechanic involved some amount of skill. I just wish there was a way to remove, or significantly nerf, archon toileting and keep vortex. Because that was the really imbalanced part of vortex The problem with vortex was that you'd end up in situations where you had to land a perfect one or you lost. When the entire matchup hinges on one spell being cast once, it's bad for the game. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On August 04 2013 03:13 Zealously wrote: San is like The Protoss Sniper/hyvaa/Shine/whoever else kills fan favorites Except San randomly activates and just kills everyone San is my most favorite player. I was so sad that mc won against san in gsl season 2 2011 | ||
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