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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 30 2013 17:22 GMT
#1941
On July 31 2013 02:00 painkilla wrote:
This series is so reminiscent of Mvp-MMA. Is Maru the new MMA ? xD

please dont say that
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 30 2013 17:24 GMT
#1942
Gosh, this is pretty horrible for bringing out a big audience, isn't it? I thought that Innovation was key to attracting a large crowd.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 30 2013 17:24 GMT
#1943
On July 31 2013 02:16 NapkinBox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 01:06 BronzeKnee wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:53 nimdil wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:47 blobrus wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:42 nimdil wrote:
On July 30 2013 22:12 bittman wrote:
On July 30 2013 22:10 nimdil wrote:
On July 30 2013 21:59 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 30 2013 21:57 redviper wrote:
Innovation is really the best player in the world. Lolololololoooool (can't type enough lolz on tur phone).

And still, I bet he will be number on power rank. Mary read him like a book, opened it up and then burned all the pages.

Who is then? Runner-up, winner, Ro4 in the hardest leagues in SC2

I guess no matter who will be #1, the author of the PR will be flamed hard.


Yep. There's no such thing as a power rank that everyone agrees on.

I mean last time probably nobody argued against Innovation being #1 considering he won Season 1 finals etc. But now there will be hot flame just because of #1 spot no matter what.


I mean I know people WILL argue but still, he basically carried his team to the Proleague finals, he's been consistently a top finisher in everything he enters, and he's the favorite in almost every match he plays.

Yea, he is scary. Then again being 4-0 by player who isn't even an ace on the last team in GSTL...


Oh god, I forgot about power rank. Innovation will still be ranked #1, but only because it's a joke. Soulkey trashed him, yet they put Innovation #1 over Soulkey.

Whoever wins this tournament should be #1 power rank. And Innovation didn't win.



I don't think just winning the OSL should be enough to get #1 in the PR, especially since the OSL isn't the only thing the PR is counting. If anything, Maru and Bomber would appear somewhere on the list and Rain should be #2 or #3 because of his far run and his results in Proleague, but Innovation is the only candidate to be #1, for now.

Not to make this a PR complaint, but I really don't understand the logic of putting so much weight on a closed tournament in which approximately half of the world's best players can't even participate.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 30 2013 17:26 GMT
#1944
On July 31 2013 01:50 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 01:22 Xpace wrote:
If the best player in the world gets 4-0'd by "cheese", then "cheese" is clearly the ultimate strategy in Starcraft 2, and that makes Starcraft 2 bad.

Sigh TL


Not Maru's fault that Innovation just refused to adapt to what Maru was doing.


Just watching the vods, feels to me more like Maru got game 1 easy with a build order win and wanted to throw in a curve ball and it worked ... so he did another one and so on. Most people do something sneaky in game 2 if they win game 1 in a Bo7 and most of the time it fails, because everyone expects it, just like Innovation expected cloaked proxy banshees in g2.
Innovation was extremely unlucky most of the time.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 30 2013 17:27 GMT
#1945
50 pages during the games, 50 pages afterwards. That tells the story.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
July 30 2013 17:32 GMT
#1946
On July 31 2013 02:24 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 02:16 NapkinBox wrote:
On July 31 2013 01:06 BronzeKnee wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:53 nimdil wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:47 blobrus wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:42 nimdil wrote:
On July 30 2013 22:12 bittman wrote:
On July 30 2013 22:10 nimdil wrote:
On July 30 2013 21:59 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 30 2013 21:57 redviper wrote:
Innovation is really the best player in the world. Lolololololoooool (can't type enough lolz on tur phone).

And still, I bet he will be number on power rank. Mary read him like a book, opened it up and then burned all the pages.

Who is then? Runner-up, winner, Ro4 in the hardest leagues in SC2

I guess no matter who will be #1, the author of the PR will be flamed hard.


Yep. There's no such thing as a power rank that everyone agrees on.

I mean last time probably nobody argued against Innovation being #1 considering he won Season 1 finals etc. But now there will be hot flame just because of #1 spot no matter what.


I mean I know people WILL argue but still, he basically carried his team to the Proleague finals, he's been consistently a top finisher in everything he enters, and he's the favorite in almost every match he plays.

Yea, he is scary. Then again being 4-0 by player who isn't even an ace on the last team in GSTL...


Oh god, I forgot about power rank. Innovation will still be ranked #1, but only because it's a joke. Soulkey trashed him, yet they put Innovation #1 over Soulkey.

Whoever wins this tournament should be #1 power rank. And Innovation didn't win.



I don't think just winning the OSL should be enough to get #1 in the PR, especially since the OSL isn't the only thing the PR is counting. If anything, Maru and Bomber would appear somewhere on the list and Rain should be #2 or #3 because of his far run and his results in Proleague, but Innovation is the only candidate to be #1, for now.

Not to make this a PR complaint, but I really don't understand the logic of putting so much weight on a closed tournament in which approximately half of the world's best players can't even participate.

Minus koreans there are no players who could match the kr challenger league players. WCS KR aka OSL is the highest non-team league atm, so not a surprise at all.
Idk if this loss in the ro4 is enough to move inno to the 2nd place, his TvZ and TvP are too godly imo.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 30 2013 17:40 GMT
#1947
On July 31 2013 02:32 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 02:24 babylon wrote:
On July 31 2013 02:16 NapkinBox wrote:
On July 31 2013 01:06 BronzeKnee wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:53 nimdil wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:47 blobrus wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:42 nimdil wrote:
On July 30 2013 22:12 bittman wrote:
On July 30 2013 22:10 nimdil wrote:
On July 30 2013 21:59 Wombat_NI wrote:
[quote]
Who is then? Runner-up, winner, Ro4 in the hardest leagues in SC2

I guess no matter who will be #1, the author of the PR will be flamed hard.


Yep. There's no such thing as a power rank that everyone agrees on.

I mean last time probably nobody argued against Innovation being #1 considering he won Season 1 finals etc. But now there will be hot flame just because of #1 spot no matter what.


I mean I know people WILL argue but still, he basically carried his team to the Proleague finals, he's been consistently a top finisher in everything he enters, and he's the favorite in almost every match he plays.

Yea, he is scary. Then again being 4-0 by player who isn't even an ace on the last team in GSTL...


Oh god, I forgot about power rank. Innovation will still be ranked #1, but only because it's a joke. Soulkey trashed him, yet they put Innovation #1 over Soulkey.

Whoever wins this tournament should be #1 power rank. And Innovation didn't win.



I don't think just winning the OSL should be enough to get #1 in the PR, especially since the OSL isn't the only thing the PR is counting. If anything, Maru and Bomber would appear somewhere on the list and Rain should be #2 or #3 because of his far run and his results in Proleague, but Innovation is the only candidate to be #1, for now.

Not to make this a PR complaint, but I really don't understand the logic of putting so much weight on a closed tournament in which approximately half of the world's best players can't even participate.

Minus koreans there are no players who could match the kr challenger league players. WCS KR aka OSL is the highest non-team league atm, so not a surprise at all.
Idk if this loss in the ro4 is enough to move inno to the 2nd place, his TvZ and TvP are too godly imo.

Ah, I'm referring to Proleague with this comment, not the OSL.

I'd drop Innovation to #2 at least as long as Rain doesn't get 4-0'd by Bomber (unlikely, and even if he does it's significantly less of an upset than getting 4-0'd by Maru). Maru & Bomber should both creep into the ranking though, regardless of result.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
July 30 2013 17:40 GMT
#1948
WTF happened here. Results got spoiled for me so I haven't watched vods yet. Maru that good?
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 17:42:48
July 30 2013 17:42 GMT
#1949
On July 31 2013 02:32 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 02:24 babylon wrote:
On July 31 2013 02:16 NapkinBox wrote:
On July 31 2013 01:06 BronzeKnee wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:53 nimdil wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:47 blobrus wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:42 nimdil wrote:
On July 30 2013 22:12 bittman wrote:
On July 30 2013 22:10 nimdil wrote:
On July 30 2013 21:59 Wombat_NI wrote:
[quote]
Who is then? Runner-up, winner, Ro4 in the hardest leagues in SC2

I guess no matter who will be #1, the author of the PR will be flamed hard.


Yep. There's no such thing as a power rank that everyone agrees on.

I mean last time probably nobody argued against Innovation being #1 considering he won Season 1 finals etc. But now there will be hot flame just because of #1 spot no matter what.


I mean I know people WILL argue but still, he basically carried his team to the Proleague finals, he's been consistently a top finisher in everything he enters, and he's the favorite in almost every match he plays.

Yea, he is scary. Then again being 4-0 by player who isn't even an ace on the last team in GSTL...


Oh god, I forgot about power rank. Innovation will still be ranked #1, but only because it's a joke. Soulkey trashed him, yet they put Innovation #1 over Soulkey.

Whoever wins this tournament should be #1 power rank. And Innovation didn't win.



I don't think just winning the OSL should be enough to get #1 in the PR, especially since the OSL isn't the only thing the PR is counting. If anything, Maru and Bomber would appear somewhere on the list and Rain should be #2 or #3 because of his far run and his results in Proleague, but Innovation is the only candidate to be #1, for now.

Not to make this a PR complaint, but I really don't understand the logic of putting so much weight on a closed tournament in which approximately half of the world's best players can't even participate.

Minus koreans there are no players who could match the kr challenger league players. WCS KR aka OSL is the highest non-team league atm, so not a surprise at all.
Idk if this loss in the ro4 is enough to move inno to the 2nd place, his TvZ and TvP are too godly imo.


I'm not making the PR, but seeing how they only put Symbol/Roro 5th and 6th as Soulkey/Innovation's predecessors in June, it would only be logical to have those two drop a few ranks as well and install this seasons finalists in the top3.
I mean, in June they brought a lot of arguments to put Innovation>Soulkey. They would need even more of them to put Innovation>Maru after today's games and right before a possible royal road in OSL.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
July 30 2013 17:42 GMT
#1950
just watched the vods... excited to see maru in the finals!
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 17:43:58
July 30 2013 17:42 GMT
#1951
On July 31 2013 02:40 BisuDagger wrote:
WTF happened here. Results got spoiled for me so I haven't watched vods yet. Maru that good?

He basically mind fucked Innovation into 4-0. Plus, Innovation had little to nothing of luck today. Not that I am trying to diminish his accomplishment, cause getting on a nerve of a such an establishment as Innovation is, is a pretty nice feat.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
July 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#1952
Holy s*** Maru.... Crazy ass results! ESF representing.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
July 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#1953
On July 31 2013 01:22 Xpace wrote:
If the best player in the world gets 4-0'd by "cheese", then "cheese" is clearly the ultimate strategy in Starcraft 2, and that makes Starcraft 2 bad.

Sigh TL

Yea, all these newbs been playing standard macro games for no reason, what a waste of time, can't believe it took them 3 years to realize cheese is just better. Oh no wait, it's just Innovation is weak to it.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 30 2013 17:50 GMT
#1954
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!


Maru you magnificent bastard!
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
July 30 2013 17:51 GMT
#1955
are the vods up yet?
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 30 2013 17:51 GMT
#1956
In the meantime, Innovation's TvT record drops to a much less impressive 57%. Doop. The 0-2 and 0-4 to Bomber and Maru hurt like crap.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
July 30 2013 17:52 GMT
#1957
On July 31 2013 02:51 babylon wrote:
In the meantime, Innovation's TvT record drops to a much less impressive 57%. Doop. The 0-2 and 0-4 to Bomber and Maru hurt like crap.


what are his TvZ and TvP still at though?
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 30 2013 17:53 GMT
#1958
On July 31 2013 02:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 02:51 babylon wrote:
In the meantime, Innovation's TvT record drops to a much less impressive 57%. Doop. The 0-2 and 0-4 to Bomber and Maru hurt like crap.


what are his TvZ and TvP still at though?

Well, you know what everyone's been saying for ages: to be the undisputed best player in the world, you need to be great in all three match-ups~
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10078 Posts
July 30 2013 17:55 GMT
#1959
Im happy for Maru, well planned games. Im sad for Innovation cause he couldn adapt to that style (cheesy//agressive).

G1: idk if innovation realized that Maru hadnt got an expansion so the final atack was more than he expected.
G2: Innovation tryed to stay one step ahead but it backfired.
G3: why go CC 1st n anaconda? being this map the most cheesy of the map pool?
G4: what can i say, Innovation overextended and paid the iron price

GL in the finals Maru
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 17:56:15
July 30 2013 17:55 GMT
#1960
On July 31 2013 02:53 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 02:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On July 31 2013 02:51 babylon wrote:
In the meantime, Innovation's TvT record drops to a much less impressive 57%. Doop. The 0-2 and 0-4 to Bomber and Maru hurt like crap.


what are his TvZ and TvP still at though?

Well, you know what everyone's been saying for ages: to be the undisputed best player in the world, you need to be great in all three match-ups~


people say that but looking back most players at their peak of "best player in the world" were always weak in one matchup

p.s. if it's maru v rain, I want maru to win, if it's bomber v maru, I want bomber to win
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
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