As said previously, dont be a greedy ass against someone who has already done 2 all-ins.
Greed = CC first, or not scouting/minimal scouting.

In game 2 he did some weird ass raven first and lost his mine... it was terrible all over.

great, you said exactly what i said in my original post.

as for raven first. it would be safe against almost all tvt openings except the one maru did.

Eufouria

United Kingdom4425 Posts

July 30 2013 10:06 GMT

#1063

On July 30 2013 19:03 Sandermatt wrote:

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Game 1: (I have only seen the end) Banshee opening by maru into 1 base all-in.
Game 2: Proxy Medivacs marine helion elevator by Maru
Game 3: Maru does proxy 2 racks against Innovations CC first.

Thanks. It sounds sort of reminiscient of Polt vs MMA from the super tournament, where MMA was the huge favourite but Polt just executed really nice build orders.

Brian333

657 Posts

July 30 2013 10:06 GMT

#1064

maru needs to change his name to hope torture if what artosis says is true.

Fjodorov

5007 Posts

July 30 2013 10:06 GMT

#1065

On July 30 2013 19:03 tuestresfat wrote:

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i don't really follow the sc2 scene that closely, i'm not cheering for either side. i'm simply aware that innovation is arguably the best player and this is the ro4 of the korean wcs. i was expecting entertaining games, games that show some kind of skill not straight up build order losses that result in a 3-0 because one player is too scared to play a drawn out game.

even if these two were no names these games have been boring as hell.

yeah I suppose you have to atleast know something about the players and the story lines to enjoy these games. Sorry you missed out!

Corrosive

Canada3741 Posts

July 30 2013 10:06 GMT

#1066

On July 30 2013 19:04 Caladan wrote:
Game 3 was completely *NOT* Innovation's fault.
You never never can scout the whole map. He DID scout for cheese. Other than that he played a normal solid build order. "Inno on tilt" etc. is really bs. You can beat literally every player in the world with such a build, one time.

Build order wins ftl...

Ya its his fault when he goes cc first vs someone who just all inned him twice

tymt

Sweden293 Posts

July 30 2013 10:06 GMT

#1067

On July 30 2013 19:04 DidYuhim wrote:
When I come to watch TvT, I expect chess-like strategy-based games. And then the guy just randomly runs in, throws over the board and is given a win.

Should this be considered a win? Well, it's not up to me.
Should this be considered a good game? Hell, no.

People are all over Maru, because he's not Innovation, if it was Flash playing instead of Inno we'd have absolutely different LR thread.

Yes attacking early is about the same as flipping the chess board over and getting a win for it.

digmouse

China6331 Posts

July 30 2013 10:06 GMT

#1068

On July 30 2013 19:05 Vonthin wrote:
Can someone give a recap of the 3 cheeses, I just tuned in

Game 1 one base cloaked banshee followed by a marine tank push
Game 2 Hellion WM drops
Game 3 proxy 2rax vs 15CC

Yello

Germany7411 Posts

July 30 2013 10:06 GMT

#1069

well, if this was Flash winning like this, the LR thread would be worse because you would get even more extrem ends of the spectrum with lots of people praising Flash for "having the best decision making and strategies in the world" and the other half would be extreme Flash haters

Arceus

Vietnam8333 Posts

July 30 2013 10:06 GMT

#1070

On July 30 2013 19:05 Wintex wrote:

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sOs vs SoulKey was a team kill. They are always more odd than you might think. And the games were showcasing blunders that should not be shown in a semi finals of the hardest league in the world. This is just stubbornness and non-scouting from a player that is favored as hell by a majority of people.

yeah does any of that make this a good series? this is a lulz series