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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2801
On July 21 2013 04:34 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.


People will hate on you for this, but I see your point.

Are you trying to tell me that Sergiy Stakhovsky is an overall better tennis player than Federer?
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2802
does sweden give subvention to the dreamhack association or is it just for the events in sweden?
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2803
On July 21 2013 04:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.


Do people actually think like this?


The bad people do.
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2804
On July 21 2013 04:34 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.


People will hate on you for this, but I see your point.



What point?? Not one thing in that post was correct.

Does the better team always win? No.

Did goswser loose because of luck or because he didn't have his greedy gamble pay off?? C'mon...
Livin' this life like it was written.
evergreensc
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2805
On July 21 2013 04:34 tribulator wrote:
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On July 21 2013 04:31 evergreensc wrote:
JD ZvP is like 50%, and StarDust is pretty good.

Probably another 2-1.


TLPD's JvP win percentage does not accurately portray the absolutely deplorable trainwreck that is JvP due to padded stats against extremely weak foreign opponents.


That's exactly what I was saying. Still expecting JD to take a game, but lose the series though.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2806
On July 21 2013 04:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.


Do people actually think like this?


a certain type of person.. the type that doesnt have a well functioning social life
n.Die_Jaedong
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2807
On July 21 2013 04:34 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.

So much pain and anger ROFL

Teams and players give surprises all the time in sports what are you talking about

i wonder if DeathProfessor would say the same thing if Gosuuser went for 3 hatch before pool.... Greed gets punished. if you are not able to defend a highly possible opening why taking such bad risk ?
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 19:37:34
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2808
ahahahashaahsahaaahahaha holy shit they are playing Nena!

Now they stopped
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2809
Ahaha, 99 Luftballons :D
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2810
Nena!!!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46221 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2811
On July 21 2013 04:35 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.


Do people actually think like this?

Don't tell people to ever watch the NBA then. Or the MLB. Or the NFL. Or college football....


Or any sport at all lol
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2812
On July 21 2013 04:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Competition is only fun with the factor of randomness and variability. If the better player on paper always won, there would be close to no point in competition. In StarCraft, having the variable of cheese is what keeps the game from being stale and static.


If anything, you figure out the better player by competition. Without it there would be no metric of who is better or not and no variability in the system.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#2813
On July 21 2013 04:34 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:33 Ammanas wrote:
On July 21 2013 04:32 RiZu wrote:
On July 21 2013 04:32 Packawana wrote:
The age of Innovation is over, the age of Bomber has begun.

It the age of FIRST!


The age of Soulkey, you heard it here first :p

Soulkey's become the new Symbol. He's the best Zerg in the world, but no one notices because "OMG RAIN" or "OMG INNOVATION." It's amusing.

Soulkey IS good. He just doesn't get many good opponents to show off his skill lately, though.

Soulkey is the strongest defensive/reactive Zerg, right now.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 20 2013 19:37 GMT
#2814
On July 21 2013 04:34 j4vz wrote:
One thing to note about JvP, he seems to get in winning position every game but then take bad decision and lose his whole army or make a questionable basetrade...

Its not like hes getting outplayed, I think JvP will be his strongest matchup eventually.


Hehe that's what makes his zvp kinda bad is he plays it good to a point, then he just goes and does one of the worst decisions you could possibly make. I really hope he fixes that problem soon because it's so painful to see him in a game that the only way he wins is if he does x, and then he goes and does it to lose the game T_T.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
July 20 2013 19:37 GMT
#2815
On July 21 2013 04:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.


Do people actually think like this?

No he is probably idra like butthurt diehard fan who can't anticipate mindgames can exist in this level.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Clawfinger
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada221 Posts
July 20 2013 19:37 GMT
#2816
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.


In every sport there is a portion of luck involved. Goswser was incredibly greedy in that final game, and he got punished for it. SC2 needs cheese to make it exciting and diversify the builds. If cheese wasn't viable then the meta-game would stale really fast.
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
July 20 2013 19:37 GMT
#2817
now when games ended 10 minutes before next match up starts they don't have to stick to schedule? it says 9:30... it is always like that with sc2 tournaments and i really hate it..they will have long breaks no matter what

:angry:
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
July 20 2013 19:37 GMT
#2818
JD VS STARDUST GET HYPEEESESADFASDFASDFASDADFGPakifgrlisdfhglh346ioj4621
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
July 20 2013 19:37 GMT
#2819
On July 21 2013 04:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:31 DeathProfessor wrote:
If SC2 was a sport the better player would win every time but its just a game so all you gotta do to win is make like one different building and have no lings where the jerkface 9 pools, yeah some sport, game of pure luck.


Do people actually think like this?

When their favorite gets knocked out many do.
Of course when it happened to YugiOh it was the best display of skill.
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
July 20 2013 19:37 GMT
#2820
On July 21 2013 04:34 Cokefreak wrote:
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On July 21 2013 04:33 HystericaLaughter wrote:
On July 21 2013 04:32 Ventris wrote:
Movits <3


Can someone link me to some of this guys music? He's not bad and I would like to check out the rest of it

Too lazy to type Movits into google? :D


... Yes.

No but really I didn't know who he was but thanks he's actually all over youtube.
My wife for hire! - Zealot
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