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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
July 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#541
I love casters "strategies" ^^ Keep em coming Apollo!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#542
The trick to beating Apollo's proxy is to just roach speedling bust him. That's what I did.
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ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
July 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#543
MIND GAMES from apollo and kaelaris
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#544
On July 17 2013 03:44 Greendotz wrote:
a three week break between the RO32 and RO16? Why so long?


Summer holidays maybe.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
July 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#545
On July 17 2013 03:45 packrat386 wrote:
how has it been going so far? missed the first few games.
Most of grubby's games were nice.
Havent seen the first series though.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
July 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#546
Now we know why Apolo is casting instead playing.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 18:49:12
July 16 2013 18:47 GMT
#547
On July 17 2013 03:38 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 03:29 Crownlol wrote:
On July 17 2013 03:06 stuchiu wrote:
On July 17 2013 03:03 Crownlol wrote:
On July 17 2013 02:59 stuchiu wrote:
On July 17 2013 02:56 Zheryn wrote:
On July 17 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
So how is Grubby's PvZ? I haven't seen it in a while.


It's pretty good but I don't believe he'll be able to win against Vortix tbh. Grubby did look kinda shaky in his PvT which he apparently had said was even better than his PvZ now.


In that case I recommend one of these solutions:

Soul Train
Soul Plane
Seed Max out
Inca Special
Huk YOLO
Triple Double
Anypro Anytime
Choya Gate
Stardust Bust
Naniwa's Double Dare
The Warp Prism Delivery



Soul Plane?
Inca Special?
Anypro Anytime?
Pretty sure NaNiwa's build is the proxy Immortal bust...


Yeah, please elaborate on these strats :-P I love strats with stupid names. I'll trade you some WoW 3s comp names


Soul Plane is mass Void rays ala Alicia/Crank.
Inca Special means making dts.
Anypro Anytime was the build back during early 2011 PvZ before the infestor buff. It went out of fashion, but has recently come back in the last month. It is a 2 base 7 gate blink stalker with +1 and obs attack.
Naniwa's Double Dare is proxy double gate.

I don't include Naniwa's Immortal zealot bust since a lot of different players have a claim to it and none of them have really used it to win a tourney.


As promised, but not requested:

TSG - Warrior/DK/Hpally
KFC - Warrior/Hunter/Rshaman
Thug Cleave - Rogue/Hunter/Dpriest
Cleave - Warrior/Rogue/Rdruid
Cleave(2) - Warrior/Retpal/Rsham
Wizardcleave - Elesham/Destrolock/Hpal
Shadowcleave - Dk/Spriest/Rsham
Neverlose - Dk/Lock/Rsham
LSD - Aff lock/Ele sham/ Rdruid
LSD2.0 - Aff lock/ Resto sham/ moonkin druid
Shadowplay - Spriest/Afflock/Rsham
Shatterplay - Spiest/Fmage/Rsham
Shattreeplay - Spriest/Fmage/Rdruid
Origami Comp - Firemage/Afflock/Dpriest
Menstrual Cleave - Warrior/Feral Druid/Hpal
Jungle Cleave - Hunter/Feral druid/Rsham
Holyplay - Ret pal/Dpriest/Rdru
Beastcleave - Enh sham/BM hunter/Hpal
Zoocleave - BM hunter/Demolock/Rsham
Stealthcleave - Feral druid/Rogue/Rdruid
Mancleave - Warrior/Warrior/Hpal
Boring Cleave - DK/doublehealer
Coldplay - Frost Dk/ Frostmage/ Discpriest

2345 - Warrior/Rogue/Ele/Disc/Rdruid
2346 - Warrior/Rogue/Lock/Disc/Rdruid
2347 - Warrior/Rogue/Mage/Disc/Rdruid
Eurocomp - Rogue/Mage/Lock/Disc/Rdruid





Why is cleave so prevalent.



That requires some history, but adding "cleave" was done as a derogatory measure, similar to labeling something "cheese".

The early meta established that a "proper" composition was one melee, one caster, and one healer. Later, the original "cleave" was created around the Warrior ability of the same name (which allowed them to hit two targets for a short amount of time), and the first two comps to be played with doublemelee were the two named Cleave above. This was seen as "cheese" almost, because simply rushing down your opponents with two melees is easier to play than to slowly pick them apart with a "balanced" comp, such as the early strong comps of RMP (Rogue Mage Priest) and WLD (Warrior Lock Druid).

Later, comps were often named by people who *LOST* to a comp, as opposed to being named by those who created it. Exceptions are things like Shadowplay, which takes a great deal of skill to play, and TSG, which was named by the eSports team of the same name. Calling something a "cleave" is intended to insinuate that you lost to something dumb and cheesy, rather than being outplayed. Saying "ugh, I just lost to some dumb cleave" is similar to saying "ugh, I just lost to a 6pool".

Later, people adopted the "cleave" title with pride as a sort of middle finger to the haters (similar to labeling a "cheesy rush" an "aggressive all-in").
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 16 2013 18:47 GMT
#548
HUK yOLO HERE WE GO
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SinTio
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany871 Posts
July 16 2013 18:47 GMT
#549
Wow he butchered Grubbys lastname there :D
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 16 2013 18:48 GMT
#550
LOL did he just call Grubby Scheißenhausen
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
July 16 2013 18:48 GMT
#551
On July 17 2013 03:45 packrat386 wrote:
how has it been going so far? missed the first few games.


Great games so far! (At least the ones I've watched). Missed the first series, only got the last bit of the second series but the LR thread was going nuts for Grubby's storms during that which was awesome.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
July 16 2013 18:48 GMT
#552
did he just say MR. scheißenhausen? what mean like shithouse XD?
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 16 2013 18:49 GMT
#553
haha yeah he did
Terran & Potato Salad.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
July 16 2013 18:49 GMT
#554
Grubby didn't look like Grubby today
hundred thousand krouner
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
July 16 2013 18:50 GMT
#555
Sad game.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 16 2013 18:50 GMT
#556
HUK YOLO INTO INCA SPECIAL, GRUBBY REVOLUTIONIZING PVZ!
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 16 2013 18:50 GMT
#557
Aaaand Dark Shrine.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
July 16 2013 18:50 GMT
#558
When behind.........
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 16 2013 18:50 GMT
#559
when behind summon inca
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18412 Posts
July 16 2013 18:50 GMT
#560
do gateways all in work even?

imo its the worst 2 base all in you can do as protoss
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