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On July 18 2013 21:11 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:10 turdburgler wrote: so considering the shit storm that got kicked up when 2 korean players fixed a game that barely mattered 18 months ago, whats going to be done with SKT clearly fixing this match now? Where is your evidence? This talk is really obnoxious, we'll never know what happened; it's pure speculation either way, so can't we just be done with this? Feel for you man, itll be like talking to brick walls...
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On July 18 2013 21:12 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:10 covetousrat wrote:On July 18 2013 21:09 Patchouli wrote: OK, I'll come back in ~15 mins for the tiebreakers. Tiebreakers today? Yeah after this match. Well that makes watching this pointless series ok.
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Will they draw the Ro8 matches after the tiebreakers as well?
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Belgica34432 Posts
Meh, I know the first game looked like a throw (going 3 cc after scouting robo and gates and trying to be denied hard by Rain), but can't we give Fanta the benefit of the doubt? I mean maybe he really misread the timing.
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On July 18 2013 21:13 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:11 opterown wrote:On July 18 2013 21:11 Qikz wrote: Why are people saying Fantasy would throw this game? I know Rain was the last OSL champion, well the first for SC2 anyways but Fantasy has so much history with the OSL that he probably wants to win more than anyone else and I'm not even joking with that. He's won one but got Silver in the last two and there's no way he'd just forget that to piggy back Rain into the Ro8 even if Rain is his teammate. but fanta is already out I still feel disgusted that people think SKT would match fix. Fantasy may be out already but there's no way he's going to match fix. If he loses he loses. He's not as good at SC2 as Rain anyways. The thing is rain said that fantasy destroys him in practice and he is afraid of fantasy.Things are complicated
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On July 18 2013 21:14 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:14 Tobblish wrote:Is Fantasy using eye drops because thats some very shiny eyes.. + Show Spoiler +Watching via mobile and for me it looked like he was crying. He was absolutely stunned that he lost that game
He looked pretty shaky before the first game too.
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On July 18 2013 21:15 Talionis wrote: Will they draw the Ro8 matches after the tiebreakers as well?
Aren't the Ro8 already sorted? People were talking about Innovation vs Soulkey.
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On July 18 2013 21:13 Kettchup wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:12 PredY wrote: what did you expect? of course fantasy is gonna let rain win. doesnt mean its match fixing It's a position they never should have been put in to begin with. This match needed to be played first.
End of discussion.
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On July 18 2013 21:14 AgentW wrote:Can I bring this to the thread's attention? (1847) Rain 0-0 FanTaSy (1411) ------------------------------------------- 46.98% 2-0 0-2 9.89% 29.56% 2-1 1-2 13.56% ------------------------------------------- 76.54% 23.46%
Median outcome: Rain 2-1 FanTaSy Estimated by Aligulac. Modify. No. Rationality isn't allowed here.
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Lol there's no rule saying a player has to try when he's already eliminated.
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On July 18 2013 21:10 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:09 Douillos wrote: This is like watching world wrestling, you know whats gonna happen, but it's still cool :D
Need Macho Man Banter, and need it fast! OHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAH MEAN GENE, THE MACHO MAAAAAAAAAAN, is goin to TOOOOOOOWN. Its too hard to whisper and shout randomly like Macho Man does 
i wanna hear the korean version... just replace the words macho man with rain, "going to town" with "GEEGEE" and all the rest (and insert some additional) with "AAAAAAAH!"
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On July 18 2013 21:16 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:15 Talionis wrote: Will they draw the Ro8 matches after the tiebreakers as well? Aren't the Ro8 already sorted? People were talking about Innovation vs Soulkey.
OSL is always random draw
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On July 18 2013 21:16 BackSideAttack wrote: Lol there's no rule saying a player has to try when he's already eliminated.
Naniwa begs to differ
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On July 18 2013 21:14 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:13 Qikz wrote:On July 18 2013 21:11 opterown wrote:On July 18 2013 21:11 Qikz wrote: Why are people saying Fantasy would throw this game? I know Rain was the last OSL champion, well the first for SC2 anyways but Fantasy has so much history with the OSL that he probably wants to win more than anyone else and I'm not even joking with that. He's won one but got Silver in the last two and there's no way he'd just forget that to piggy back Rain into the Ro8 even if Rain is his teammate. but fanta is already out I still feel disgusted that people think SKT would match fix. Fantasy may be out already but there's no way he's going to match fix. If he loses he loses. He's not as good at SC2 as Rain anyways. maybe he won't be throwing but he definitely could have ... forgotten to prepare
Why would he prepare for a match that has no significance for him. There are better ways for him to spend time, such as practicing a bad matchup, helping out teammates, resting before next season, or kicking himself for losing us the playoffs.
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On July 18 2013 21:15 ShroudeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:13 Qikz wrote:On July 18 2013 21:11 opterown wrote:On July 18 2013 21:11 Qikz wrote: Why are people saying Fantasy would throw this game? I know Rain was the last OSL champion, well the first for SC2 anyways but Fantasy has so much history with the OSL that he probably wants to win more than anyone else and I'm not even joking with that. He's won one but got Silver in the last two and there's no way he'd just forget that to piggy back Rain into the Ro8 even if Rain is his teammate. but fanta is already out I still feel disgusted that people think SKT would match fix. Fantasy may be out already but there's no way he's going to match fix. If he loses he loses. He's not as good at SC2 as Rain anyways. The thing is rain said that fantasy destroys him in practice and he is afraid of fantasy.Things are complicated
Fantasy destroys a lot of people in practice but on stage he loses a lot. It's an entirely different situation.
As said, this match should have started the group.
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On July 18 2013 21:16 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:14 AgentW wrote:Can I bring this to the thread's attention? (1847) Rain 0-0 FanTaSy (1411) ------------------------------------------- 46.98% 2-0 0-2 9.89% 29.56% 2-1 1-2 13.56% ------------------------------------------- 76.54% 23.46%
Median outcome: Rain 2-1 FanTaSy Estimated by Aligulac. Modify. No. Rationality isn't allowed here. But I'm one of the people who's saying Fantasy has no motivation to win and is probably letting Rain win but not overtly by not practicing as hard as he normally would?
Holy run on sentence Batman.
On July 18 2013 21:17 Waxangel wrote: yeah this is seriously such a bad position for fantasy. he's hugely not-favored against Rain, totally capable of making really bad mistakes to lose games in awful ways, but he's still going to be accused of throwing if he loses D: This. Rain is absolutely the better player and Fantasy's not good in TvP.
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United States33529 Posts
yeah this is seriously such a bad position for fantasy. he's hugely not-favored against Rain, totally capable of making really bad mistakes to lose games in awful ways, but he's still going to be accused of throwing if he loses D:
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On July 18 2013 21:13 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 21:12 PredY wrote: what did you expect? of course fantasy is gonna let rain win. doesnt mean its match fixing Isn't that match fixing? it may be or may not. if they arranged what the match would look like, practised it etc they yeah i guess. but if fantasy just didnt care and didnt prepare and rain practised for it like he normally would, then no.
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